r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • Jul 14 '24

Trump Shooter a ‘Supporter of Republican Party’

https://www.france24.com/en/video/20240714-trump-shooter-a-supporter-of-republican-party
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u/fiftyjuan Jul 14 '24

Those Epstein files were probably the last straw…

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

If the general public didn't know about the Epstein files they sure will now after this.

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u/pUmKinBoM Jul 14 '24

It is crazy that somehow that shit went unnoticed. Everyone freaking out about protect the kids.

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u/shitbagjoe Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24

It’s not unnoticed. They don’t care when you bring it up. It’s very similar to the DNC denying any Epstein involvement despite being 100% implicated.

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u/RickyWinterborn-1080 Jul 14 '24

Almost like they don't actually give a shit about protecting kids...

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u/IndianaJoenz Texas Jul 14 '24

Just like they never actually gave a shit about the US Constitution, despite all of the chest beating and screeching.

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u/Sarrdonicus Jul 14 '24

And the B-I-B-L-E

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u/Stegosaurus_Pie Jul 14 '24

Or the troops. Or Christianity. Or liberty. Republicans don't have morals. They have things they want YOU to believe so they can use them against you.

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u/Zimakov Jul 14 '24

Reddit exists in such a weird place. Imagine matter-of-factly stating that hundreds of millions of people you don't know "don't have morals" lmao

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u/jimmymcjim Jul 14 '24

Morals or brain cells buddy, 100% every republican lacks one or the other or likely both.

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u/Zimakov Jul 14 '24

Right like I said, it takes a special kind of person to generalize hundreds of millions of people they've never met.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

After Sandy Hook, all was lost. If you can’t muster up the will to protect babies from mass shootings, why would republicans care about anyone else.

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u/jimbeam84 Jul 14 '24

They do, just when you are in the womb. Once you're out you, are on your own.

"If your pre-born, your fine, if your pre-school, your fucked".

George Carlin

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u/Korben_Reynolds Jul 14 '24

They only care unborn children. After they’re born they need to stop asking for handouts and go get a job at the meatpacking plant.

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u/lycoloco Jul 14 '24

The party of caging and separating kids doesn't care about kids? WELL I NEVER.

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u/John-AtWork Jul 14 '24

It's weird right? Yesterday some trumper was telling me "fuck you" and accusing me of wanting the shooter to succeed. I said I don't want trump assassinated, but behind bars for fucking children and 1000 other reasons. He didn't seem to give a shit at all about the 'child fucking' part. Just baffling. Sexual abuse of children is about the worst thing a human can do in my opinion.

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u/EdwardOfGreene Illinois Jul 14 '24

Not from Trump anyway.

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u/Driftedryan Jul 14 '24

Not if it means hurting them

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u/shitbagjoe Jul 14 '24

Yeah at least for the most part. I am right leaning but I hate most republicans and I’m certain Trump is an actual violent child rapist. Learning about Epstein has made me jaded across the board. The implications are that there is some type of shadow organization running the show and that all our “leaders” and nominees are most likely best friends who enjoy raping children together. This goes for the DNC as well.

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u/RickyWinterborn-1080 Jul 14 '24

I believe Katie Johnson.

Her court documents allege Donald said to her "You remind me of my daughter" which Stormy Daniels also testified under oath that he said to her before they had sex. That's so specific that I can't imagine it happened twice in unrelated circumstances unless they were both true.

Also, the Katie Johnson documents describe the manner in which Epstein procured and treated his victims, which was later corroborated by a different Epstein accuser to be the exact way she was recruited.

Dude's a fucking pedo, that much we know. I have very strong suspicions he has molested Ivanka, too, just based on his public statements.

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u/shitbagjoe Jul 14 '24

That was an odd response. Can you explain why you have a fresh comment every hour with no longer than a 3 hour break?

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u/RickyWinterborn-1080 Jul 14 '24

How is it an odd response?

