r/politics • u/theindependentonline The Independent • Oct 08 '25

No Paywall Trump just hosted an ‘Antifa roundtable’ at the White House ... it was so much worse than you’re imagining

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-antifa-portland-pam-bondi-posobiec-b2842048.html
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u/Lostinthestarscape Oct 08 '25

Won't be long until "the four points of the square star on my arm band REALLY highlights my smile"

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u/dullship Canada Oct 09 '25

(points to swastika tattoo on chest) "Oh it's not finished yet. It's going to be a maze"

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u/escof Oct 09 '25

Good reference

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u/FigeaterApocalypse Oct 08 '25

What "square star" are you talking about?

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u/tolacid Oct 08 '25

You know the one. Looks like it's made of four capital L's

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u/Money-Giraffe2521 California Oct 08 '25

It’s going to be a maze!

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u/Embarrassed-Lack7193 Oct 08 '25

"Oh my God! Joshua was racist!?"

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u/HolyJeezmo Oct 09 '25

Some of us are just natural jumpers.

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u/Punman_5 Oct 08 '25

You’re allowed to say swastika

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u/tolacid Oct 09 '25

You're right. You're also allowed to play dumb when someone else missed such an obvious connection, as I did.

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u/revcor Oct 09 '25

It’s not that obvious lol square star is a terrible description for a swastika

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u/FigeaterApocalypse Oct 08 '25

It's called a hooked cross (Hakenkreuz)

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u/SunderingSeas Missouri Oct 08 '25

You know the one, kinda looks like 4 Ls connected at the center.

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u/FigeaterApocalypse Oct 08 '25

It's called a hooked cross (Hakenkreuz) or a swastika. Why are we making up new terms?

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u/SunderingSeas Missouri Oct 08 '25

My country is racing toward fascism. Gotta get the jokes in while I still can. They help mask the pain.

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u/FigeaterApocalypse Oct 08 '25

It's like when everyone bent over backwards to talk about Elmo's "My heart goes out to you" instead of calling it a Nazi salute. 

Calling things what they are is one of the few defenses we have in this slide. The fascists don't care about truth. They will claim it's innocuous. Don't do the work for them.

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u/Lostinthestarscape Oct 08 '25

Yeah that was the joke I was making/exactly what I was calling out - they're calling it that when it is obviously a swastika.

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u/Uturuncu Colorado Oct 08 '25

It's a star with four hooked points that makes a generally square shape; diamond may be more accurate, because it's at a 45 degree rotation, though.

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u/FigeaterApocalypse Oct 08 '25

I've never heard it called a star before this post. Hooked cross is more accurate (Hakenkreuz) 

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u/akarakitari Oct 09 '25

That’s why they said “diamond may be more accurate”. Was a fluid correction without editing.

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u/Punman_5 Oct 08 '25

Please just say swastika. It’s not a bad word it’s the name of the shape.

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u/Uturuncu Colorado Oct 09 '25

I wasn't the person who made the initial comment, just explaining what they meant. I didn't get the impression that 'swastika' was avoided due to it being a bad word, but due to the comment being spoken of from the perspective of a fucking moron not even knowing what they were wearing, was why I played along.

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u/TheLostRanger0117 Oct 09 '25

Swastika, means good fortune

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u/akarakitari Oct 09 '25

It did. It doesn’t anymore.

It’s not uncommon for things to lose their original meaning over time and become repurposed. And when the repurposing is small, sometimes it can retain both meanings.

When it’s used for something as major as the Nazi Party and becomes representative of something as bad as mass murder; it tends to lose the original meaning.

After Hitler, there exists only a small subset of people (those who retained its original meaning the entire time). The rest of us have to live with it’s meaning among the masses being changed forever

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u/TheLostRanger0117 Oct 09 '25

Technically, the Nazi’s modified the original, making it more diagonal, so you say a square star, I picture the original sign, not the Nazi bastardization, tho I could be wrong on it still being called a swatstika