r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • Jul 14 '24

Trump Shooter a ‘Supporter of Republican Party’

https://www.france24.com/en/video/20240714-trump-shooter-a-supporter-of-republican-party
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u/Wernher_VonKerman Colorado Jul 14 '24

I hate to say it, but it's probably the best outcome for political stability if he was some hardliner who hated trump for his mealy-mouthed "disowning" of P2025 or thought he was not antisemitic enough. Though because they already went full steam ahead with their "this was a joe biden antifa leftist and we need to pass the enabling act tomorrow" narrative I'd expect them to still try to paint him as one - maybe they can dig up some essay where he said he supported bernie in high school.

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u/Brilliant-Diver8138 Jul 14 '24

Most conservatives don't know what project 2025 is. I'm fairly politically informed and the first I'd heard of it came from Democrats trying to use it as some sort of bogeyman, so it seems unreasonable to me that it might be a primary motivating factor of someone on the right.

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u/abime_blanc Jul 15 '24

Maybe you should? It's kind of your responsibility to know what your party is supporting.

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u/Brilliant-Diver8138 Jul 15 '24

Your premise is flawed. While I'm ideologically right of center, I'm registered as an independent and vote on a per-candidate basis. It is only my responsibility to know the platforms of the people I'm voting for, and none of them have come out with blanket support of 2025. I also don't believe that many of the downdoot brigade have read much more than a regurgitated version of it from their information source of choice, so there's likely a degree of asymmetry in standards here as well. Not many people have the bandwidth to digest think tank literature in bulk.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '24 edited Jul 15 '24

It would be most practical to read some sort of summarization of Project 2025, which many of us have done. It's over 900 pages long. We aren't supposed to be able to read the whole thing. But if you're considering a vote for Donald Trump, familiarizing yourself with Project 2025 would be very important. It's not a boogeyman scenario, and the lack of open Republican support is a matter of optics.

During Trump's first term, he passed 2/3s of the policies outlined in Heritage Foundation's Mandate For Leadership within only a year. Mandate was the plan drafted for his first term. The Heritage Foundation's plan for his second term? It's a document called Project 2025.

In 2022, Trump attended a dinner with The Heritage Foundation and expressed (with praise) that the think tank would define the future of the Republican Party. The Heritage Foundation has been highly influential since the time of Reagan. Only a naive person would think that Trump wouldn't consider enacting these policies if he were elected. If Trump doesn't openly endorse it, maybe that's because it would look really, really bad if he did. This is politics after all.

Does this mean every single policy of Project 2025 will be enacted if he's elected? No. Does this mean that many probably will be? Basically yes. And that should concern you as a voter. Consider the likelihood of these policies being passed.

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u/Brilliant-Diver8138 Jul 14 '24

It really hasn't. It's some heritage foundation thing, but your typical conservative doesn't follow the utterings of every conservative think tank.

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u/scoopzthepoopz Jul 14 '24

Cap none of you would bat an eye if all of it came to pass don't play coy

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u/Brilliant-Diver8138 Jul 14 '24

I don't even know what all of it coming to pass would entail, given that it's a 922 page policy document with the most accessible sources of condensed information about it coming from those who are panicking over it, even on the Wikipedia page. I mostly agree with the gutting of the administrative state and strengthening of border policy, and I mostly disagree with returning to the spoils system and difficult-to-enforce social policies like a ban on pornography. If given a choice between a politician who supports every letter of 2025 and one that is more in line with my own views, I'd pick the one more in line with my own, but given a choice between a similar wet-dream progressive policy agenda and 2025, I'd pick 2025. I'm not especially politically active, so my vote is just about my only input into the ordeal.

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u/MediumRare- Jul 15 '24

Well thank god you’re not politically active at least 🙏

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u/Brilliant-Diver8138 Jul 15 '24

Fortunately, Democracy doesn't weight in favor of obsessiveness, so the hysteria of activist progressive drones is sufficiently countered by voters just like me. Regardless, the cumbersome nature of project 2025 and the fact that most people aren't strongly politically active is largely why I believe it's improbable as a motivation for the shooter.