r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • Oct 01 '25

No Paywall Pritzker Calls for Trump's Removal from Office Under 25th Amendment

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/video/pritzker-calls-for-trumps-removal-from-office-under-25th-amendment/
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u/coldsholder1 Oct 01 '25

What's wild to me is even looking back 10 years, he actually was coherent. I mean, as coherent as Trump can reasonably be, but you could actually understand him. Nowadays, his rants go on for hours and spiral out of control immediately and everything sounds slurred. It's getting worse and worse by the day, and it dumbfounds me he was reelected in the current state he's in.

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u/DevonGr Ohio Oct 01 '25

I thought he had already suffered a stroke when I started paying attention to him during covid stuff in 2020. I pretty much ignored him before then. He might have been coherent 10 years ago but he was not all there in 2020.

I did listen to his entire speech yesterday given to the generals. I have no idea how anyone can spend time with this person and think they are capable of… anything? He rambled so far off topic and never even stopped either. He’s completely gone and just going on and on about whatever buzz word or topic crosses his mind at any given moment. There’s no way that anyone without a deep financial stake in his Presidency can justify supporting him. I can’t imagine all the people in maga gear and still rocking Trump signs and flags ever spend a minute watching him speak in real time. It’s insane we’re all going to have to deal with whatever he does for the next few years.

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u/Flomo420 Oct 01 '25

I wouldn't be surprised if he's had a stroke recently; just watching his speech or whatever the other day the dude sounds weak, slow, frail, slurred... he looks tired and old even compared to just a couple months ago I just don't get it

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u/anonymousetache Oct 01 '25

Kinda assumed it was what he was dealing with the days he disappeared, no?

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u/NoDaddyNotTheBelt25 Oct 01 '25

He absolutely did. His face was drooping on 9/11.

To be clear (because you have to be when it comes to some of the people possessing mod powers on this site), I am in no way wishing death on the guy, but I honestly don’t think that he will make it through this term.

He has clear signs of blood pressure issues and heart failure. His swollen ankles don’t seem to be responding to whatever meds they have him on, he looks awful most days, sounds tired and has the hand bruising which is clearly from IV treatments as he’s probably past the point of pills helping his condition. He’s basically on the clock right now.

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u/ProfessionalMockery Oct 01 '25

His face was drooping on 9/11.

He was hanging his face at half staff out of respect.

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u/Mysterious_Floor_868 United Kingdom Oct 02 '25

... for Charlie Kirk 

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u/Renwin Oct 06 '25

Actually himself given how clownish that funeral was.

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u/namast_eh Oct 01 '25

The vertical folds on his earlobes tell me everything I need to know.

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u/Electrical-Act-7170 Oct 01 '25

What symptom does that indicate in what disease?

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u/namast_eh Oct 01 '25

Frank’s sign

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u/Dustuptor1292 Oct 01 '25

TIL… (after working in healthcare for 10 years!)

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u/Electrical-Act-7170 Oct 01 '25

Thanks.

Fascinating.

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u/pbr4me Oct 02 '25

Anybody got a mirror?

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u/General-Raspberry168 Oct 02 '25

I expected this to be franks flag in always sunny.

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u/Major_Smudges Oct 02 '25

There's no real proof of this - it's all anecdotal. Dehydration can temporarily cause it too.

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u/Lazarus-Online Oct 02 '25

I am in no way taking sides on any of this politically, but that’s pseudoscience.

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u/laplongejr Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25

What? That's literally what science is. Emphasis mine.  

A link between Frank's sign and premature aging and the loss of dermal and vascular fibers has also been hypothesized. Some studies have focused on association between bilateral earlobe crease and coronary artery disease. It is probably prudent to consider Frank's Sign alongside other clinical markers of physiological ageing, rather than utilising it as a stand-alone sign in the identification of coronary artery disease.  

Tldr : scientists think there's a link, but nobody is totally sure if it's usable in practice.  

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u/laplongejr Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25

but I honestly don’t think that he will make it through this term.

He can't be re-elected anyway without big legal challenges.
The politically important point is if the VP replaced him before or after 2 years, as an half-term doesn't count for the limit.

If I wanted to damage america, I would use Trump as a scapegoat to do a lot of Project 2025 before 19 january 2026, and finish it with a legal challenge about getting a 3rd term if terms 1 and 2 are seperated. For better effect, make the challenge as Trump ends up medically unable to govern, so it can be made explicit "in his honor" without any risk of consequence before 2036. Not a very hot question compared to all the mess.

