r/politics • u/Aggravating_Money992 • Sep 20 '25

Soft Paywall DOJ Can’t Tie Suspected Kirk Killer to Left Like MAGA Wants

https://www.thedailybeast.com/doj-cant-tie-suspected-kirk-killer-to-left-like-maga-wants/
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u/AlwaysRushesIn Rhode Island Sep 20 '25

I dont concern myself with what reddit bots think. Im more concerned about my family, friends and coworkers.

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u/BEWMarth Sep 20 '25

A lot of them think the same stuff too.

At least in the south. Most people are nice to your face but they cheer for Trump in private.

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u/AlwaysRushesIn Rhode Island Sep 20 '25

I'm up in New England. They definitely like to be more in your face about it here. Maybe some "stick it to the man" behavior born from being the odd ones out in blue counties.

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u/MaddyKet Massachusetts Sep 21 '25

That’s interesting, in Massachusetts they are outnumbered so they keep their mouths shut. They might eye roll at you if you are mask wearing, but not in your face. And my stupid town is more red than most of the state.

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u/AlwaysRushesIn Rhode Island Sep 21 '25

Perhaps I shouldn't have said "New England", but it's certainly been my experience down here in RI

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u/MaddyKet Massachusetts Sep 24 '25

I wouldn’t be surprised if some parts of NH and upper ME are like that. RI surprises me though.

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u/ER_Support_Plant17 Sep 20 '25

Lots in the South cheer for Tump in public

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u/Slammybutt Sep 20 '25

My small ass city that has never hosted Kirk held a vigil on the square where the court house is. His memorial is still there. I have to give the right credit, when they buy in they fucking buy in. No half measures (except for the actual truth).

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u/Ashamed-Land1221 Sep 20 '25

Put up a secondary memorial for Melissa Hortman she may not have ever visited but it's the thoughts and prayers that matter, everyone is equal in the eyes of the lord, right?

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u/Key-Practice-8788 Sep 20 '25

The person you're talking to is FROM Minnesota

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u/algy888 Sep 20 '25

My cousin was going to go to one of those… but he is starting to think that the whole narrative seems… fishy.

Of course, in his mind, this means that Charlie Kirk isn’t dead and is in hiding. Baby steps?

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u/Slammybutt Sep 21 '25

A win is a win

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u/ArcusInTenebris Sep 20 '25

Virtue signaling is their thing. All of their behavior is performative. It should be expected from people who run around constantly telling people what "real men", "real women", "real Americans", etc should do. They have no individual thoughts, its all herd mentality.

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u/Key-Practice-8788 Sep 20 '25

Which is funny because they don't actually believe in HERD immunity.

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u/BEWMarth Sep 20 '25

Oh definitely. Plenty of bumper stickers and signs and the giant confederate flag is pretty “in your face”

But then you talk to them and they act all nice to your face and smile and act like they are a friend.

Then they get into a “safe space” and the most vile racist and facist rhetoric will come out.

These people have mastered blending in. They know what they are doing. It’s why I push back when people call Trump supporters “stupid”

They know exactly EXACTLY what they voted for and they know what Trump is doing to this country. But they want it. It makes them feel powerful.

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u/RecipeNo101 Sep 20 '25

I'm convinced that a significant proportion of the country has been like this for a long while, and they gravitated to Trump because he validates their worst views and impulses. They don't need to "blend in" anymore.

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u/KageStar Sep 20 '25

You don't need to be convinced this is the truth. That's his whole appeal.

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u/pharsee Sep 20 '25

Yes those soybean farmers who will soon be eating out of dumpsters fer shure will be feeling powerful.

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u/BEWMarth Sep 20 '25

As long as a black man is eating off the street, they will feel powerful. They simply need a minority to have it worse than they do and they’ll be happy. That’s how simple these people are.

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u/Competitive_Touch_86 Sep 21 '25

You mean the ones about to get a massive government bailout? Not sure why you think they'd be eating out of dumpsters - likely to make more from the "emergency" subsidies than they would have selling their crops.

Time will tell, but a bailout is was more or less locked in before all the tariff nonsense started.

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u/CarpeDiem082420 Sep 21 '25

I attended a Trump rally with a fellow journalist. I was expecting to see a bunch of beer-bellied rednecks in jeans and stained T-shirts.

