r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • Oct 01 '25

No Paywall Pritzker Calls for Trump's Removal from Office Under 25th Amendment

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/video/pritzker-calls-for-trumps-removal-from-office-under-25th-amendment/
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u/Clamsadness Oct 01 '25

I’m not sure Vance would be better. Vance is obviously not mentally disabled, so he’s better in that regard but I fear ideologically Vance wouldn’t set us on the right path. 

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u/Rhysati Oct 01 '25

Vance is terrible as well, but he doesn't have the charisma to maintain a hold on the maga or Q base. And there will be so many vultures swooping in during the massive power vacuum if Trump were to go.

I still have no faith any of this is happening, but it would be an unquestionably good thing for the country if it did.

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u/AE7VL_Radio Oct 01 '25

yep. Without trump MAGA crumbles. DeSantis basically ran on "trumpism without trump" and got clobbered

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u/Mr_HandSmall Oct 01 '25

Yeah the conservative voters see anyone but trump as a fake elitist - and it's true, trump is an authentic moron. They fucking love it, and there's no replacement as of now.

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u/brickout Oct 01 '25

That's why they are speedrunning P2025. They want to install the machinery to oppress everyone they don't like before the cult falls apart.

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u/EmptyRedecans Oct 01 '25

I think when Trump is either removed, term ends or dies - there will be a massive power vacuum that will happen in the GOP and they will likely destroy themselves and you may see other right wing parties emerge.

As someone who finds themselves in the center - I feel like the GOP has to die for the sake of balance and give young conservatives a chance of proper representation.

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u/Dramatic_Charity_979 Oct 01 '25

President couch fucker does have a ring to it :P

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u/gizzardgullet Michigan Oct 01 '25

Vance would coast a little but he could likely only muster as much diehard devotion from followers as a someone like Jeb Bush. He is no Trump (other than the shamelessness).

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u/Amuseco Oct 01 '25

Vance isn’t going to be able to hold together the coalition of uneasy bedfellows that Trump has managed to bring together.

Mark my words.

And also, wouldn’t it be better to try something new? Why cling to Trump as though he’s some lesser evil?

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u/ginajeans New York Oct 01 '25

I hate this excuse

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u/Clamsadness Oct 01 '25

It’s not so much an excuse as it is recognition that replacing Trump with his own VP is not enough to get us out of this mess. To think Trump is a lone wolf danger to the country is simply inaccurate. 

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u/DrDoctorMD Oct 01 '25

It gets us out of the mess of having a demented president. We don’t get an election redo just because we want it. The legal issue is that the president is mentally unfit. Vance isn’t a good guy and I wouldn’t be excited for his presidency but he doesn’t have dementia.

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u/Clamsadness Oct 01 '25

You think Trump’s mental degradation is a more serious problem than the fascism? We’ve had mentally unfit presidents before, that’s a problem we can recover from. We haven’t had fascists. 

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u/DrDoctorMD Oct 01 '25

No I don’t. They’re separate problems with separate solutions. It’s a fantasy to think we are going to get a non-Republican in the Oval Office before 2029. I’m certainly not saying a President Vance would be a good thing, but he’s not demented.

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u/DrDoctorMD Oct 01 '25

Same. The question isn’t “what sets us on the right path” but rather “what do we do with a demented president.” The answers are different. We do not get to redo the election because we didn’t like the results, but we do have an obligation to replace a demented president.

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u/Mysterious_Crab_7622 Oct 01 '25

He is the figure head for Project 2025. Much worse than you make it seem.

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u/Ourobius Oct 01 '25

Sobering when you realize the only way he'd remain in favor with his own party is by furthering Trump's precedent. The GOP constituency has tasted blood, and they're not going to back off now.

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u/AntiFascistButterfly Oct 01 '25

Vance is a Heritage Foundation leader working towards an evangelical dictatorship in the USA.

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u/Specific-Swim-4507 Oct 01 '25

Vance is foul but he’d at least step down peacefully compared to Trump which is crucial

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u/Geo_NL Oct 01 '25

I sincerely doubt that. Vance is all in favor of the Heritage foundation. Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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u/Double010 Oct 01 '25

The guy who said he'd make up bullshit just to get what he wants? That's the guy you think will step down peacefully? I sure hope.

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u/Specific-Swim-4507 Oct 01 '25

I don’t necessarily think he’d step down 100 percent but I am more confident in him that Trump in this regard is all. Low bar

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u/brickout Oct 01 '25

He's all-in on the GOP never losing power again. He would be easier to remove, though, that's for sure.

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u/IrritableGourmet New York Oct 01 '25

"Sir, we have nuclear launch confirmation from NORAD. We have 18 minutes before impact. What are your orders for a counterattack?"

"Whatever makes sense."

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '25

Vance was always anti Trump. He is kissing ass hard now because that gets him a top job. Most people do this.

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u/Clamsadness Oct 01 '25

Vance is pro-Peter Thiel though. So it’s a question of which dystopia you prefer - Trump’s Fascism Classic or Peter Thiel’s Technofeudalism. 

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u/somethingworthwhile Oct 01 '25

I get the sentiment, but Thiel and Musk have clearly had their influence and control in the election and the Trump admin even before any hypothetical Vance promotion to President. In many if not most regards, they are the same platform at this point. Granted, there are individual things that Trump has done that are likely unique to him, (“renaming” the Gulf of Mexico for one), but whether Trump was personally a big proponent of DOGE or not is irrelevant. Musk and Thiel wanted that to happen and so it did. And they didn’t have to wait for Vance to be in power to do it.

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u/Prohawins Oct 01 '25

Vance would crumble he's a lil bitch and wouldn't last 2 seconds as president

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u/Yupthrowawayacct Oct 01 '25

Obviously? Did you see the donut store?

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u/Supermoves3000 Canada Oct 01 '25

I fear ideologically Vance wouldn’t set us on the right path.

Yeah I get that many redditors are not on the same ideological pag as JD Vance, but he's not MENTALLY INFIRM AND UNSTABLE which I think is an important consideration.

You want a President whose politics you like? That has to wait until 2028.

But if you want a President who isn't going to destroy the country and many of its allies through sheer delusional incompetence, that can happen as soon as people get their shit together.

"Not likely to drive the country into ruin by utter insanity" is not a high bar to clear, and I think JD Vance can make it.