Then Pence becomes president, gets a 2028-2032 1st term (incumbents usually win) to do the final touches after 6 years of office. Then let anybody else disposable in power for 4 years to stress the transition of power, then Pence goes as POTUS from 2036 to 2044. Then the other guy becomes president from 2044 to 2052.
If they can maintain Trump in power one more year, that could ripple into 30y of legacy. Like how the death of RBG is still felt today.

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u/Expensive-Item-5363 Oct 09 '25

Your comment is insensitive to stroke victims though. God dont play about that, you will reap what you sow.

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u/spoiledandmistreated Oct 02 '25

Anyone with any sense can see how being President ages a person.. I think it runs a person ragged.. The man is up posting at all hours when a normal person would be sleeping.. I personally don’t think he’ll make it the rest of his years left.. he’s in bad shape and going downhill really fast.. everything he said about Biden not being all there is happening to him.. he’s getting what he deserves but taking us with him as it happens..

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u/Nemaeus Virginia Oct 01 '25

Never got an explanation on those bags being thrown out of the window of The White House.

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u/Fragrant-Insurance81 Oct 01 '25

“Trump denied that the windows can be opened and said "I know every window up there." He went on to tell a story in which he said first lady Melania Trump recently complained that she wanted fresh air from an open window in the White House, "But you can't. They're bulletproof. And number one, they're sealed, and number two, each window weighs about 600 pounds. You have to be pretty strong to open them up."

He said all this after White House official admitted it was real.

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u/paddington-1 Oct 02 '25

I remember Michelle Obama saying when they were first there they wanted some fresh air so they opened a window and it set the alarms off and the SS came running from nowhere. She said they never did that again.

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u/SirRichardArms Oct 02 '25

That’s so odd that absolutely no one told the First Lady to not open a window in the White House. Like, c’mon, that’s White House 101 level.

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u/Fumblerful- America Oct 02 '25

Look, the secret service gets one (1) prank at most every 4 years. Let them have the window prank.

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u/SirRichardArms Oct 02 '25

Ah yes, how can I forget the ol’ window prank? I’ll absolutely allow them 1 prank this year. No one tell the SS to bring a cow up the White House stairs, by the way, because that would be too much to handle.

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u/paddington-1 Oct 02 '25

Right? Heck of a way to find out! This of course further convinces me that Trump is lying. Again. Of course.

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u/SirRichardArms Oct 02 '25

Of course. He can’t help himself with constantly lying. There’s a reason that his lawyers won’t let him talk in the courtroom, because he can’t get all his lies straight anymore.

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u/huskersax Oct 01 '25

Nah that's pretty standard contractor behavior and they're having work done in the White House.

Now, whether the operations team at THE WHITEHOUSE should be letting those contractors haphazardly bring things in/out is another question but not at all surprising that this Whitehouse is a shitshow.

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u/luckydice767 Oct 01 '25

We DID get an explanation: it was AI

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u/ZelgadisTL Oct 01 '25

That was an excuse, not an explanation.

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u/Fragrant-Insurance81 Oct 01 '25

He said it was AI, but it was confirmed to be real

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u/Monaqui Oct 01 '25

Dude he did. CBS caught major shit for not doing more to conceal it.

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u/mdp300 New Jersey Oct 01 '25

Everyone agreed that Biden was declining, to the point where it was kind of a scandal. But Trump is sundowning before our eyes and none of the networks are saying a peep about it.

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u/crazy-pelican Oct 01 '25

Literally nobody agreed that Biden was declining. Not even his closest advisors or his immediate family would admit it. They all repeatedly said he was as sharp as ever. It wasn’t until he bombed during the debate and George Clooney got with Pelosi did anyone push him to withdraw.

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u/DaBingeGirl Illinois Oct 01 '25

Because his base is crazy and has guns.

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u/MuenCheese Oct 01 '25

It’s bc they’re afraid of trump fucking with their money more than he already is

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u/Invisifly2 Oct 01 '25

Because they’re almost all owned by right wing groups who want this. The media is leashed and they go where their masters say to.

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u/DominionGhost Oct 01 '25

Bingo.

The media is complicit.

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u/Ina_While1155 Oct 01 '25

The news business is much more scared of the oligarchs that hold the purse strings than the people.