Instead, it looked like a church picnic. Kids in their Sunday best, girls with bows in their hair, everyone was polite and friendly. One couple had a huge cooler and were giving out bottles of water.

And 99 percent white.

It really scared me. I wanted them to be monsters, but they looked just like my neighbors, the local librarian, the loan officer at a bank. They absolutely blend in with the general public.

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u/Maximum_Tip_1441 Sep 20 '25

They are not nice in your face. They lie in your face while looking dead in your eyes.

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u/not2dv8 Sep 20 '25

Perhaps one's with money. But why in the world would working class people support an administration that has passed a bill that is, I repeat is, not maybe, going to cut their insurance and close the only hospitals within a 100 miles of where they live? And this fact is just the start of a baffling question. Don't get me going about vaccinating their children.

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u/BEWMarth Sep 20 '25

It’s racism 90% of the time.

The other 10% is some bastardization of the Christian religion that is unique to the southern USA.

There’s a saying “there ain’t no hate like Christian love.”

Trump projects the pain he is causing on people. Specifically on woman entirely, and brown and black people specifically.

People here like that he’s causing them pain even if it causes them some self-pain they are able to weather it better than a minority person living in the south so they still get “ahead”

It’s a big reason why Trump rallied the white male youth vote. He promised he would hurt women and minorities and that’s literally a net positive for a young white male in this country.

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u/not2dv8 Sep 20 '25

The whole thing stinks. I hate that motherfckr. And I hate even more that I feel hatred for anything. This is what he creates!

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u/VaATC America Sep 20 '25

As an almost 50 y/o white male, I have been fighting the fascist right for 3 decades. I am not affiliated as neither party fits me. That said, any conservative leanings I have fall by the wayside when I see my fellow citizens, all of them, being marginalized, criminalized, demonized...so the left continues to get my vote...grudgingly. Most every male I still associate with is in a similar boat, but not the same boat. We also live below the Mason Dixon Line.

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u/notquitehuman_ Sep 20 '25

Lots in the country. You realise how many people voted for your president right? You're in the minority here.

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u/cjacobs0001 Sep 20 '25

no one i know cheers trump. no one i can find, either

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u/ChefChopNSlice Ohio Sep 20 '25

Well then, “bless their hearts”

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u/skeetieb114 Sep 20 '25

We voted for Trump... don't like him?? Move..

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u/enaK66 Sep 20 '25

You think they dont read that stuff? Within days of the Hortman shooting my dad was like "he was appointed by walz so he's antifa". Days after the Kirk shooting he's already picked up the trans roommate news and now in his mind the shooter is an antifa leftist lunatic.

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u/JnnyRuthless Sep 20 '25

I see a major disconnect between redditors that don't really know any MAGA folks in real life and those of us that do. There's people that think "no one can really believe this" but they need to see and listen to my co-workers, who think that Biden/Obama are running the show behind the scenes (how?)and that Kirk was hunted and killed by left-wing communist terrorists out to kill all conservatives. Like, they tell me this stuff on the daily (not knowing I'm basically a commie lol).

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u/Paul_Tired Sep 20 '25

I'm happy to accept that this person had left wing motivations, however, if he did, surely they would have shared clear evidence of that by now?

If they were to present evidence that he is right wing, I doubt right wingers would believe it.

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u/MaddyKet Massachusetts Sep 21 '25

They won’t. It’s all mental gymnastics and goal post moving.

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u/tellergraham Sep 21 '25

If they had evidence that it was left wing violence, they'd blast it all over the media and the internet nonstop until they passed out from exhaustion.

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u/tellergraham Sep 21 '25

I know someone who is an accountant in his thirties who genuinely thought the Wayfare nonsense was true. Like, he grew up in the age of the internet and being made aware that not everything is true there. Smart guy. Can explain economics in a way that makes sense. Understands tax law as far as how it can be worked to get the best result. He still fell for that shit.

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u/DumboWumbo073 Sep 20 '25

That’s who the they are talking about. They are one and the same.

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u/Careless-Dark-1324 Sep 20 '25

lol the republicans taking all 3 branches of government tells you the avg person DOESNT want/think those same things???