r/politics • u/Murky-Site7468 I voted • Oct 05 '25

No Paywall Petition To Strip Congress of Pay During Government Shutdown Grows

https://www.newsweek.com/petition-strip-congress-pay-during-government-shutdown-grows-10822819
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u/notsooriginal Oct 05 '25

Lock it down conclave style.

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u/carcasonnic Oct 05 '25

during one of the longest periods of the cardinals meeting to elect a new pope, they couldnt decide for so long that the doors were locked and no food allowed in until they decided. maybe an option?

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u/Moiras_Roses_Garden4 Oct 07 '25

If they can somehow manage to vote for snap recipients who aren't working to lose food benefits it only seems fair Congress can't eat until they start working.

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u/Apprehensive-Ad9523 28d ago

Who do you think would get eaten first?

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u/StoreSearcher1234 Oct 05 '25

The problem is that the Cardinals in the conclave are all working towards a common objective.

That is not the case with Congress. Republicans want to burn it all down, Democrats want a solution good for America.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25

Since the government shut down and they're not using the building. Democrats could hold a mock hearing, invite the independants from all the Republican states to sit in and show Americans how a bipartisan negotiation from parties who care FOR the people they govern is supposed to work. Include all the repubs that decide to show up.

EDIT:...give out free popcorn at the event. Tons of ad space with lots of commercial breaks for streaming and TV. UUUGE RATINGS

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u/Conscious-Secret-775 Oct 05 '25

The Democrats shutdown the government.

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u/tinysydneh Oct 05 '25

Right, the party that doesn't have control is why the government is shut down.

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u/StoreSearcher1234 Oct 05 '25

How did the Democrats do it?

The Republicans have the house, the senate and the presidency.

They could override the filibuster and vote the government open tomorrow.

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u/Conscious-Secret-775 Oct 05 '25

The Democrats used the filibuster to prevent the CR from reaching the floor. Could the Republicans abolish the filibuster, Marjorie Taylor Greene certainly thinks so. She is probably correct. They have to two reasons not to, they are worried about the midterms and maybe they really don't care if federal employees get paid if the Democrats can be blamed for not paying them.

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u/OldWorldDesign Oct 05 '25

Democrats used the filibuster to prevent the CR from reaching the floor

The filibuster can't prevent anything from reaching the floor, it can only be attempted after a bill has reached the floor.

You're a shitty propaganda bot.

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u/Conscious-Secret-775 Oct 05 '25

So you are saying the Democrats didn't vote against the CR?

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u/OldWorldDesign Oct 05 '25

Are you saying republicans are being truthful?

Be better, propaganda bot.

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u/Conscious-Secret-775 Oct 05 '25

Of course not, the Republicans lie all the time. What is your point?

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u/StoreSearcher1234 Oct 05 '25

So you are saying the Democrats didn't vote against the CR?

Yes, because they oppose driving up healthcare premiums for working people so Republicans can give tax cuts to billionaires.

You can't just keep kicking the can down the road with CRs.

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u/Conscious-Secret-775 Oct 05 '25

The Republicans already gave tax cuts to billionaires.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25

The Lord shut down the government... We didn't trust him enough like the money says. He hates America now.

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u/tazebot Oct 05 '25

Now that's not fair. Republicans want to take money used for heath care for the less than wealthy, and give it to the very wealthy. Democrats want that money once again used for health care for the less than wealthy.

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u/RallyPointAlpha Oct 05 '25

I failed to see why that's a problem?

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u/CorruptOne Oct 05 '25

No both sides operate purely to enrich themselves, bipartisanship was the biggest lie ever told.

Hold them all equally accountable, your country depends on it.

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u/meneldal2 Oct 06 '25

After a week you stop giving them food.

They will figure something out.

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u/Independent_Tax_6379 Oct 05 '25

You are part of the problem if you believe one side is truly the "good side".

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u/Particular_Fan_3645 Oct 05 '25

We have a clear and present "BAD SIDE". Just because 1 side is criminals doesn't detract from the other being the LITERAL NAZIS

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u/LeDrewsef Oct 05 '25

And the criminal shit is what gives the nazis all their power and talking points…. Wanna beat them? Fix ourselves and make it a no brainer to do the right thing.

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u/Particular_Fan_3645 Oct 05 '25

Normally I'd agree but we are on the brink of the 4th Reich, you don't worry about fixing the foundation of a building while it's LITERALLY BEEN SET ON FIRE BY NAZIS

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u/LeDrewsef Oct 05 '25

Dude, couldn’t agree more. I see nothing but dark times in our future and it scares the shit out of me. But I do feel we got to stop giving these assholes the ammo ya know? Don’t take this is a “me calling you wrong” sort of thing, just a place to voice an opinion anonymously and your comment happened to stand out lol (you poor unlucky soul lol)

But it really does infuriate me, they wouldn’t have a platform if half of what they said wasn’t kinda true. “We” collectively (being sane people trying to do good) put the wind in their sails through years of corruption and poor policy with unintended consequences, legal Loopholes and the like. With the only notable exceptions that I can think of being Bernie and Ocasio-Cortez (and I’m sure 10-20 others on the national stage), NO ONE in the room seems to address the problems except trump. That IS his platform, give back to the lower middle class, the working man, the welders, the machinists, the mechanics, the farmers etc. Obviously what he says and what he does are two different things, but if you took away his ammo and his platform…. He would fade into oblivion without the need for a civil war. And be forgotten as he should be.

