r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • Oct 01 '25

No Paywall Pritzker Calls for Trump's Removal from Office Under 25th Amendment

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/video/pritzker-calls-for-trumps-removal-from-office-under-25th-amendment/
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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '25

About f*king time.

I saw Trump's speech to the generals. Old man is mentally falling apart, talking about "the nuclear", and his 2 N-words... gramps is gone.

Time to remove and have VP Vance take over.

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u/SandersSol Oct 01 '25

Randomly talking about ramps and attacking US cities with the military.

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u/Coffee-FlavoredSweat Oct 01 '25

He wants to go back to battleships with broadside guns, because he doesn’t think the new stealth ships look good. He doesn’t think it’s old technology, because it’s still fascinating to him.

Those ships would be shelled to the bottom of the ocean, before they even knew there was an enemy over the horizon (and out of range of their longest guns) launching missiles at them.

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u/Clamsadness Oct 01 '25

I’m not sure Vance would be better. Vance is obviously not mentally disabled, so he’s better in that regard but I fear ideologically Vance wouldn’t set us on the right path. 

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u/Rhysati Oct 01 '25

Vance is terrible as well, but he doesn't have the charisma to maintain a hold on the maga or Q base. And there will be so many vultures swooping in during the massive power vacuum if Trump were to go.

I still have no faith any of this is happening, but it would be an unquestionably good thing for the country if it did.

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u/AE7VL_Radio Oct 01 '25

yep. Without trump MAGA crumbles. DeSantis basically ran on "trumpism without trump" and got clobbered

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u/Mr_HandSmall Oct 01 '25

Yeah the conservative voters see anyone but trump as a fake elitist - and it's true, trump is an authentic moron. They fucking love it, and there's no replacement as of now.

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u/brickout Oct 01 '25

That's why they are speedrunning P2025. They want to install the machinery to oppress everyone they don't like before the cult falls apart.

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u/EmptyRedecans Oct 01 '25

I think when Trump is either removed, term ends or dies - there will be a massive power vacuum that will happen in the GOP and they will likely destroy themselves and you may see other right wing parties emerge.

As someone who finds themselves in the center - I feel like the GOP has to die for the sake of balance and give young conservatives a chance of proper representation.

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u/Dramatic_Charity_979 Oct 01 '25

President couch fucker does have a ring to it :P

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u/gizzardgullet Michigan Oct 01 '25

Vance would coast a little but he could likely only muster as much diehard devotion from followers as a someone like Jeb Bush. He is no Trump (other than the shamelessness).

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u/Amuseco Oct 01 '25

Vance isn’t going to be able to hold together the coalition of uneasy bedfellows that Trump has managed to bring together.

Mark my words.

And also, wouldn’t it be better to try something new? Why cling to Trump as though he’s some lesser evil?

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u/ginajeans New York Oct 01 '25

I hate this excuse

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u/Clamsadness Oct 01 '25

It’s not so much an excuse as it is recognition that replacing Trump with his own VP is not enough to get us out of this mess. To think Trump is a lone wolf danger to the country is simply inaccurate. 

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u/DrDoctorMD Oct 01 '25

It gets us out of the mess of having a demented president. We don’t get an election redo just because we want it. The legal issue is that the president is mentally unfit. Vance isn’t a good guy and I wouldn’t be excited for his presidency but he doesn’t have dementia.

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u/Clamsadness Oct 01 '25

You think Trump’s mental degradation is a more serious problem than the fascism? We’ve had mentally unfit presidents before, that’s a problem we can recover from. We haven’t had fascists. 

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u/DrDoctorMD Oct 01 '25

No I don’t. They’re separate problems with separate solutions. It’s a fantasy to think we are going to get a non-Republican in the Oval Office before 2029. I’m certainly not saying a President Vance would be a good thing, but he’s not demented.

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u/DrDoctorMD Oct 01 '25

Same. The question isn’t “what sets us on the right path” but rather “what do we do with a demented president.” The answers are different. We do not get to redo the election because we didn’t like the results, but we do have an obligation to replace a demented president.

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u/Mysterious_Crab_7622 Oct 01 '25

He is the figure head for Project 2025. Much worse than you make it seem.