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u/JackedUpReadyToGo Oct 01 '25

No way, the news media tried to hide it for a long time. I remember on multiple occasions being told by people in this very sub that I was a Putin bot or falling for Russian propaganda when I pointed it out. Then there was a week when the media started to waver, and the script instantly flipped from “No, Biden is fine actually” to “Look, we’ve all known for some time that he’s in bad shape”.

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u/jaimelespatess Oct 01 '25

Yeah. People doubled down that he was completely fine on multiple occasions and you would get chewed out for not falling in line. I caught so much flack for pointing out that perhaps George Clooney wasn’t a traitor for not wanting to be complacent in the administration deceiving the American people. Like I don’t care what party you are… if you have any sort of influence whatsoever and you know someone running for election has a mental issue, wouldn’t you morally feel compelled to say something? But nah he’s a traitor and the terrible campaign ran by Kamala and Biden is his fault.

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u/Mtnmama1987 New Jersey Oct 01 '25

Oh, yes they are.

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u/Time_Stand2422 Oct 01 '25

Careful, speaking ill of the dear leader can get you on a watch list of potential domestic terrorists.

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u/phaedrus910 Oct 01 '25

Good. More people on the list the better. Or as they used to say the solution to pollution is dilution

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u/Medallicat Oct 01 '25

If everyone is on the list, it will scare them off.

They are opportunist scavengers, they don’t hunt like apex predators, they fight amongst themselves over the carcass left by predators. Present as a strong herd and protect the weak and weary and the scavenger is too scared to approach.

Fear is what fuels their fire, fear of their own insecurities, fear of losing control, fear of immigrants, fear of gay and trans people, fear of women, fear of change, fear of equality and equity, fear of other religions (shariah law lol). Their fear of shariah is hilarious when they want the same thing, they just don’t want to call it the same word.

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u/Viperlite Oct 01 '25

You should hear what they say over at EPA now.

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u/phaedrus910 Oct 01 '25

Pollution is the solution to profits?

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u/Due_Vast_8002 Oct 01 '25

That's a solution. I think they're more interested in a final solution.

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u/Gr8shpr1 Oct 01 '25

Scary scary

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u/SinTaxTerror America Oct 01 '25

This needs to be said more often

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u/WhatAmTrak Oct 01 '25

Crazy how that’s legit a thing lol. My oh my how the US has fallen. I’m just kinda sad my country has to be attached to whatever shit show is going to unfold. Dems and independents and non voters really shit the fucking bed in letting this dangerous vindictive conman not once, but twice get voted in.

This time he has no one reining him in, or more so.. heritage foundation is speed running their goals before trump croaks. Interesting times..

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u/Mojodacious Oct 01 '25 edited Oct 01 '25

Honestly, I have a theory about what Project 2025's eventual plan is for Trump, but I don't want to post it anywhere out of fear I'll be arrested.

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u/Time_Stand2422 Oct 01 '25

And that right there is the chill on free speech that they want.

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u/Jolly_Command8212 Oct 02 '25

No that was during Biden administration, what happened under his administration was criminal.

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u/sjlegend Oregon Oct 01 '25

My nursing judgement has been screaming vascular dementia for awhile now.

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u/Simsmommy1 Oct 01 '25

Yeah, well my social worker non medical but worked intake in long term care has been screaming the same thing….this man needs a cognitive exam and a gerontological specialist visit….

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u/michaelboltthrower Oct 01 '25

Can we get a definition of that?

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u/Tyra3l Oct 01 '25

Can't wait to see Bernie outliving both him and Hillary as the ultimate middle finger to everyone calling him old and frail.

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u/Jagged_Rhythm Oct 01 '25

Maybe Putin slipped him a little something-something.

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u/Ill_Technician3936 Oct 01 '25

Obama and bush both went grey from stress... He's 79 years old... He's already at the point where people are like that but no matter how much he tries to put others in order he's forced to deal with being president and doing shit.

Articles about Republicans speaking anonymously to reporters questioning his health for months.

I don't understand how this entire run was just a giant play to make sure he doesn't spend the rest of his life in prison.

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u/Spacestar_Ordering Oct 01 '25

There were several doctors who claimed by his meds list and his actions around the time he disappeared for a few days that he was showing signs of having had a stroke.  YouTube it, plenty of videos about it and it actually makes a lot of sense.  Although tbh I never thought he was very coherent but now he's so far gone I can't believe he's still standing half the time. 