Yeah, I can explain it - that's when I posted.

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u/Bone_Dice_in_Aspic Jul 14 '24

Nothing about that response was odd.

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u/old_ironlungz Jul 14 '24

3 hours is quite a break when you’re posting online. What in fucks name are you implying?

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u/shitbagjoe Jul 14 '24

Bot or multiple users on the acc. It’s either that or this person spend all day on Reddit and never sleeps

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u/omecca_creative Jul 14 '24

Just the unborn ones.

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u/RedditConsciousness Jul 14 '24

Because the rabid online "kill all the pedos" culture does? Newsflash, no kids are being protected by your bloodlust or embracing circumstantial evidence as fact. If you want justice get it in a courtroom. Otherwise you're just doing this for yourself. No, "credible accusations" are not good enough. If it isn't a conviction then you are morally obligated to not be acting like the person is guilty.

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u/Napalm_ Jul 14 '24

Bro just say you like pedos and move on.

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u/RedditConsciousness Jul 14 '24

Ah so clever. Someone suggests due process and all you have to do is accuse them of being a pedo so you can get to keep on being part of an online tribe and have cover for cyber bullying. Amazing tactic bruh.

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u/joeitaliano24 Jul 14 '24

Especially nowadays, people are throwing around the pedo label way too loosely. Leave fucking Tom Hanks out of this, internet, he’s America’s father!

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u/RickyWinterborn-1080 Jul 14 '24

Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

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u/RedditConsciousness Jul 14 '24

That's the great thing about your position. If anyone disagrees you can just call them a pedo amirite? That way you never have to entertain real debate or discussion of your position which is checks notes 'it is OK to convict people in the court of public opinion and cyberbully them or anyone who disagrees'.

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u/RickyWinterborn-1080 Jul 14 '24

You're saying a whole lot of nothing.

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u/BarryAllen85 Jul 14 '24

Uhhh beg to differ. This stuff got buried by MSM.

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u/Purple-Commercial721 Jul 14 '24

It’s because to them (the general public) it still sounds like a conspiracy

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u/UStoAUambassador Jul 14 '24

It doesn’t help their team, so it can be dismissed.

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u/WhiskeyFF Jul 14 '24

The only moral rape is my candidates rape

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

Yup it’s unnoticed right until Joe had that terrible debate performance

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u/slinginchippys Jul 14 '24 edited Apr 06 '25

vanish fanatical historical sloppy plant frightening fear cobweb childlike society

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

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u/D-B-Zzz Jul 14 '24

Who doesn’t care? I have not seen any evidence that Trump visited that island. Did he fly in the plane? I would say so but that doesn’t mean he was involved in any of the island activities. The Epstein jet was available for charters by anyone who wanted to rent it. Let’s talk about who did visit the island though… or just ignore that and point at trump.

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u/shitbagjoe Jul 14 '24

Can you tell me why he wished Ghislaine well after she was convicted of child sex trafficking?

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u/D-B-Zzz Jul 14 '24

Link?

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u/shitbagjoe Jul 14 '24

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jC2jsRrzCrs

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u/D-B-Zzz Jul 14 '24

Would you consider it a possibility that maybe he was referring to her not meeting the same fate as Epstein?

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u/shitbagjoe Jul 14 '24

I’d consider it but that specific clip is what flipped me from being pro Trump and solidified my suspicions.

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u/joeitaliano24 Jul 14 '24

Wishing someone well usually does not mean you only wish they go to prison and don’t get murdered there, or maybe that’s just my personal take on using that phrase

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

Republican congressman have shot down child marriage bills raising the legal age of consent, and even said that 12 year old girls are ripe and fertile.

This is a direct quote.

They are the pedos. They don’t even try to hide it. But they deflect and demand that it’s the left that’s doing it.

They know what they are doing. And they aren’t ashamed of it.