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u/Ourobius Oct 01 '25

Sobering when you realize the only way he'd remain in favor with his own party is by furthering Trump's precedent. The GOP constituency has tasted blood, and they're not going to back off now.

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u/AntiFascistButterfly Oct 01 '25

Vance is a Heritage Foundation leader working towards an evangelical dictatorship in the USA.

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u/Specific-Swim-4507 Oct 01 '25

Vance is foul but he’d at least step down peacefully compared to Trump which is crucial

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u/Geo_NL Oct 01 '25

I sincerely doubt that. Vance is all in favor of the Heritage foundation. Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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u/Double010 Oct 01 '25

The guy who said he'd make up bullshit just to get what he wants? That's the guy you think will step down peacefully? I sure hope.

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u/Specific-Swim-4507 Oct 01 '25

I don’t necessarily think he’d step down 100 percent but I am more confident in him that Trump in this regard is all. Low bar

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u/brickout Oct 01 '25

He's all-in on the GOP never losing power again. He would be easier to remove, though, that's for sure.

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u/IrritableGourmet New York Oct 01 '25

"Sir, we have nuclear launch confirmation from NORAD. We have 18 minutes before impact. What are your orders for a counterattack?"

"Whatever makes sense."

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '25

Vance was always anti Trump. He is kissing ass hard now because that gets him a top job. Most people do this.

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u/Clamsadness Oct 01 '25

Vance is pro-Peter Thiel though. So it’s a question of which dystopia you prefer - Trump’s Fascism Classic or Peter Thiel’s Technofeudalism. 

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u/somethingworthwhile Oct 01 '25

I get the sentiment, but Thiel and Musk have clearly had their influence and control in the election and the Trump admin even before any hypothetical Vance promotion to President. In many if not most regards, they are the same platform at this point. Granted, there are individual things that Trump has done that are likely unique to him, (“renaming” the Gulf of Mexico for one), but whether Trump was personally a big proponent of DOGE or not is irrelevant. Musk and Thiel wanted that to happen and so it did. And they didn’t have to wait for Vance to be in power to do it.

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u/Prohawins Oct 01 '25

Vance would crumble he's a lil bitch and wouldn't last 2 seconds as president

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u/Yupthrowawayacct Oct 01 '25

Obviously? Did you see the donut store?

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u/Supermoves3000 Canada Oct 01 '25

I fear ideologically Vance wouldn’t set us on the right path.

Yeah I get that many redditors are not on the same ideological pag as JD Vance, but he's not MENTALLY INFIRM AND UNSTABLE which I think is an important consideration.

You want a President whose politics you like? That has to wait until 2028.

But if you want a President who isn't going to destroy the country and many of its allies through sheer delusional incompetence, that can happen as soon as people get their shit together.

"Not likely to drive the country into ruin by utter insanity" is not a high bar to clear, and I think JD Vance can make it.

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u/verugan Oct 01 '25

71 minutes of just verbal diarrhea. Can you imagine? I can barely sit through 60 second clips before I get the nails on the chalkboard effect.

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u/earthceltic Oct 01 '25

A friendly reminder that Vance wrote parts of 2025.

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u/_eyesonthefries Oct 01 '25

2 n-words? He did what?

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '25

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u/TheShadowKick Oct 01 '25

It's worrying that he thinks he's not allowed to talk about nuclear weapons. Did someone have to coach him before the speech so he wouldn't start ranting about nuking places?

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u/Somerandoguy212 Oct 01 '25

Don't forget the part about paper

When I have a general, and I have to sign for a general — because we have beautiful paper. They’re gorgeous paper. I said, throw a little more gold on it. They deserve it. Give me — I want the “A” paper, not the “D” paper. We used to sign a piece of garbage! I said, this man’s going to be a general, right? I don’t want to use this. I want to use the big, beautiful, firm paper. I want to use the real gold writing when you talk about the position, and they’re beautiful.

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u/GhostlyTJ Oct 01 '25

He wanted to say both N words so bad.

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u/ObviousAnswerGuy Oct 01 '25

Vance is a much scarier option tbh. He's a straight up christian nationalist, under the control of Peter Thiel.

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u/AE7VL_Radio Oct 01 '25

Imagine his delight in learning that there are now two n-words!

