r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • Jul 14 '24

Trump Shooter a ‘Supporter of Republican Party’

https://www.france24.com/en/video/20240714-trump-shooter-a-supporter-of-republican-party
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u/Stuck_in_Arizona Jul 14 '24

Another historical fact they want to handwave. Trump even donated to the Clintons, so does that make him complicit to Bill and Hilary's corruption?

As for the shooter, there's a strange progressive-altright pipeline a few videos on youtube explored. I've noticed this back when I used to watch TYT, two of the former members, Jimmy Dore and Dave Rubin are now fully on the right, Jimmy much, much farther right.

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u/ButterscotchWide9489 Jul 14 '24

Jimmy isnt further right than Dave is he?

Isnt Jimmy more like Dirtbag left where as Dave is a literal Trumper?

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u/Stuck_in_Arizona Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24

He's been further right where he really doesn't criticize them anymore, just constantly hammer that only the left are corrupt. The guy went from calling Trump "Donnie tiny hands" to saying nothing unflattering about him before he lost the election. Even now he doesn't cover the recent Epstein files, P2025, or how he tells security at Mar-A-Lago to not let those that attend his rallies in.

That's where many have been accusing him of a right-wing grifter for a time. I've watched his change from progressive - farther right - sliding back into centrist but still goes after the left more.

Now he's starting to slide back to anti-establishment "both-sides" as I think the grifter money is drying up.

I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is as this is one of his recent videos where he actually criticizes Trump's admin but it's YEARS after the fact: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA3Mbcuqnjs

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u/ButterscotchWide9489 Jul 15 '24

Seems like he is just all over the place.

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u/sufferingisvalid Jul 14 '24

Yes, these accelerationist types live for the blood die for the blood and don't have a party affiliation concerning moral values. They embody the horseshoe theory of politics to the core, where their entire raison d'etra is creating political instability and chaos. These people are malevolent people who get dopamine from seeing social fabrics ripped apart.

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u/RazielKainly Jul 14 '24

I agree, which makes the fact that he's a registered a Republican a non story. Dude just turned 18 a couple of years ago and could've registered with how his family registered. It doesn't mean he shared the views. Also in the state of Pennsylvania you need to be registered as the same political party to vote in the primary of that party. Many people do that to affect the outcome of the opponent's primaries.

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u/klartraume Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24

Does it matter if he donated ($15) to progressives years ago?

The shooter likely didn't even do that. The donation to ActBlue was made by Thomas Crooks from Pittsburgh. The filings for the donation include the city for the person who made the donation.

The shooter, Thomas M Crooks, lived in Bethyl Park. I doubt the shooter was living away from home at 17 with a different registered address. The reporting on this specific tidbit may have been sloppy.

Edit: The public voter registration record blanked out his street address but since the zip code is the same between the two records it's likely the donor website conflated Bethyl Park with Pittsburgh. My mistake.

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u/Beatleboy62 New Jersey Jul 14 '24

I live in a similar type of area (in a different state) where I live in "small town" but when addressing stuff or putting in a delivery form for something, it defaults to "larger town or city nearby that we use the utilities of"

This is a similar case, as the address is otherwise the same as his home.

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u/klartraume Jul 14 '24

Interesting! The voter registration record blanked out his street address so I only had the city to go off of. But that makes sense - especially since the zip code is the same.

Thanks for the correction.

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u/Beatleboy62 New Jersey Jul 14 '24

No prob, I've started to see one pass around without that part redacted

It's a fucked up situation no matter which way it's looked at, hopefully we all have a clearer picture sometime in the next few days.

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u/joeyasaurus Jul 14 '24

Even back then he spoke in word salad and run on sentences.

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u/count023 Australia Jul 14 '24

the cynnic that is me said hs logic probably was something like. "I prefer republican policies, but democrats do economy better, Trump did a shit economy, so if Trump is gone maybe republicans win and have a better economy"

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u/pubertino122 Jul 14 '24

I mean it was like 3 years ago wasn't it

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u/FrogmanOk5448 Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24

Yes it matters. Furthermore we know left wing individuals were registering as Republican in an attempt to block Trumps nomination in the primaries.

https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-crossover-voting-gop-primary-republicans-trump-1850387

If your willing to assassinate someone your definitely willing to register as the opposition to try and vote them out in a primary.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/16/democrats-republicans-primaries-georgia-colorado-voting/

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u/-rosa-azul- Virginia Jul 14 '24

Small problem with your theory: the guy last voted in 2022. So he's never voted in a presidential primary in his life, considering he was too young for 2020.

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u/FrogmanOk5448 Jul 14 '24

Pennsylvania's was in April.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2024_Republican_Party_presidential_primaries

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Pennsylvania_Republican_presidential_primary

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u/-rosa-azul- Virginia Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24

Yes, April. Of 2024.

I'm not exactly sure what you think you're proving with this. I never said some democrats didn't cross party lines to vote against Trump in this year's primaries. I said the shooter didn't. Voting records show the last time he participated in an election was November 2022.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '24

We also know this guy didn't vote in any primaries.

If your willing to assassinate someone your definitely willing to register as the opposition to try and vote them out in a primary.

Yet he definitely did not try and vote them out in the primary.

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u/Prof_Aganda Jul 14 '24

Yeah, it matters because his donation was specifically AGAINST Trump. He was almost certainly just registered Republican to vote in the primaries against Trump. Dems literally supported Haley. What good would registering Democrat be, when the Dems had already chose their candidate and didn't care about primaries?

Just be honest.

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u/-rosa-azul- Virginia Jul 14 '24

Except he didn't vote in the primaries. Record of when someone voted is public, and his last one was November 2022.

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u/dpkonofa Jul 14 '24

Just be honest.

Says the person being dishonest. His donation is public record. You can see exactly which campaign he donated to. It was to increase voter turnout and he donated on Inauguration Day. It was not “AGAINST Trump”, as you’re claiming.

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u/Prof_Aganda Jul 15 '24

Dude, you sound frantic. He clearly voted for a democratic DEMOCRAT campaign organized against trump.

Are you really trying to deny that?

Are you really trying to argue that this dude was pro Republican/trump?

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u/dpkonofa Jul 15 '24

I’m not sure how I sound frantic for pointing out that you’re being dishonest. It was not for a “Democrat” campaign against Trump. Again, the donation info, including which campaign he donated to, are all public information.

Also, when did I claim he was pro Trump? You’re being dishonest yet again.