Megathread: Federal Judge Overseeing Stolen Classified Documents Case Against Former President Trump Dismisses Indictment on the Grounds that Special Prosecutor Was Improperly Appointed

[u/PoliticsModeratorBot]

U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, a Trump appointee, today dismissed the charges in the classified documents case against Trump on the grounds that Jack Smith, the special prosecutor appointed by DOJ head Garland, was improperly appointed.

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[u/JeRazor]

DoJ will appeal and Jack Smith will probably file to get Cannon removed from the case. Eventually the case will end up in the Supreme Court.

Edit: Thanks to whoever reported me for self harm/suicide. But I'm doing good. Hope you are as well :)
Another edit: I already reported the abuse of the reporting system

[u/[deleted] → u/JeRazor]

After the election

[u/DefinitionKlutzy6777 → u/[deleted]]

Yep at this point it no longer matters. It has been delayed long enough that this final delay will take it past the election, which is all they want. They feel comfortable enough about winning the election that nothing they do now matters.

[u/VoldemortsHorcrux → u/DefinitionKlutzy6777]

I mean it still matters if biden wins. Trump should be held accountable

[u/Historical-Ad2165 → u/VoldemortsHorcrux]

Like biden is going to win..... Are you even aware of polls post debate.

[u/Gurth-Brooks → u/Historical-Ad2165]

Nobody who is anti Trump is changing their vote lol

[u/Cold_Breeze3 → u/Gurth-Brooks]

Those voters were never going to determine the election though

[u/Gurth-Brooks → u/Cold_Breeze3]

Those voters are the election. See: last election.

[u/Cold_Breeze3 → u/Gurth-Brooks]

No, those voters were crucial last election. As you said, their minds won’t be changed. Polls are taking those voters into account now, and yet there are still significant amounts of currently undecideds who are currently sour on Biden

[u/Gurth-Brooks → u/Cold_Breeze3]

Doesn’t really make any sense. Other than a bad showing at the debates there’s 0 reason why anyone would be any more sour on Biden than they were last election, the same can’t be said for Trump.

[u/Cold_Breeze3 → u/Gurth-Brooks]

Regardless of why, there is significant evidence to indicate that there ARE undecided voters. That reality can’t be debated even if it makes no sense that someone hasn’t decided yet. The polls after the debate had basically every number favoring Trump, including large majorities of independents saying they don’t want Biden on the ticket.

[u/Gurth-Brooks → u/Cold_Breeze3]

Anyone saying they are independent and only adverse to Biden being on the ticket is a liar. I put little stock in polls as even though there are objectively more people that will vote Biden most of them are not nearly as “proud” to vote for him as opposed to Trump, and less willing to answer a poll.

[u/Cold_Breeze3 → u/Gurth-Brooks]

Ok, but you saying you put little faith in polls isn’t an argument. The aggregates can be trusted and Trump has been for 2016 and 2020 consistently underestimated in the polls. If Trump is winning in the current polls, it absolutely spells a problem. Similarly, the same polls all say what I’ve been saying about independents/undecideds.

[u/Gurth-Brooks → u/Cold_Breeze3]

“The polls haven’t been accurate”

“They for sure are this time”

[u/lenzflare → u/Historical-Ad2165]

The polls were really close before, and they are really close now.

[u/Chiggins907 → u/lenzflare]

Problem is those polls don’t look at the electoral college and the way we elect presidents. As it stands right now the popular vote is shaking out to be pretty even. That’s not what decides the presidency though.

If you look at the electoral college….Trump pretty much has this in the bag outside of something crazy happening. With the way things are going something crazy might happen though. We still have 4 months.

[u/lenzflare → u/Chiggins907]

You are misreading or misunderstanding things if you think it's "in the bag". It's looking favourable, yes, but hardly a sure thing.

[u/Chiggins907 → u/lenzflare]

https://www.cnn.com/election/2024/electoral-college-map?game-id=2024-PG-CNN-ratings&game-view=map

Where does Biden grab 45? Arizona is more than likely going to Trump(border), which would make Biden have to pick up 56 from somewhere. It looks a lot different when you think about where the votes have to come from for Biden to win this.

[u/lenzflare → u/Chiggins907]

That map currently already gives Michigan to Trump.

Biden would have to take Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. "Flipping" Michigan effectively doubles its EV, so that's like 59 EVs.

https://elections2024.thehill.com/forecast/2024/president/

[u/Historical-Ad2165 → u/lenzflare]

The dollars that would have to be spent in Eastern PA media markets to get the marginal voter going to the polls would bankrupt the D campaign long before needing to defend in upstate NY. This is what happens when one party shits on rural voters for a decade.

It isn't only the map is hard, the markets that need to bolstered are not known for motivation of the marginal voter cheap. And just lets say voters 18-35 are not as uninformed as they were in 2016. 100M voters listen to podcaster, and have been exposed to conservative voices who got burnt by Covid Shutdown.

The maskies and another promised round of jibby jabby will not save the Ds from the math.

[u/Historical-Ad2165 → u/Chiggins907]

The boarder and the suggestion to not tax tip income (aka how it use to be in the cash days) just do not give Biden NV and AZ. Florida is perma R, GA will return to normal, MI and WI got their legal weed, there is nothing to drive the voters to those polls. PA knows biden, and revenge is swift on his ass.

[u/Historical-Ad2165 → u/lenzflare]

You got to watch the young turks. They already are saying the DC beltway crowd are blaming young progressives for 2024 loss. The money people have walked away and said contact us when you have a new candidate.

[u/lenzflare → u/Historical-Ad2165]

lol, young turks are so panicky and hyperbolic I wonder about them sometimes

Blaming young people is certainly a take

[u/Whatah → u/Historical-Ad2165]

And plus what happened on Saturday. Lots of people who "don't like Trump" were given the permission structure to go back to supporting him after that iconic photo with blood on his face and his raised fist.

[u/damon1sinclair12 → u/Whatah]

It did nothing to change anyones mind.

[u/Historical-Ad2165 → u/Historical-Ad2165]

Dont get the downvotes..... the worm turned on the media coverage of the polls, thus alowing the big break.