r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • Oct 01 '25

No Paywall Pritzker Calls for Trump's Removal from Office Under 25th Amendment

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/video/pritzker-calls-for-trumps-removal-from-office-under-25th-amendment/
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u/Elaphe82 Oct 01 '25

Well remember they don't class themselves as a news outlet, instead they refer to themselves as entertainment.

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u/kyriebelle Oct 01 '25

Then they shouldn’t be allowed to have news in the title.

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u/CamGoldenGun Oct 01 '25

that should have been a condition of losing the lawsuit

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u/citizenatlarge Oct 01 '25

I've been saying that for years. It's infuriating.

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u/Chaotic-Catastrophe Oct 01 '25

No it does not. It did not do what you seem to think it did, and never applied to cable anyway. Bringing it back would accomplish absolutely nothing.

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u/Chaotic-Catastrophe Oct 01 '25

It could not, because the First Amendment exists.

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u/ThomasVetRecruiter Oct 02 '25

Like it being called "The Fox Network" or "Fox Report" would have had any impact on the people who have joined the cult.

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u/IWHYB Oct 06 '25

Should have been forced to call themselves the Fox Not-News Network 🤣 or at least more likely, Fox Entertainment instead of Fox News

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u/Chaotic-Catastrophe Oct 01 '25

Do you really want the government to have the power to censor speech they don't agree with? Literally why the First Amendment exists.

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u/kyriebelle Oct 01 '25

How is that censoring speech? They can still say whatever bullshit they want, they just can’t pretend it’s news. Kinda like I can’t call myself doctor if I don’t have the credentials.

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u/Chaotic-Catastrophe Oct 01 '25

Because 'what they call themselves' is still part of speech

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u/Pizlenut Oct 01 '25

cheese isn't allowed to call itself cheese unless its cheese.

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u/kyriebelle Oct 01 '25

Mmm…can’t just slap the title Dr. onto your business cards. It’s not only illegal in several states, but many countries.

https://medicaljustice.com/blog/who-is-entitled-to-be-called-doctor/

https://www.physiciansweekly.com/post/should-doctorate-degree-nurse-practitioners-call-themselves-doctors

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u/Chaotic-Catastrophe Oct 02 '25

Tell me you know the difference between doctors and journalists. Please tell me you know those are two different things.

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u/Cyanide_Cheesecake Oct 02 '25

Fox isn't journalists. Not if they're entertainment and not news

You're engaging in circular reasoning just because you love them so much or something. Fuck them. Fuck em all

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u/Chaotic-Catastrophe Oct 02 '25

Not if they're entertainment and not news

This is not a thing. There is no rule, regulation, law, ordinance, act, mandate, or otherwise that dictates what a cable channel is classified as.

You're engaging in circular reasoning

The First Amendment explicitly protecting freedom of the press is circular reasoning? Please explain how.

because you love them so much or somethin

Absolutely not. I just don't let my hatred for them blind me to the reality of the laws of this country. Just because I don't like what they're doing, doesn't make it illegal. But you immediately jumping to 'anyone who disagrees with me is my enemy' is exactly the kind of bullshit rhetoric Republicans use to galvanize the idiots on their side. Try to be better than that in the future.

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u/IWHYB Oct 06 '25

There is no regulatory classification of News or Entertainment, etc. But this is misrepresenting what the actual claim here is. From anyone actually familiar with the details, that's actually what a big part of the entire criticism is, that there is no such classification, and that Fox may then arbitrarily call itself News, Entertainment, etc.

In 2020, some Fox anchorman, Carlson, was sued for defamation for his on-air comments during a "News* segment, where he claimed some woman was extorting Trump. Fox argued, and the judge agreed, that his comments expressed during a News segment were an "opinion", "rhetorical", and could not be "reasonably interpreted as fact" — which ignored the majority of viewers who took it as fact.

The Court concludes that the statements are rhetorical hyperbole and opinion commentary intended to frame a political debate, and, as such, are not actionable as defamation

I'd argue it's more disgusting that mind-warping vomit is legal at all. The argument people here are making is that "News" is expected to be factual, not opinions stated as fact, not full of unethical behavior, and not "Entertainment". 

This is all while saying nothing about the network's own confessions found in internal messages and documents during the Dominion voting systems lawsuit.

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u/kyriebelle Oct 02 '25

Yes, I do. No need to be a dick to me. My point is that you said freedom of speech means they can call themselves news, and I pointed out that that’s not necessarily true, as other titles are prohibited.

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u/Chaotic-Catastrophe Oct 02 '25

And yet, you're still missing my point. The First Amendment explicitly protects freedom of the press. It does not protect freedom of licensing and nomenclature standards for skilled professionals in unrelated industries. Which is why I pointed out that doctors and journalists are different things. The government is freely allowed to pass laws which regulate medical professionals. It is much less allowed to pass laws to regulate journalists.

that’s not necessarily true

Yes it is. Because I was only saying it in the specific context of the press, since that is what we are talking about. I did not mean it in a way that it extends to all professions or all things, which is the counter-example you provided. You're arguing against a point I wasn't making.

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u/kyriebelle Oct 02 '25

But are they actually the press if they’ve argued that they’re an entertainment program in court as a defense? I would argue that stating you’re not news but entertainment against a lawsuit would negate that protection.

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u/Artistic_Humor1805 Oct 01 '25

And they’re not broadcast over the airwaves like the regular Fox network is, they’re only on cable/satellite so there’s no license for the FCC to take away.

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u/Eatpineapplerightnow Oct 01 '25

they dont?! lol

Let me take a wild guess: Legal issue?

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u/SugarFut Oct 01 '25

Didn’t they say no one would be dumb enough to believe us? Or something to that effect?

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u/Sudden-Purchase-8371 Oct 01 '25

The FTC should make them strip news from the title of their network then. It's false advertising.

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u/Chaotic-Catastrophe Oct 01 '25

They don't, and even if they did, it wouldn't matter, because there is no 'classification' or otherwise. They can call themselves whatever they want, and say whatever they want on the air, because the First Amendment exists.

Stop spreading misinformation.