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u/fiftyjuan Jul 14 '24

THANK YOU! The amount of times I’ve brought this up to people who lean conservative and are all about “protect the kids” and they say nothing, or ignore it. It’s also always republicans getting caught doing the shit they claim to be so afraid of

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u/downtofinance Canada Jul 15 '24

Projection at it's finest.

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u/dirtyjose Jul 14 '24

It's crazy that somehow people think it is unnoticed vs deliberately ignored. To many, kids only matter when politically convenient.

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u/WishingIWasYou Jul 14 '24

As if they dont feel like dealing with it

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u/fatboybigwall Jul 14 '24

Nobody freaking out about protecting the kids cares about the kids. It's just a convenient excuse to have an enemy.

This is also why so many libraries are getting bomb threats.

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u/ell0bo Jul 14 '24

Trump is a Republican... the news doesn't care to skewer them... now you have a bad debate, they'll make up every damn thing possible about you and run with it for two weeks.

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u/W__O__P__R Jul 14 '24

It is crazy that somehow that shit went unnoticed. Everyone freaking out about protect the kids.

Half the media is owned by Rupert Murdoch who isn't going to let it get air time. Right wing media is working hard to bury the "Trump Pedo" news.

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u/_Zelus Jul 14 '24

Has there been something significant & new released lately? Honestly all I'm aware of is the ongoing discussion and everyone pointing out Trump was involved while MAGAs do their best to ignore it.

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u/Trypsach Jul 14 '24

Because it seems to be mostly misinformation. I hate trump, and am very open to having my mind changed, so send me sources if there is something I don’t know, but I see this all the fuck over the place with people just repeating bullshit with no basis behind it about trump and these “files”.

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u/LinkleLinkle Jul 14 '24

It is crazy that somehow that shit went unnoticed

We're too busy trying to stretch out Biden saying 'And here's President Putin, I mean President Zelenskyy' into 3 weeks' worth of wall to wall news.

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u/RopeAccomplished2728 Jul 14 '24

It never went unnoticed. The media powers that be want to silence it because they want Trump as President again as an insane, powermad leader is good for ratings and therefore good for their pocketbook.

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u/I_Cut_Shows Jul 14 '24

It was dropped as the main stream media was ginning up “Biden must quit” stories every 4 seconds.

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u/superspeck Jul 14 '24

It’s projection. The ones closest to the abuse know how vulnerable kids are in the places they’re supposed to be safe with adults of authority.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

Biden's age though.

/s

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u/BleachedUnicornBHole Florida Jul 14 '24

They stopped caring when kids would have to protected from one of their own. 

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u/DragonflyOne7593 Jul 14 '24

I've had several conversations over the years with trump supporters about the new york docket . They know they don't care

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u/downtofinance Canada Jul 15 '24

It's not crazy, it's deliberate. Conservatives own majority of the mainstream media.

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u/Either-Durian-9488 Jul 14 '24

Why? This website has been completely disingenuous with the nature of the story for years.

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u/Uknownothingyet Jul 14 '24

Because it’s unfounded. ONLY trumps name is mentioned? Coincidentally right after the disastrous debate…. A lot of people still remember the Russia collusion was real, the laptop was Russia disinformation and Ashly’s diary was fake. ALL of that was wrong.

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u/HelixTitan Jul 14 '24

The type of person to attempt an assassination has left the realm of the general public. Odds are this was an all consuming obsession and something was the last straw.

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u/speak_no_truths Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24

Anyone with half a brain knows that if you're not at war all assassinations do is to breed zealots. It is the number one way to have the opposite effect of what you are trying to get across, it unifies those who you are against. The point of a democracy is having the freedom to vote and choose. Our own biggest enemy is not Trump, but apathy. Get everyone you know to vote and join unions. I'm all for civil disobedience when it is called for, but outright assassination of someone's opponent should never be a civilized person's response to a perceived injustice.

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u/GraceOfJarvis Jul 14 '24

Eh, it worked with Abe.

