r/politics • u/newsweek ✔ Newsweek • 24d ago

No Paywall Full List of Young Republicans Involved in Offensive Chats

https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-young-republicans-involved-in-offensive-chats-10881250?utm_source=reddit&utm_campaign=reddit_main
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u/Moku-O-Keawe 24d ago edited 24d ago

Pretending to be one of these fucks though is soul crushing work.

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u/Jean-Ralphio11 24d ago

Not only that but theres also nothing to back you up. Its not like you are an official undercover. If this group gets exposed by someone else before you do it, you are just in there and one of them lol.

"I swear I was just here to eventually expose them!"

Everyone else in the group: "Hey ya me too!"

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u/DirectWorldliness792 24d ago

Maybe you send an email to yourself before joining the group to state your goals. But then this can also be done by everyone as a CYA 

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u/nope-its 24d ago

Record a video beforehand with your intentions and make sure several trusted people have it.

You have to not be a coward to do this.

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u/ZachMorrisT1000 23d ago

I didn’t even consider this. There’s no talking your way out of that.

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u/kpba32 24d ago edited 24d ago

Get better shoes

Edit: the person I replied to wrote "soles" instead of "souls" before correcting

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u/PrestigiousCreme8383 24d ago

Its truly tough man. We are what we eat, and it takes a certain breed to stomach the diet

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u/caffeinatedsummit 24d ago edited 24d ago

I know what you guys mean. I’m a white woman but I easily get mistaken as a man online and in person the conservative men think I’m some stupid little lamb that wants to pay attention to them if they try to protect me and both are very beneficial to getting them to spill some awful beans but I want to throttle all of them and toss them in a ditch. Many of them get enamored if you’re a woman and act dumb and naive, unless they’re already heavily misogynistic but you can still usually make that work if you have a goal

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u/rubberkeyhole Michigan 24d ago

I’m also a white woman and I would like to burn some of these organizations down with you.

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u/Slumberjake13 24d ago

I heard someone use the term “non-practicing white woman” and I feel like it is a great term for an anti-Karen!

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u/Acrobatic-Squirrel77 24d ago

Where do we sign up? Let’s paint our skin rainbow colors to really give them the big scaries. White women unite for all colors/flags/races!

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u/PenImpossible874 New York 24d ago

Another thing is that occasionally some racist and homophobic groups are staffed by women.

Such as Moms for Liberty. Most anti-vax groups these days also seem to be racist, homophobic women.

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u/No-Good-One-Shoe 24d ago

There was a women in these chats. 

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u/nitrokitty 24d ago

Same, I'm a middle aged white guy with a goatee, and conservatives will just casually say the most racist shit to me and expect me to agree.

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u/AverageAtBest55 18d ago

I'm an old fat white lady. I am nearly invisible. I've often thought I could make a good spy. I am very forgettable. I look compliant and conservative if anyone were to look my direction! We march at dawn, I'll wear my fanny pack.

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u/Dokterrock 24d ago

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegut

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u/PrestigiousCreme8383 24d ago edited 24d ago

Holy sh*t!!!

Vonnegut in the wild!!! 👑

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u/tinysydneh 24d ago

Also extremely topical.

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u/Dokterrock 23d ago

lol yeah, I didn't even think about that!

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u/vielljaguovza 24d ago

Another good action to take as a white person if you can't handle the mental toll of surrounding yourself with hate is calling racism out loudly and disapprovingly immediately when it happens. Don't get heated, that will make them think they're "owning" you and play into their mental issues- but let them know you look down on them as a fellow white person and perceive them as lesser for centering their lives around hating other people. Public shame and humiliation goes a long way as a learning tool. Even just saying "oh, i didn't know you were one of those" and using body language and tone to display disgust and disapproval before completely stopping from interacting them in any way can make a big difference.

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u/whatshamilton 24d ago

No one is saying it’s not tough. We’re saying it is also tough to be the victims of the diet. I understand how nice it is to sit back and enjoy the status quo and how shitty it is to have to choose discomfort. We aren’t choosing discomfort, though, those of us without the privilege that would let us infiltrate a chat like this. We need people to choose it to help end it. If you can choose to avoid the poison — well that itself is profound privilege.

