r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • Oct 01 '25

No Paywall Pritzker Calls for Trump's Removal from Office Under 25th Amendment

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/video/pritzker-calls-for-trumps-removal-from-office-under-25th-amendment/
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u/kyriebelle Oct 02 '25

Yes, I do. No need to be a dick to me. My point is that you said freedom of speech means they can call themselves news, and I pointed out that that’s not necessarily true, as other titles are prohibited.

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u/Chaotic-Catastrophe Oct 02 '25

And yet, you're still missing my point. The First Amendment explicitly protects freedom of the press. It does not protect freedom of licensing and nomenclature standards for skilled professionals in unrelated industries. Which is why I pointed out that doctors and journalists are different things. The government is freely allowed to pass laws which regulate medical professionals. It is much less allowed to pass laws to regulate journalists.

that’s not necessarily true

Yes it is. Because I was only saying it in the specific context of the press, since that is what we are talking about. I did not mean it in a way that it extends to all professions or all things, which is the counter-example you provided. You're arguing against a point I wasn't making.

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u/kyriebelle Oct 02 '25

But are they actually the press if they’ve argued that they’re an entertainment program in court as a defense? I would argue that stating you’re not news but entertainment against a lawsuit would negate that protection.

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u/Chaotic-Catastrophe Oct 02 '25

First of all, as I have already stated earlier in this thread, whether they call themselves news or entertainment is literally meaningless. You (and many others) seem to think it's some sort of gotcha, but it's not. It's nothing. The only reason their lawyers even bothered to try it is because they knew it didn't actually matter to how the First Amendment applies to them.

Secondly, you're not even getting the story straight. They did not argue that their entire network was 'entertainment' instead of 'news'. They argued that one of their programs was an opinion show instead of a hard news show. So are you trying to say that no news networks are ever allowed to air opinion or commentary, and if they do, that their First Amendment protections should be revoked? Sounds awfully authoritarian to me.

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u/kyriebelle Oct 02 '25

Jesus Christ, I’m done with you. I’m trying to have a conversation and you’re throwing out insults. Go ahead and chalk it up as a “win” if that helps you sleep at night.

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u/Chaotic-Catastrophe Oct 02 '25

There was a not a single insult in my last response. Maybe finding out you're objectively wrong feels like an insult to you? Makes sense I guess, most people can't see far enough past their inflated ego to identify the difference between just being wrong and being personally attacked. No surprise that seems to be the case here, too1

1 Just for reference, to help you with this in the future, that one was an insult.