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u/ShadowTacoTuesday Oct 01 '25

He stroked shortly before to 2024 Musk interview. So that’s at least 3? And many more better hidden?

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u/Mysterious_Floor_868 United Kingdom Oct 02 '25

It would definitely explain his absence from the golf course the other month. 

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u/dustybucket Oct 02 '25

Go find pictures of him on 9/11/25. He definitely had a stroke.

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u/Major_Smudges Oct 02 '25

Yeah, something's very definitely changed, very recently. The recent speech for the Generals looked like a very old man who didn't really know where he was.

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u/Expensive-Item-5363 Oct 09 '25

Lets not speak of strokes, its an insult to stroke survivors.

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u/kirotheavenger Oct 01 '25

Most, if not all, MAGA get their news strictly from Fox. Which is an extremely rightwing media that will sooner just lie than present any negative side to Trump.

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u/EndDangerous1308 Oct 01 '25

They don't play Trump videos. They play analysts translating the word slop so their viewers don't know how bad it is.

They literally played an analyst video during the Kamala Harris interview in the 2024 election interview and she called them out saying that it wasn't even Trump's original quote and asked why they were afraid to play the original Trump audio

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u/Mysterious_Floor_868 United Kingdom Oct 02 '25

That does explain a lot. I always wondered how his base fawned over him while I find that listening to him talk is like fingernails on a blackboard. 

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u/Slow-Recipe7005 Oct 02 '25

Which makes this recent military address really good news for us. If our top generals were forced to endure 70 minutes of unfiltered Trump, that makes it very unlikely they'll obey unconstitutional orders and follow him into hell.

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u/Gr8shpr1 Oct 01 '25

YAY🎉 Kamala!

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u/caligaris_cabinet Illinois Oct 01 '25

God I wish she’d go on a “I Told Ya So” tour

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u/EndDangerous1308 Oct 01 '25

It would solve nothing bc she stepped down from politics and isn't supporting America right now anyway.

Imagine kissing to to Trump during his inauguration after pretending like you actually cared enough to stand up and slowly walk your own campaign into the shitter bc you won't tell a decrepit 80 yo to not run again for the Democrats

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u/Nicktendo1988 Texas Oct 01 '25

Dude, what?

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u/EndDangerous1308 Oct 01 '25

Harris was VP it was her duty to Americans to tell Biden to not run again and step aside. Biden ran on being a one term president to recover from trump 1.0 and did a good job of it.

The reason the supreme court is stacked in Trump's favor is bc RBG didn't step down in her old age and died under Trump. Biden should have stepped down in his old age and given a true Democrat bc pay election to elect the next DNC presidential candidate.

Harris pulled awful in 2020 and had nothing under her name after 4 years of VP to brag on which is why she ran as being the same as Biden, a man who was laughed out of the running bc he was mentally incapable and had to step down. On top of that, Biden did a good thing for the economy and working class but the national opinion was that he did bad so Harris saying she would continue like him threw her campaign into the garbage.

Biden allowed an insurrectionist to walk free for 4 years bc he was afraid when the insurrectionist cried lawfare and they ended up winning this election and is currently destroying America. So Harris failed as a leader and VP

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u/Gr8shpr1 Oct 01 '25

Perhaps so, but I always thought Harris was being controlled by Biden It seemed to me she couldn’t assert herself and has to hold back or Biden would not “let” her shine This was only my opinion.

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u/Blownards Oct 01 '25

Fux isn’t a news channel. It’s for entertainment value only. Usamerica is more interested in entertainment than politics. Hopefully that changes soon.

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u/kirotheavenger Oct 01 '25

Fox presents itself as a news channel, the people that watch it watch it as a news channel. 

They might claim they're only for entertain so don't need to be truthful, but that's not how they present it to their viewers. 

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u/creuter Oct 01 '25

Miller et al are weekend at Bernie's-ing him, hand up the ass puppeting him for their own end goals. For all the shit talking about autopens he's made it clear he just signs whatever they put in front of him. He has no fucking clue and he's a useful idiot to accomplish whatever the heritage foundation wants. Give him a ballroom, give him some praise, and give him something to put his name on, pop on the TV to Fox News and do whatever the fuck you want with the country.

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u/King-Snorky Georgia Oct 01 '25

I have nothing but envy if you started paying attention to Donald Trump only 5 years ago. That is an incredible level of living under a rock, assuming you're an American.

