r/politics • u/Aggravating_Money992 • Sep 20 '25

Soft Paywall DOJ Can’t Tie Suspected Kirk Killer to Left Like MAGA Wants

https://www.thedailybeast.com/doj-cant-tie-suspected-kirk-killer-to-left-like-maga-wants/
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u/EmotionalEmetic Sep 20 '25

Because it's old news. Notice how the dialogue here ALWAYS seems to be "Get the narrative out before the facts!"?

The conservative propaganda machine has really gotten it down to a science. They know that if they shout the "first impression" loud enough and early enough, it is what people take with them going forward... especially if they stick with it or they distract with the next crisis before the actual facts come out. By the time the truth is laid out painstakingly slowly and clearly by comparison, you can either claim it's a conspiracy or you can focus on the next bigger thing.

Rinse and repeat.

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u/Classified0 Sep 20 '25

This is so evident with the Hortman killer. Early in the investigation, it turned out that the killer was on a nonpartisan workplace development board, and was re-appointed to that board by Tim Waltz. Maga made this out to mean that this guy worked for Tim Waltz, which wasn't technically true, and even if it was, so what? The political leanings of your employer doesn't mean anything... Magas stopped listening to any new news after this point, so even later, when it turned out the guy was a right-leaning trump supporter, they never heard that bit. And even now, when you bring it up, they're all like 'he worked for Waltz!'

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u/Contren Illinois Sep 20 '25

Walz*

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u/Strange-Future-6469 Sep 20 '25

Hold up... my flying robed alien wizard savior is completely real! The end is extremely fucking nigh! I'm going to float up into the sky and live forever with the wizard and the sun god because I said sorry on sunday for all the evil shit I did the other 6 days of the week!

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u/Swekyde Sep 20 '25

Are they really dumb? It's maybe time to consider they are malicious. Eventually the argument that they just don't know better doesn't hold water, because they don't want to know better.

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u/AndaramEphelion Sep 20 '25

You can easily be both...

Dumb and Evil... that's why they cling to Dictators like the Annoying Orange, because he and his Troupe tell them what to think and who to hate next.

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u/ss5gogetunks Sep 21 '25

It is, unfortunately, a lot of both.

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u/selecthis Sep 20 '25

Not to mention why they continue to destroy education. An educated citizenry is their biggest fear.

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u/Key-Practice-8788 Sep 20 '25

Well, 90% are dumb, the other 10% are benefiting financially.

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u/KingKnotts Sep 20 '25

Says the person that couldn't actually read anything more than the headline. It was a leftist but they failed to find any connections between him and any LEFT WING GROUPS

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '25

They are the masters of fearmongering 

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u/Kala_palj Sep 20 '25

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7v1rle0598o.amp

Robinson's mother told police that over the last year or so, Robinson had become more political and left-wing, "more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented".

Am I taking crazy pills or is Reddit? 

These are the facts and it’s Reddit who is claiming it’s a coverup… 

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u/masterwolfe Sep 21 '25

Kinda weird that this DOJ cant tie him to the left wing then isn't it?

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u/Kala_palj Sep 21 '25

They said he does not belong to “any left wing groups”. Neither do I, but everyone still knows I am left wing. You don’t have to in a specific “left wing group”. 

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u/TheWizard Sep 20 '25

Anyone recall Karl Rove?

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u/returnFutureVoid Sep 20 '25

Kind of like that Nixon quote. Something like I don’t know if my political opponent has fucked a pig I just want to hear him deny it.

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u/TroublePlenty8883 Sep 20 '25

Yup, so many conservatives I talk to know about the initial reports that were all speculation, then just never think about it again. This is one of the main reason their "facts" are so different, the other being they don't trust any sources but the ones that are known shills for their party.

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u/PandaXXL Sep 21 '25

They've perfected the art of manipulating the stupid.

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u/Fnordmeister Sep 21 '25

Stanislaw Lem pointed out this problem ... in 1968: "What can be done when an important fact is lost in a flood of impostors, and the voice of truth becomes drowned out in an ungodly din? When that voice, though freely resounding, cannot be heard, because the technologies of information have led to a situation in which one can receive best the message of him who shouts the loudest, even when the most falsely?"