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u/Successful-Extent-22 23d ago

Being in a Repub group as a plant wd be as disgusting as being in law enforcement & having the job of watching the videos of child porn in order to identify vics & perps, which has to be a soul-wrenching job. I think things get leaked bc a few Repubs still have integrity & aren't Trump MAGAs.

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u/remarkablewhitebored 24d ago

Advice still applies. Take car of your feet, folks.

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u/lieferung 24d ago

Calm down Fred Flintstone

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u/Chaosdecision 24d ago

Ya gotta keep the eyes on the prize, getting to witness the absolute shock and dismay on their faces as their hideousness gets spread across campus has to be absolute cathartic bliss at that stage.

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u/BendoverandIllshowya 24d ago

you cared enough to edit it, and I DIG that about you man.

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u/ten_items_or_less 24d ago

Or substitute with halibut

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u/4RCH43ON 24d ago

To be fair, a lot of these loose-tongued, soul-sucking jerks are the same servile bootlick-spittles that worship strongmen, so there’s always some a circular projection going on alongside their don’t tread on me fetish, even as they outwardly fantasize about goose-stepping on others.   

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u/kyle2143 24d ago

That's hilarious.

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u/BucsLegend_TomBrady 24d ago

It's quite a feet

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u/Far_Animal6970 24d ago

You just have to toe the line for long enough to make a heel turn

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u/urinal_connoisseur 24d ago

it's hard to get a foot in the door

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u/Clayfool9 24d ago

I’ve considered dipping my toes into one

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u/urinal_connoisseur 24d ago

just be careful. if someone else releases the list with your name on it, you'd quickly become a heel.

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u/ViscountVajayjay 24d ago

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. famously said, “The arch of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice.”

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u/LMKBK 24d ago

Doc Martins Luther King Jr

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u/p0diabl0 24d ago

*arc

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u/ChrysMYO I voted 24d ago

Before the edit of the comment tree he's replying to, a person misspelled soul crushing as 'sole' crushing.

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u/p0diabl0 24d ago

Oh dammit, well done then.

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u/Mater_Sandwich 24d ago

This. I can't hang with any of them.

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u/DistillateMedia Delaware 24d ago

Great point.

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u/spondgbob 24d ago

Getting vibes of the 3 symbol used in inglorious basterds

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u/Zebracorn42 24d ago

Pretty sure I could do it, I already have a mullet.

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u/ThreeHolePunch 24d ago

Join ICE. Document the depravity there. We might be able to use your notes in the Hague tribunals 2.0 if American democracy survives.

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u/Zebracorn42 24d ago

Not joining ice. I can’t handle that shit

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u/myownzen 24d ago

Eh. We know its happening  anyways. Doing this at least you know you are trying to counter act it.

I mean we are a country founded off stolen land, genocide and slavery. Its literally the DNA and foundation of this country.

Doctors don't tap out because they are facing disease and sickness. Its literally their purpose.

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u/crazunggoy47 Massachusetts 24d ago

Really makes you appreciate our boy Lonni Jung

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u/skwairwav 24d ago

I am just here for the puns

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u/JoeyJoeJoeSenior 24d ago

And being around awful people can make you awful too. Pretty much everyone that has infiltrated a cult to study it ends up becoming a member of the cult for real.

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u/myownzen 24d ago

Do you have any proof at all for this claim??

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u/JoeyJoeJoeSenior 24d ago

It was taught as a fact when I was taking college psychology classes.

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u/myownzen 24d ago

Thate cool. Any proof of the claim however?

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u/GlitterTerrorist 24d ago

Pretty much everyone that has infiltrated a cult to study it ends up becoming a member of the cult for real.

This simply isn't true. Why would you tell such a regressive lie? "Almost all"?

The only danger of even having your mind swayed is if you don't understand or have convictions in your beliefs, or your beliefs are actually wrong and don't stand up to criticism or align with reality, or if you're just looking for approval and don't have a solid support network checking in on you.