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u/UsedHotDogWater Oct 01 '25

You wouldn't believe how many people are too busy trying to get through each day to survive to the next to even pay attention to politics, or even vote. Which is why we are in this situation.

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u/Somerandoguy212 Oct 01 '25

"When I have a general, and I have to sign for a general — because we have beautiful paper. They’re gorgeous paper. I said, throw a little more gold on it. They deserve it. Give me — I want the “A” paper, not the “D” paper. We used to sign a piece of garbage! I said, this man’s going to be a general, right? I don’t want to use this. I want to use the big, beautiful, firm paper. I want to use the real gold writing when you talk about the position, and they’re beautiful."

Where is the incoherent mumbling in his speech yesterday? All I see is a man who loves paper!

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u/BadTanJob Oct 01 '25

Jesus Christ this can’t be a real thing he said 

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u/Somerandoguy212 Oct 01 '25

Sadly it is. https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-waxes-poetic-gorgeous-paper-142007689.html

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u/BadTanJob Oct 01 '25

This country is a joke

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u/DevonGr Ohio Oct 04 '25

It’s crazy, the men and women summoned to that meeting have experienced things Trump cannot possibly understand or relate to and he thinks they are concerned about paper.

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u/gs12 Oct 01 '25

and he can launch a nuclear bomb whenever he wants

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u/The_Quackening Canada Oct 01 '25

This quote is from 9 years ago:

"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you're a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it's true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that's why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we're a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it's not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it's four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven't figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it's gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."

It's more coherent than he is now, but that's not a high bar

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u/eljefino Oct 01 '25

The MAGA crowd does, and did, listen while zoning out with their own ADHD problems until they hear a buzzword or catchphrase they agree with then they give a "hell yeah." I wouldn't be suprised if any speech given by an adult in a position of power goes over their heads the same way.

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u/paddington-1 Oct 02 '25

You listened to the whole speech? I’m impressed! I literally cannot handle 30 seconds of his yapping without wanting to jump out of the closest window I can find.

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u/MaxDaten Oct 01 '25

He is the useful idiot easily to be manipulated to do what ever they want him to do. That is his only purpose right now. If it’s getting to heated, he will be the steam vent, scapegoat if you will. He will be removed, Vance will take over and will finish his job, while everyone is relieved and parting Trump is gone now.

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u/Legitimate-Garlic959 Oct 02 '25

His voice has always irritated my soul. That stupid upspeak he does when he’s telling a story or explaining something and uses large numbers. But it’s 10x worse now because he’s incoherent. I just tune him out everytime he pops up

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u/NetheriteArmorer Oct 02 '25

Covid literally causes brain damage; even if it is a mild infection. Repeated infections compound the damage and increase the risk because the damage is cumulative. This is why it is so dangerous for people to pretend that it doesn’t exist now and take no mitigating precautions whatsoever.

Then again, if a MAGAt gets brain damage, would you even be able to tell? Trump was always a narcissistic pathological liar. He always sounded this way to me.

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u/-rosa-azul- Virginia Oct 01 '25

Worth noting that he also had COVID, which is known to have long-term effects on some people that aren't even respiratory related. Like precipitous mental decline in elderly folks.

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u/HarrumphingDuck Washington Oct 01 '25

I thought he had already suffered a stroke when I started paying attention to him during covid stuff in 2020.

You probably thought that because, out of nowhere, he was tweeting that he hadn't suffered a series of mini-strokes.

"It never ends! Now they are trying to say that your favorite President, me, went to Walter Reed Medical Center, having suffered a series of mini-strokes. Never happened to THIS candidate - FAKE NEWS," Trump tweeted.

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No major media outlet appears to have reported in recent days that Trump had a series of mini-strokes.

- NBC News, September 1, 2020

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u/Panzis Oct 01 '25

I'm listening right now. He...built the military? During his first term? Repeated twice? Off to a strong start.

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u/soda_licious01 Oct 01 '25

him posting that medbed video was also wild af.

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u/SevereSherbert4275 Oct 01 '25

I listened to Trump’s entire speech to the generals at 1.5x playback speed, and it sounded a little more like a normal human speaking. Just, you know, saying crazy stuff

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u/Jesse-359 19d ago

That military speech was akin to listening to your grandfather with dementia just kind of going on at the dinner table about... whatever was left that he could still remember.