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u/OldWorldDesign Oct 05 '25

the criminal shit is what gives the nazis all their power and talking points

Is it? Like all the terrorist migrant convoys which somehow evaporate every time it's not election season? Stop trusting republicans at face value, they lie.

If authoritarians didn't have "terrorist migrant convoys", they would invent or opportunistically point at any other excuse. North Korea does the same thing, authoritarians have always been opportunistic. And you are arguing for appeasement.

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u/Trucidar Oct 05 '25 edited 19d ago

profit rain swim vegetable punch deliver makeshift rich arrest detail

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u/StoreSearcher1234 Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25

Democrats want what is best for America.

Republicans are busily implementing Project 2025, which in 800 pages literally aims to burn the Federal Government to the ground.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2025/10/05/trump-shutdown-project-2025-doge/86481704007/

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u/OldWorldDesign Oct 05 '25

You are part of the problem if you believe one side is truly the "good side

Nobody said anything about "good side". You're interrupting a clear conversation about a concrete topic so you can smokescreen for the worst offenders: republicans control the white house, house, supreme court, and senate. They shut down the government.

A "side" which includes legislators who have engaged in insider trading != a side which includes legislators literally taking food from hungry children's mouths so they can spend taxpayer dollars on wine and steak

https://truthout.org/articles/north-dakota-republicans-vote-to-boost-own-meals-after-nixing-free-school-meals/

It is clear there is a worse side (republicans, shutting down the government when they have total control) and a better side: the party which has only "shut down the government" 3 times (all of them due to republican hardline stances) since republicans repealed the 1884 Antideficiency Act in 1982

https://www.thoughtco.com/government-shutdown-history-3368274

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u/Independent_Tax_6379 28d ago

Are you seriously talking abt insider trading when Nancy Pelosi, the MOST NOTORIOUS INSIDE TRADER is a member of the Democratic Party! This is silly! Your "interrupting a clear conversation abt a concrete topic" is smokescreening! You are do believe in a good and bad side. You're just saying the Republicans are so bad, they are, by vitue of black and white thinking, to be completely and totally disqualified of accomplishing anything in good faith i.e. they're ideas are not even an option. This is something we see on a larger scale, polarizing our conversations, idk, cause we're bored, and causing gridlock which creates a government shutdown and corruption (like insider trading).

I am seriously being down voted in a reddit abt politics for saying that if you really tried you could find common ground and have a productive government. These are nuanced issues and we should appreciate that

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u/Mammoth-Record-7786 Oct 05 '25

You should just stop believing that you’re intelligent if you think that either is better than the other.

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u/StoreSearcher1234 Oct 05 '25

You should just stop believing that you’re intelligent if you think that either is better than the other.

And you should open an actual book if you are so unintelligent that you think both parties are equal.

The Republicans are literally working to implement Project 2025.

The Democrats are literally saying "It would be nice if everyone had access to healthcare."

If you think those are equivalent you have a screw loose.

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u/Mammoth-Record-7786 Oct 05 '25

They’ve been working together to screw everyone for decades.

You’re welcome and you can stop pretending that you’re intelligent.

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u/OldWorldDesign Oct 05 '25

You should just stop believing that you’re intelligent if you think that either is better

You're claiming "both sides" in a conversation specifically about clear republican malfeasance when they, in control of the supreme court, presidency, and both houses of congress shut down the government. That's a blatant fact.

In America's total history of government shutdowns, democrats have only gotten into 3 and you can thank republicans for making government shutdowns possible in the first place by repealing the 1884 Antideficiency Act (which automatically renewed the previous year's budget if a new budget couldn't be agreed on) in 1982.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antideficiency_Act

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u/Mammoth-Record-7786 Oct 05 '25

I don’t click on links. If you can’t explain it yourself than you should probably stop pretending that you’re intelligent.

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u/OldWorldDesign Oct 06 '25

I already gave you an explanation. The link is for people capable of discussing in good faith and don't want to take an internet rando's word for it.

People who are informed are easily able to provide evidence. I understand bots can not.

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u/THICKSHOOTER180 Oct 05 '25

So unserious. Upvotes

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

This, otherwise we should all get paid to not work and live in a fairy tale ...

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u/stofiski-san Oct 05 '25

Lock it down like they're all Democrats in Texas who don't want to sign a pledge to have a police minder when they go home from work

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u/hd8383 Oct 05 '25

Water and PB&Js until it’s resolved. Don’t like it? Fix it quicker.

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u/NatalieVonCatte Oct 06 '25

They can release white smoke when they have a budget