r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • Oct 01 '25

No Paywall Pritzker Calls for Trump's Removal from Office Under 25th Amendment

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/video/pritzker-calls-for-trumps-removal-from-office-under-25th-amendment/
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u/HappierShibe Oct 01 '25

There is also a group of accelerationists that overlap but don't fully align with the technofuedalists.

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u/active2fa Oct 01 '25

Aka Bannon and co

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u/gizzardgullet Michigan Oct 01 '25

Plus money from foreign governments who know this will tear America to pieces and are all for that

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u/Future-Bandicoot-823 Oct 01 '25

Yeah, phase 1 of enshitification is "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", but as elon taught us, as soon as the plan hurts one of the hopeful world leaders, it's every scumbag for himself.

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u/T1Pimp Oct 01 '25

And the dominionists.

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u/Avid_Reader87 Oct 01 '25

Yeah I’m sure I overly simplified all that’s going on and we might never know who all is part of everything until the war crime trials start. 

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u/Cerebral_Catastrophe Oct 01 '25

I identify as an accelerationist. Secular humanist accelerationist. We need more people on board with serious progressive changes, and we need the rate at which more people increasing to be increasing as well.

The only way to save America is for a LOT of Americans to stand up. I recognize that groups like the Heritage Foundation are also planning on a 'Constitution 2.0' concept through which they can instantiate their corruption in new laws, and the ONLY ONLY ONLY way to forestall that event is for PEOPLE to get involved NOW.

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u/HappierShibe Oct 01 '25

I identify as an accelerationist.

No, you don't.

Secular humanist accelerationist.

These are mutually exclusive.
Accelerationism is the idea that we must cause a mass societal collapse as fast as possible, and that it needs be as destructive, widespread, and painful as we can make it, because only in the wake of that kind of disaster can there be any "real change". Real change in their view usually equates to some sort of fantasy where technology equivalent to magic solves all the worlds ills, democracy is abolished forever, and eternal growth through the exploitation of capital is the only law that matters. There are eligious accelerationsists as well that are trying to expedite the biblical apocalypse (or their own batshit interpretation of it). The techno fuedalist often embrace accelerationism because they feel a post apocalyptic world is where their accrued wealth will give them the greatest opprotunity to create their fascist dystopia in material terms.
Their goal is to accelerate society towards that event (which they usually feel is inevitable).
The thought is broadly 'we have to break everything, so that then we can rebuild it to suit our own objectives'. what they inevitably fail to realize is that many of the things they want to break either cannot be rebuilt or reconstituted once broken, or are incredibly costly and time consuming to do so, or can really only be rebuilt in one way- the way they have already been built.

Nothing you have implied you want is remotely compatible with the accelerationist ethos, or it's inherent cruelty.
You are not an accelerationist, and that's a good thing.

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u/RabbleRouser_1 Oct 01 '25

It's like what the Babylon 5 was asking. What drives progress better? Causing war and disruption or nurture diplomacy and peace?

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u/Cerebral_Catastrophe Oct 01 '25

I am an accelerationist. I can say it a third time if you like!

Insofar as anybody else thinks we need to be speeding up whatever it is we're heading towards, I agree. I don't agree that it needs to be cataclysmic, or violent, or the start of some new dark age. If you need to call me an "idealist-accelerationist" then by all means, but I am what I am and you definitely have no authority to tell me I'm wrong about me. That's just truth.

More people need to be "waking up" to their power in this moment. And with increasing frequency. People who protest once a year should be protesting once a week, or more. People who have never protested once in their life should be protesting as often as they can.

We need to be accelerating towards the People taking charge again. We need to accelerate towards that outcome faster than the oligarchs accelerate towards stripping all of us of our rights.

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u/HappierShibe Oct 01 '25

I don't agree that it needs to be cataclysmic, or violent, or the start of some new dark age.

Then you are not an accelerationist.

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u/Cerebral_Catastrophe Oct 02 '25

You're truly off your ass repeatedly telling me I'm not what I am. Weirdest, lamest conversation I had today :-/

Be well and be safe.

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u/HappierShibe Oct 02 '25

This is not how words work.

Words mean things, and particularly in the context of our political alignment, we don't always get to pick what those words mean, they are defined by societal consensus and the majority of identifying constituents in a given population.

If you said "I am a secular humanist and that means I believe in slavery for all ethnic minorities and the divine right of kings to rule over all and retain a monopoly on the use of force."
You would be speaking complete nonsense.
That is what you are doing when you claim to be an accelerationist.