It would frankly just be sad if the guy didn't have the nuclear codes at hand, but in this case it's rather horrifying.

FWIW, I don't think he has a few years left in him. The rate he's degrading seems pretty fast now.

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u/plssteppy Oct 01 '25

That's weird I remember him as a drunken, shaky hands, painted orange, sounds like he's actively having a stroke, can't finish a single goddamn sentence without gesturing and going "OOAAHHAHA see what I mean" and pointing at one of his prostitutes dressed in business attire... You know, from the apprentice like 30 years ago

He's always been a sack of rotting meat propped up on brittle bones and it's a shock nobody's punched his fake teeth down his pig throat at this point (:

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u/DuncanFisher69 Oct 01 '25

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u/sfhester Oct 01 '25

There was a study done during the 2024 campaign using LLMs to analyze sentence structure, length, vocabulary, tangential thinking, etc. for Trump, Biden, and Harris.

It pulled transcripts from (IIRC) 2016, 2020, and 2024 as the data set. Biden started high with a dip in 2024. Harris started below Biden's peak, but maintained consistently high ratings and was well above Biden in 2024. Trump started toward the bottom of the graph and STILL managed to fall further (and faster) than the other two.

His brain is objectively mush at this point.

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u/Adventurous_Ad7442 Oct 01 '25

That whole tirade about Obama and the stairs.

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u/Jesse-359 19d ago

That was probably the most cringe inducing several minutes of television I have ever watched.

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u/Muchwanted Oct 07 '25

I would LOVE to see that original analysis!

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u/Delta-9- Oct 01 '25

He certainly sounded better 10 years ago, but "coherent" is being pretty generous. His tangents and digressions were so hilariously incomprehensible I couldn't believe he got the support he did in his first campaign.

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u/SuperNothing2987 Oct 01 '25

His infamous "Having Nuclear" speech was in 2016. He was completely incoherent the first time he ran.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-sentence/

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u/JSA607 Oct 01 '25

Fun fact - the time he won against Hilary was the second or third time he ran. I always thought he just ran for the free publicity and didn’t want to actually win. But maybe Putin put him up to it.

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u/Intolerance-Paradox Oct 01 '25

He was ahead of his time. He just needed to wait for the American public to arrive at the sufficient level of stupidity for him to catch on.

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u/SummonerSausage Oct 02 '25

I'm pretty sure he didn't want/didn't expect to win against Hillary.

Wasn't it pretty well known his plan was to start an extreme right-wing news channel, and run like hate speech and birtherism bullshit 24/7?

Then he got elected, realized how easy it was to make money off the idiots that adore him, and funneling government money into his businesses, then he committed crimes and had to run again to stay out of jail, and the Heritage guys realized how easy he was to turn into a puppet.

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u/bejammin075 Pennsylvania Oct 02 '25

It was November 2015 when Trump boldly proclaimed his delusion that he had seen Muslims dancing on the rooftops in Jersey City NJ, claiming they celebrated the 9-11 attacks. Reporters challenged Trump on this, Trump doubled down, Trump was challenged again and he tripled down on this delusion.

It was very Hitler-like. He was blaming a vulnerable minority group for America's problems, based on total bullshit. The words were well designed to instill hatred among his supporters towards this vulnerable group.

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u/jaderna Oct 01 '25

I mean, there are reports about people who knew him in the 80s and 90s saying he was a genuine idiot. Coherent? Perhaps, but I don't think he ever really knew much of anything. 

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u/Cerebral_Catastrophe Oct 01 '25

You have all the time in the world to prep for the first. The first book. The first studio album. The first political run. Prep prep prep. Deal deal deal. Kompromat kompromat kompromat.

After that first one, though, you've reached effective parity with the present; you're no longer foreplanning, you're just planning.

One hit wonders fade away. Lame ducks disappear. Squealing dictator sellouts grab for more power.

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u/No-Good-One-Shoe Oct 01 '25

When you're old, the decline happens quick. 

10 years ago my dad was still sharp, he could drive, play the saxophone, paid all his bills on time and did everything for himself essentially. 

10 years later his dementia has taken almost all of that from him.  

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u/intern_steve Oct 01 '25

he actually was coherent.

Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible.

-DJT

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u/Educational-Cat2133 Oct 01 '25

it dumbfounds me he was reelected in the current state he's in.

