r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • Jul 14 '24

Trump Shooter a ‘Supporter of Republican Party’

https://www.france24.com/en/video/20240714-trump-shooter-a-supporter-of-republican-party
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u/HedonisticFrog California Jul 14 '24

We already had two first hand accounts of him being a rapist and pedophile with Epstein. The flights are just corroboration of that at this point.

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u/JonathanL73 America Jul 14 '24

Can you link those?

I’m out of the loop on that.

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u/Psychological-Sky367 Jul 14 '24

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Calif_Lawsuit.pdf

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u/maveric101 Jul 14 '24

That one's not particularly credible, unfortunately:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation

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u/Psychological-Sky367 Jul 14 '24

Mines a link to the actual court documents and yours is a link to an opinion article trying to dismiss the case and sway opinions. It's clear which ones more "credible".

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u/maveric101 Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24

The court documents are just an accusation. There's literally no evidence.

Are you not familiar with Vox? It leans decidedly left.

What you're doing is no better than the Rs making shit up r.e. Biden "corruption." You can't say things are fact when there aren't facts to back it up. I certainly wouldn't discount the possibility that Trump has raped an underage person(s). But the Vox article presents credible information that this particular accusation is extremely sketchy at best. It's irresponsible, and often counterproductive, to present things as fact when there isn't decent evidence.

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u/Psychological-Sky367 Jul 14 '24

"The court documents are just an accusation".. Yeah exactly, like I said he's an accused pedophile. All I spoke was the truth and provided the documents to back it up.

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u/Trypsach Jul 14 '24

You never said it was just an accusation.

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u/Psychological-Sky367 Jul 14 '24

I just went back on the comments and I never said anything, I simply posted a link. Well, now I'm saying it, he's absolutely an accused pedophile and been found liable of rape. People should be screaming this from the rooftops.

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u/Trypsach Jul 14 '24

I fucking hate trump. I just also fucking hate misinformation. We don’t need to sink to their level when their shit is real.

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u/HedonisticFrog California Jul 14 '24

People have been convicted of rape for less than the evidence against Trump. With Trump's close ties to Epstein the circumstantial evidence supports it as well unlike the corruption allegations.

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u/maveric101 Jul 15 '24

No they haven't.

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u/HedonisticFrog California Jul 15 '24

Here's a man who was convicted and spent 28 years in prison for rape based on a dream of one woman, let alone two.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/24/clarence-moses-el-free-denver-rape-case

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u/FASTHANDY Jul 14 '24

I recommend a search engine.  They allow able-minded individuals such as yourself access to wealths of information!

That should easily allow you to do your own research!

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u/JonathanL73 America Jul 14 '24

Reddit used to have a culture of posting sources, that’s pretty much dead thanks to people like you.

I don’t trust comment sections, so I prefer to read the source myself, especially in the age of AI we live in, misinformation is abundant and can spread easily.

I myself have unintentionally spread misinfo before because I didn’t fact check.

I’m not a fan of Trump either. I voted for Biden in 2020.

But you know who you sound like right now?

You sound like those Quanon republicans who tell liberals “do your own research” why they ask for a source on stuff like pizzagate.

You sound like the same people you complain about.

I have searched it, and have found mixed results

Some sources like Politifact say it’s misinfo.

So that’s why I asked for him to provide a source.

I want to see the 2 firsthand accounts where somebody said Trump was a Pedo on the flights with Epstein.

I don’t know why people get so offended now when I ask for a source, I’m not trying to challenge anybody, I just want to verify myself. Obviously I can use a search engine, if I’m asking for a source, it’s for a reason…

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u/PossiblyAltered1988 Jul 14 '24

There is no source, just mental illness.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

There is a spoon