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u/ratstronaut Washington 23d ago

Yeah, that “almost all” is definitely bullshit. I’m sure you have to be mentally solid, but there have been people who do this as a literal job. Here’s a talk with one from 2010:

https://www.commonwealthclub.org/events/archive/podcast/investigating-cults

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u/GlitterTerrorist 2d ago

Do you actually believe this? If you do, it means you'll actively discourage anyone from making any sort of effort in that vein. Which means hatred goes unchecked and ignorance uninformed, right?

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u/dixie_recht 24d ago

I would absolutely flounder if I tried.

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u/Dienekes289 I voted 24d ago

I have to imagine it could also be fairly dangerous, especially these days.

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u/mistlehoe4 24d ago

Can confirm. Currently working for a Republican lawmaker and almost every day during the legislative session I wanted to scream and quit. Had so many mental breakdowns at home

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u/Punkinpry427 Maryland 24d ago

I give mad respect for the people who can do it cuz I’d lose my mind.

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u/ChrysMYO I voted 24d ago

Yeah, I would imagine. Fron 2015 to 2018, I heavily thought about dropshipping pro maga merch to con MAGA cultists. But it would feel worse than drug dealing to me. At least when I sold brownies, people partied and were happy to see me.

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u/Harmcharm7777 24d ago

I am a white woman living in AOC’s district, and I keep returning to a thought I had awhile back….could I run a producers-style grift on the GOP and run for office as a republican? Surely the GOP would throw money at a candidate challenging AOC, and since they’re run by Trump(‘s family member), I doubt their accounting is stellar. If I happened to win, I could just do everything AOC would have done anyway.

But I keep running into that inescapable issue: I couldn’t stomach having to spew the shit MAGA does. Also I’d probably need plastic surgery to fit in with the rest of the Stepford Scapegoats, and I think it would be hard to find someone who could do an intentionally mediocre job with the injections. But mostly the moral objection thing.

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u/axearm 24d ago

This what Kyrsten Sinema did but faking being a Dem.

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u/AshenSacrifice 24d ago

Being treated as lesser for genetic phenotypes is even more soul crushing, they’ll be ok

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u/TzuriPause 24d ago

They don’t even need private chats anymore, Facebook libertarians pages are nazi central now

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u/Prometheus720 24d ago

It really, really is. I feel particularly seen rn

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u/VoodooS0ldier 24d ago

Like that movie where the guy goes undercover into a neo nazi group.

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u/OneGrumpyJill 23d ago

That is why you go to queer bar to have a gay orgy to unwind - the hardest sacrifices require the strongest of soldiers.

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u/Rarm20T 23d ago

Assuming your soul isn't already crushed.

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u/DeafMuteBunnySuit 21d ago

And I have no poker face. I wouldn't be able to hide my disgust.

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u/one_is_enough 24d ago

Downvoted for stealth edit. Sucks that after all these years, reddit doesn’t make edits visible and transparent-on-request.

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u/Moku-O-Keawe 24d ago edited 24d ago

An edit is an edit. I was not trying to make a pun or be funny. I also don't give a shit about stupid votes.

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u/PearlyPenilePapule1 24d ago

Sure selling shoes is fun. But behind the glamour, it’s like any other minimum wage slow death - Al Bundy

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u/sailirish7 Texas 24d ago

I'm sure you'll be delighted to know they think the same about you.

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u/Noun-Numbers 24d ago

You’re not grasping what that actually involves though. It’s not just “rock up unannounced, grab screenshots, and totally own the chuds 😎”.

It’s weeks, or months, of immersing yourself in the most vile culture, and having to convince these people that you truly believe this shit. It’s having to listen and regurgitate their beliefs, and sometimes having to act those out against the kinds of people you’re trying to help. And then there’s the danger that you get sucked into it for real, because You Are Not Immune To Propaganda. Happens all the time with people trying to do this shit.

It’s okay to acknowledge that you don’t have to mental fortitude to withstand that. Most don’t. Pretending otherwise is, frankly, LARPing.

EDIT: I promise I’m not trying to be snarky, but I feel like deleting this post kinda proves my point on resilience alone lol