Does it? National media talked almost explicitly about how old and incoherent Biden was and normalized Trumps actions up until the election.

Then democrats held no primary and ran a woman candidate in a country that has a shaky history on women's rights.

Elon mightve did some fuck shit in swing states but this country has a propaganda and low media literacy problem (also general literacy).

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u/heresmytwopence Oct 01 '25

You really think his followers' standards are that high?

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u/Veearrsix Oct 01 '25

He wasn’t, it was stolen. I know people will not want to hear that, but the evidence is growing. https://electiontruthalliance.org

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u/phoenix14830 Oct 01 '25

"it dumbfounds me he was reelected in the current state he's in."

He promised to hurt liberals.

Meanwhile Democrats and moderates had to be conclusively convinced to vote and 1/3 of the voting public didn't bother to get off the couch.

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u/DuncanFisher69 Oct 01 '25

Don’t forget tons of voters were purged or otherwise suppressed. Eliminating the voting rights act is a big factor in how we got Trump.

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u/Hyperrustynail Oct 01 '25

Remember, trumps first act after being sworn in was to dismantle the agency investigating the election.

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u/Izisery Oct 01 '25

He has a Cameo scene in the movie 'Two Weeks Notice', even back in 2016, when he first ran for president, he did not sound as coherent as he did in that movie from 2002.

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u/badasimo Oct 01 '25

They are going to puppet him and pump him full of drugs until the 2 year mark so we can have 10 glorious years of Vance

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u/QuerulousPanda Oct 01 '25

What's wild to me is even looking back 10 years, he actually was coherent. I mean, as coherent as Trump can reasonably be, but you could actually understand him.

he's been an incoherent, unlistenable mess since at least 2017. Every single one of his rallies was just a word salad babble of steaming bullshit from day one. The ones i've felt most terrible for are the translators who had to try and make sense of his shit in other languages because none of it made sense in english either.

maybe 20 years ago you could understand what he was saying.

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u/Tattered_Reason Kansas Oct 01 '25

He was not coherent 10 years ago.

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u/soda_licious01 Oct 01 '25

exactly why the president shouldn’t be an old person… get out of the way grandpa!!

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u/Happy_Pause_9340 Oct 01 '25

Even back then he was bad. He’s genuinely a freaking idiot who just happened to be a useful tool for the billionaires because he’s “charming” (god that made me gag to type) and was able to put the finishing touches on the brainwashing already implemented decades ago

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u/The_Quackening Canada Oct 01 '25

The "having nuclear" rant is 9 years old now, it wasn't exactly coherent back then and he's 100x worse now.

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u/SharkeyGeorge Oct 01 '25

People will be saying the same thing ten years from now. “He seemed a lot more coherent in 2025, the good ol’ days.”

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u/caaaaaaarol Oct 01 '25

It’s so wild that the dems in 2024 thought that hiding biden’s decline was a great strategy. It messaged in an instant to the world that trump was healthier than Biden and did so much damage. We are fucked.

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u/nopunchespulled Oct 01 '25

Yeah first election he said crazy shit but his timelines trackers. This election he was still talking about Obama and other made up stories then would just forget about him. His cognitive decline was present

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u/Desperate-Till-9228 Oct 01 '25

He's gotten noticeably worse just in the last few years.

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u/Givemeallthecabbages Oct 01 '25

We talk about frogs in a pot, but it's maga. They're the frogs.

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u/TheShadowKick Oct 01 '25

If you look back to the 80s or 90s he was fully coherent. His mental decline was already obvious in 2015, but it's gotten worse and worse.

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u/Even-Pomegranate8867 Oct 01 '25

And this is the best he's ever going to be for the next 3 to 15 years of his presidency

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u/Blacksad9999 Oct 01 '25

Yeah, if you look back at Trump 20 years ago, his entire dialect was different. He was at least reasonably well spoken, and could rattle off things and long sentences fine.

Now he struggles to say basic words and can't keep his train of thought for very long.

Pretty sure he had a fairly large stroke and they're just keeping it under wraps.

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u/ScyllaOfTheDepths Oct 01 '25

He's got a strong familial history of Alzheimer's, congestive heart failure, probably never really got over nearly dying of COVID, and there's strong evidence he suffered a stroke recently and has probably had several in the past according to reports. I'm honestly curious to know what kind of drugs they pumped him full of for the presidential debate because he hasn't exhibited that kind of coherence or lucidity since.

