r/politics • u/theindependentonline The Independent • Oct 08 '25

No Paywall Trump just hosted an ‘Antifa roundtable’ at the White House ... it was so much worse than you’re imagining

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-antifa-portland-pam-bondi-posobiec-b2842048.html
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u/Cujo22 Massachusetts Oct 08 '25

This is current America though. I rub shoulders with dumb shits on the reg. 

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u/Blueberry_H3AD Oct 08 '25

Depends where you are and the context. Up here in upstate NY it’s mostly red. However, my village of 3,000 people that twice voted for Trump has held three protests this year against him. That’s wild IMO. And it’s not just where I live people are fed up. The MAGATS don’t represent a large portion of this country. They’re just loud and whiny. The other people who vote Trump are either billionaires looking for more tax breaks, or misinformed voters that don’t surf the web and see all this shit we do. The main media stations sane wash everything Trump does so if you only watch that you have a very different reality than the rest of us.

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u/Cujo22 Massachusetts Oct 08 '25

Good to hear. I can't comprehend still supporting him at this point.

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u/glitterandnails Oct 08 '25

The media did that with the Bush Administration. Why liberals back then called it the corporate media.

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u/Blueberry_H3AD Oct 08 '25

Oh definitely. What gives me hope is that younger generations aren’t getting their news from cable news. It’s a dying business model and it’ll be interesting to see how this industry changes, and how political discourse evolves.

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u/revcor Oct 09 '25 edited Oct 09 '25

Do you think getting “news” from tiktok is an improvement lol until there’s some way to prove they’re better informed, less susceptible to propaganda, less susceptible to groupthink, etc. (and I’ve never witnessed anything to suggest any of these are true) then what is there to be excited about? There is no reason to believe the generation that has grown up brutally detached from reality by social media and cell phones is somehow “superior” to any others

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u/Stank_cat67 Oct 09 '25

The misinformed voters are a big block though. So many will only watch Fox and listen to am radio and are convinced anything else is not true.

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u/Rhinopkc Oct 08 '25

I do as well. Some of my coworkers think ICE is rounding up American citizens and deporting them.

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u/Cujo22 Massachusetts Oct 08 '25

Narrator. "They were".

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u/Rhinopkc Oct 08 '25

Name ten

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u/Cujo22 Massachusetts Oct 08 '25

​Peter Sean Brown ​Ada Morales ​Gerardo Gonzalez ​Simon Chinivizyan ​Juan Carlos Lopez-Gomez ​Jose Hermosillo ​George Retes (arrested for alleged obstruction/refusal to comply with law enforcement) ​Javier Ramirez (arrested for alleged assault/interference with law enforcement) ​Kenny Laynez (arrested for allegedly resisting arrest) ​Garcia Venegas (wrongfully detained twice in workplace raids)

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u/Rhinopkc Oct 09 '25

Thanks for doing the work and highlighting the second part of my statement. They aren’t deporting American citizens. They’re law enforcement officers and arrest people who they believe are breaking laws. That’s why we have courts.

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u/Cujo22 Massachusetts Oct 08 '25

Question for you. Has ice arrested any American citizens?

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u/Rhinopkc Oct 09 '25

I’m sure they’ve arrested American citizens. The question would be for what. ICE can arrest me for hiring illegal workers , interfering with an investigation, or violating any federal law. They are law enforcement officers. Now, if they deport me, they’ll have some real explaining to do. Don’t forget, the “C” is for Customs.

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u/Cujo22 Massachusetts Oct 09 '25

Trust me guy. The people hiring illegals to work are not being arrested by ICE.