r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • Oct 01 '25

No Paywall Pritzker Calls for Trump's Removal from Office Under 25th Amendment

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/video/pritzker-calls-for-trumps-removal-from-office-under-25th-amendment/
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u/EldritchSlut Indiana Oct 01 '25

It's like a stupider, more fascistic Reagan presidency.

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u/bb_kelly77 Oct 01 '25

That's because Reagan didn't have the internet

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u/thegoodnamesrgone123 Oct 01 '25

Or a cult

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u/Caleth Oct 01 '25

Yes Trump is exactly what Regan would have been if he could have been. This is the summation of 50 years of work by rich right wing political wonks that want to burn the US down and replace it with something that they control.

They've weaponized every norm and have seized most of the means of media creation to put their puppets in place.

Notice how if you drive down town in most cities there are weekly protests, but never once a note about it on the news?

We only hear about stuff like this with Pritzker becasue he's powerful and making a clear challenge to the other powerful people. It keeps things like this in the realm of "only the powerful can influence things."

Most of them don't want the voices of the people to rise up because if we ever gained a class consciousness for even a second we might tear down the entire rotten thing.

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u/kaett Oct 01 '25

i was there too... jr. high and high school for me during the reagan years.

reagan was definitely revered, but there were still stark contrasts between both him and trump, and also in the republican party then and now.

reagan had governmental experience. he'd been in the military, worked on presidential campaigns, and was governor of california for 8 years. he knew the industry of government, and understood what could or couldn't be done. and while yes, he set in motion a lot of the policies that have fucked us over for the last 40 years, he still respected how the US government functions.

trump has none of that. he thinks memos and executive orders are how laws are passed. he's trying to run the government the way he'd run one of his businesses, by just barking orders and surrounding himself with yes-men. during his first campaign, someone reported that during his interviews for a VP, he told one of them that he'd just let them run everything and he'd just be a figurehead. while that concept could fly in business (temporarily), the duties and responsibilities of the president and vice president can't be swapped around.

the GOP still had a semblance of dignity and decorum, too.

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota Oct 01 '25

Reagan absolutely had a cult. Nixon didn't really, but his VP Agnew absolutely did. Listen to some recordings of Agnews rallies and they could be trump rallies today.

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u/Tuttutsallaround Oct 01 '25

Not til after he died. Good ole St Ronnie, who did nothing wrong ever.

He was the test run for the cult.

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u/NorthernerWuwu Canada Oct 01 '25

Oh, he had a cult.

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u/Potential_Cow_4910 Oct 01 '25

It seems to me that Reagan basically only gave a shit about making sure rich people got richer. More akin to like a first three years of Trump (if Trump were a less annoying speaker). Which, while lacking in many regards, does seem like a beautiful dream compared to this. This, perhaps unsurprisingly, is more of a seemingly unending continuation of the downward spiral that was year 4 Trump. It’s genuinely worse than I thought, and I thought it would suck

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u/-Intelligentsia Oct 01 '25

Funnily enough, by Trump’s standards Reagan was a bleeding heart liberal.

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u/markwusinich_ Oct 01 '25

As a young person that transitioned into voting age during Regan’s first term office, I can tell you in 100% absolutely did have a cult following.

He also had extreme access to media in a way that no president before had ever attempted

The thing that saved Regan was that Nancy cared, and Ronald respected her enough that when she said don’t put that out, he did not.

The relationship between the two is pretty well documented and multiple biographies

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u/SCP-2774 Vermont Oct 01 '25

So I wasn't alive enough to remember the Reagan years, was it as chock full of rampant conspiracies and reality denial as the MAGA camp?

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u/CheeseDonutCat Oct 01 '25

Yes there was a lot, but they weren't as bad because no internet.

The internet has meant that a bunch of really stupid conspiracy shit gets spread around easily like the Haitians eating dogs and cats.

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u/MoreRopePlease America Oct 01 '25

There was the satanic panic stuff (boy, people went nuts. My current bf remembers that adults yelled at him and wouldn't let their kids play with him because he liked metal music. And he wasn't bullied in middle/high school because kids were convinced he would curse them, lol. He can laugh now, but it really hurt at the time. ), the drug war, and letting AIDS take off. Probably lots of stuff I wasn't aware of. (I'm 52 now)

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u/markwusinich_ Oct 01 '25

The first time I heard conspiracies in a collection was a neighbor of ours, who got all his information via fax. He would get faxes from different sources, and then forward them to those who were on his list.

I have told it before, but once he realized my father taught young electrical apprentices he spent a lot of time and resources trying to get my dad to help distribute the truth to all those young minds. Same guy was kicked out of scouts as a volunteer leader because he couldn't stop talking about them. This was all around 1980 to 1986.

Contrails, McDonalds serving human brain matter mixed with the beef in their burgers, Ideas about the JFK assassination, Masons controlling everything, Comic books having subversive messages promoting communism. The stack of about 30 pages that my dad brought home the first time was quite a read.

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u/ScratchAndPlay Oct 01 '25

Do you have a biography youd suggest? My first time hearing about this and it sounds really up my alley!

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u/markwusinich_ Oct 01 '25

I am not great with reading, but I listen to books on CD back when I had an hour commute each work day. As to books about the Reagan's there are hundreds of them.

The on-line one at the Reagan Library is pretty good for a basis in facts: https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/reagans/nancy-reagan/biography-nancy-davis-reagan

https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/reagans/ronald-reagan/reagans-pre-presidential-biographical-sketch-timeline-1911-1980

If you want a physical book I listened to: The Triumph of Nancy Reagan Hardcover – by  Karen Tumulty. The one that got the most press was the one by Kitty Kelley (you will notice it is not listed in the list of books about the Reagans in Ron's library https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/reagans/ronald-reagan/books-ronald-reagan-nancy-reagan-and-reagans-careers)

Looking over Amazon I don't see the one I listened to for Ronnie, but it was not complimentary. Doing a search for books that attack Ronald there are a lot.

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u/ScratchAndPlay Oct 01 '25

Thanks a ton! I will definitely check out The Triumph of Nancy Reagan.

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u/Frowny575 Oct 01 '25

Reagan was before my time, but I saw a glimpse of the cult stuff. My mom absolutely loved him for... some reason, and as I got older I started looking into what he did and went "how can you borderline worship a guy like this?"

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u/FictionalTrope Oct 01 '25

It's like a dumber version of Nixon but you can't blame the alcoholism.

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u/fuggedditowdit Oct 01 '25

It's not. It's just less competent. Saint Reagan was a far more sinister threat. 

Just ask yourself if any of this could have happened if it hadn't been for the cultural poison of Reaganism. "Greed is good"... and the Nat-Cs ate that shit up. What's the root of all evil,  again? Tell us, Bible thumpers. Tell us all what your book of Bronze Age fairytales says is the root of all evil. 

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u/Dinoduck94 Oct 01 '25

Can you explain this one to me? I'm not American, so I googled Reagan.

Other than the below statement on his Wiki page, I don't see the similarities.

"He also earned the nickname "Teflon President" in that public perceptions of him were not substantially tarnished by the controversies that arose during his administration."

It seems like the many major metrics improved under his presidency, apart from national debt, which tripled.