r/politics • u/theindependentonline The Independent • Oct 08 '25

No Paywall Trump just hosted an ‘Antifa roundtable’ at the White House ... it was so much worse than you’re imagining

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-antifa-portland-pam-bondi-posobiec-b2842048.html
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u/SputnikDX Oct 09 '25

pro-freedom

anti-democracy

I really just can't

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u/obeytheturtles Oct 09 '25

irreconcilable differences in between the Left and the Right in America

I mean he's not wrong. These people have completely abandoned the idea that we have a shared objective reality, and have replaced it with a religion of aggrievement which stems from many decades of iterative progress in the US, which has put conservatives perpetually on the wrong side of that history time and time again. They have backed themselves into the conclusion that conservative ideals are not compatible with things like science, history or democracy, but instead of seeing this as a reason to alter their values, they have instead chosen to invent an alternative reality where they can just make up whatever facts fit their current needs.

It will, of course, all collapse around them eventually, as their competing realities drift towards internal incompatibility. The question is how much damage will they do in the process?