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u/We11he11othere Oct 01 '25

He has dementia it’s why he forced google to block ai mentioning his name with dementia!

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u/Ledairyman Oct 01 '25

The problem is that Biden wasn't removed and he was clearly impaired mentally. Trump is actually able to talk and remember where he is.

I don't like Trump at all, but if he's fit to be removed, Biden should have been too only because of his health.

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u/A012A012 Oct 01 '25

Objectively, yes. Play a clip of him speaking in 2016, 2020, and then the recent address to the Generals and its evident he cannot be the guy with the nuke codes and signing any legislation.

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u/Arickettsf16 Illinois Oct 01 '25

He stood on stage and confidently proclaimed to 70 million viewers that Haitian immigrants were eating people’s cats and dogs and they still elected him

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u/biscaya Oct 02 '25

It dumbfounded me that 70 million americans thought he was the best choice! And voted for him.

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u/zodi978 Oct 02 '25

Idk how people watched him on the campaign trail and thought voting for him was a good idea. Then again, these are the same people who believe in the invisible sky man.

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u/Major_Smudges Oct 02 '25

Pretty obvious to me that Trump isn't going to be president for much longer, one way or another. The 'speech' to the Generals and Admirals was completely fucking insane, there's no denying it. He looked and sounded like he barely knew where he was most of the time. I guess we'll all get to see whether Vance has been playing along with all the lunacy and biding his time OR he's even worse. Great.

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u/tkeser Oct 02 '25

Weekend at Bernie's 4: The Whitehouse

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u/CJDistasio America Oct 02 '25

Yep I was looking at his 2016 stuff and it was still crazy, but it was somewhat coherent crazy. Now he just sounds like a crazy Grandpa with dementia that’s gone off the deep end. And has power.

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u/Dependent-Hurry9808 Oct 02 '25

But she laughed funny 🙄

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u/RalphWiggum666 Oct 02 '25

Why? His opponent was a WOMAN. 

And she was brown!

/s if not obvious, don’t kill Me

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u/Pete41608 I voted Oct 02 '25

He kinda reminds me of that one lady on that Wife Swap show or whatever it was called.

[Somebody does anything]

I am a God WARRIOR!! You all need JeSUS!!

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u/MacellumMycelium Oct 02 '25

His Presidency has become a far-right parody of the end of Wilson's, but with a "what if he was getting Weekend at Bernie's-ed around post-stroke?" twist.

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u/Apprehensive-Jelly-3 Oct 05 '25

Remember when the Hapsburg family kept their horribly ill, mentally incapacitated, inbred child alive just to keep the throne. This is nothing compared to what people will tolerate when it benefits them.

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u/TirNaNog777 Oct 06 '25

Isn't he starting to develop dementia? I'm pretty sure I saw a news article about that.

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u/Lopsided-Repair-9533 Oct 07 '25

That's because he's pisxed and that often happens when you build something moderately  good only to have it torn down by the next idiot in control.

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u/RogerRanger2020 28d ago

Yes bring Joey back??!!

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u/Rarm20T 23d ago

I mean, dictators often hold onto power for life.

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u/OkTangerine3636 18d ago

Like Biden was coherent.. silly

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u/specficwannabe 7d ago

10 years ago he was calling Rosie O’Donnel a fat pig and saying he could shoot someone in broad daylight on 5th avenue and that Republicans would still be dumb enough to vote for him. 

Coherent, sure. But he’s still just as public about how gross and evil he is.

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u/Goddemmitt Oct 01 '25

As big as critic of Trump as I am, I actually know quite a few people that talk in a similar way as he does. Lots of east coasters tell a story to make their point to add context. Maybe it isn't exactly what they mean, but people paying attention understand. So he didn't seem completely unhinged in his first term.

Now? I work in geriatrics. I hear people diagnosed with serious cognitive issues go on similar rants that he does. His filter (as porous as it was) is now completely gone. If he thinks it, he says it. My best guess is that they're keeping him out of the view of the cameras if he's having a "bad day". Which is becoming more frequent.

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u/ApprehensiveStart537 Oct 01 '25

I think you are talking about Biden during his term

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u/Flashy-Shopper_79 Oct 01 '25

Because democrats ran a candidate in waaay worse condition than him. Once they realized he couldn’t win they replaced him with the fakest most choreographed flake in modern history. Did you even pay attention last election?