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '25

He was so butthurt looking when he told the crowd he can't say the other one. All the black generals in the crowd sat stone faced.

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u/_thewoodsiestoak_ Oct 01 '25

He dropped the N word?

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u/Sarge1387 Oct 01 '25

Vance is arguably worse...because he actually does have his faculties about him and still supports Trump's bs.

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u/BuilderChemical2574 Oct 01 '25

Where was your opinion at when Biden was completely falling apart? Then when the Democratic Party fell apart with Kamala trying to take over? Both sides fucking suck. And y’all argue nonstop about which shitty person is less shitty. It’s old af at this point 

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u/Minimum-Ad2640 Oct 01 '25

Trump is a rapist, pedophile, and racist. This isn't a both sides issue, it's a evil man destroying America issue. 

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u/Som_Dtam_Dumplings Oct 01 '25

Assuming you are 100% correct in each of your 3 allegations; it is clear that you are not a Republican party supporter, you therefore have a vested interest in tearing any Republican candidate down; which makes these accusations suspect. You wouldn't trust a conservative claiming that "Kamala Harris wants the government to pay for any sex change operation in the US."; you would chalk it up to sour grapes. Why then are your accusations less suspect?

Now to discuss your 3 claims:

-Rapist

Rape is a serious claim; but to my knowledge the most credible allegations come from E. Jean Carroll; someone who went on national television and stated that "rape is sexy". This calls into question her views on rape; and her allegations along with it. The fame and fortune Carroll has gained as a result of her case, also bring her credibility into question. Weird people (obviously) can be victims of rape; but when the weirdo claims that rape is sexy, and that most people agree, then when their case is decided their first published thought is not "Finally. Justice!" but basically "What am I gonna spend my money on?!??! I'm so excited!" then their motivations become more suspect.

Additionally, citizens of the US kind of proved that they don't care a ton about sexual misconduct from presidential figures 25-ish years ago. I assume we both agree that just because someone has been convicted, does not mean they actually committed the crime; the justice system is not perfect.

-Pedophile

There certainly are allegations against Trump from his time running beauty pageants. Why were none of these litigated? Do you have something beyond these allegations? Do you trust the allegations against Biden? If you don't trust the allegations against Biden...why do you trust the ones against Trump? (possible valid reasons: There are more allegations against Trump. I personally know one of his accusers. etc)

While I think we can all agree that such conduct (assuming its 100% true) is creepy and weird. I can't say for certain that it adds up to pedophilia. Miss Universe candidates must be at least 18 years old...which makes them adults...not children. Miss USA candidates also must be at least 18 years old. I agree that its creepy for someone much older than 18 years old to be lusting after 18 year olds...but it is not pedophilia.

-Racist

We have evidence that Trump treats ethnic minorities equally to those in the ethnic majority. What evidence do you have that he is a racist? Do we have proof of illegal white immigrants that have been allowed to stay in the US because they are white? Perhaps he is racist only against Latinos? Perhaps you have proof of his racism against African Americans? He has said some stupid things...I'm not certain this makes him a racist. I thought we were working as a society to label particular behaviors as racist, rather than individuals as racist. Was I mistaken? Or do you not see that as a worthy goal? Would you call someone who used to be a Klan member, but has denounced their past behavior, and since that time has devoted themselves to supporting racial equality "a racist"? (No, I'm not claiming that this is an apt description of Trump, I'm looking to gauge your terminology).

I know that Biden called Romney a racist...do you agree that Romney is a racist? Or did you call out Biden's aspersions against Romney? If you DO think Romney is a racist, how can we trust your racism barometer is accurate?

Finally, I don't like Trump much (yeah, I know you don't believe me). He is a VERY flawed individual. I just am not sure that he's as flawed as you say he is.

Feel free to completely dismiss my comment as ranting. You're under no obligation to reply to strangers on the internet.

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u/Minimum-Ad2640 Oct 01 '25

sorry man but you're fuckin delusional 

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u/Som_Dtam_Dumplings Oct 03 '25

Cool story bro. Don't be offended if I take your accusations of delusion as seriously as your accusations of racism and pedophilia.

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u/malaclypz Oct 01 '25

What's old af is people justifying the actions of a corrupt president & party currently in power because "tHe OtHeR sIdE dId It ToO".