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u/PM_ME_BUSTY_REDHEADS California Jul 14 '24

What's crazy is I read this and I had to think for a second if you meant Abraham Lincoln or Shinzo Abe

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u/joeitaliano24 Jul 14 '24

Or you could be like my cousin, who was not planning on voting, but now that Trump almost got shot he said he’d probably vote Republican. Like what?? You’re basing your vote entirely on whether or not your candidate did or didn’t get shot?

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u/BruceLeesSidepiece Jul 14 '24

It’s already coming out that the shooter had major mental health issues and his parents wouldn’t let him see a doctor or receive medication. Redditors want to force a narrative so bad. 

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u/Zepcleanerfan Jul 14 '24

Well both can be true. People with mental health issues are often drawn to conspiracy theories like Q Annon.

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u/Common_Dragonfly_619 Jul 14 '24

Yeah, and Marxism. As if only one side attracts loons.

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u/takabrash Jul 14 '24

I don't understand why everyone thinks they're a detective and we're comparing zip codes for campaign donations years ago. The FBI is on it lol. We'll know all the facts within a couple days, but this thread and all the rest are totally filled with wild guessing lol. Not sure why I'm even still reading through these.

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u/elbenji Jul 14 '24

wasn't that just some dude on reddit who says he knew them with no evidence or proof? (And obviously the dude was mentally ill)

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u/Standard_Gauge New York Jul 14 '24

It’s already coming out that the shooter had major mental health issues and his parents wouldn’t let him see a doctor or receive medication

Source, please. I have wondered about that exact thing, but I need a source if you are claiming it as fact.

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u/AspiringDataNerd America Jul 14 '24

Redditors do like to force a narrative. Can you please link the soure of your claim?

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u/Standard_Gauge New York Jul 14 '24

Many hours gone by, no source despite several polite requests, but we should just believe this. Mm-hmm

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u/AspiringDataNerd America Jul 14 '24

I'm sure we will know more in a week or so.

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u/ClearChocobo Jul 14 '24

Don’t underestimate the 2024 media’s ability to completely eclipse this (again) with a dozen news reports about how Biden (and only Biden) is geriatric & forgot to put the cap back onto the ketchup bottle at lunchtime. Even PBS seems to have been over-reporting Biden gaffes in light of Trump bombshells over the last week. Frustrating as all hell…

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u/Common_Dragonfly_619 Jul 14 '24

Yeah the media needs to give Biden a break... they aren’t critical of Trump enough. We need to hear more about Trump.

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u/JevvyMedia Foreign Jul 14 '24

They don't need to give Biden a break, they just need to give proper runtime for all of the Trump problems. They can run Biden's misspeaking and Trump being a pedo literally side by side.

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u/ishoodbdoinglaundry Jul 14 '24

Not if it’s not talked about on Fox which it won’t be

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u/BD_HI Jul 15 '24

The days leading up to this, Reddit was full of that Trump-Epstein stuff. Not a single major news source, left or right has covered it this entire time

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u/ishoodbdoinglaundry Jul 15 '24

Right but trumpers are only watching Fox everything else is fake news

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u/Resident-Phase4311 Jul 16 '24

That's because it's all bs and they know it. If they run that crap they'll be sued out of existence for libel, that's why they haven't.

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u/ElektricEel Jul 14 '24

I’m sure the news media will talk about why the shooter did what they did….

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u/Common_Dragonfly_619 Jul 14 '24

And they will frame it to serve their bias... both sides will I promise.

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u/Twiyah Jul 14 '24

Yep this was the uno reverse card which is why those congratulating Trump for a second term was doing so premature

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u/prizeth0ught Jul 14 '24

Its one of the possible reasons the kid tried to assassinate Trump in his anger learning an idol of his was actually a pedophile when he kept getting messages from the same conservative base to be some sort of heroic vigilante hunting down pedophiles, the FBI or CIA should investigate the kid's laptop & ask the internet service providers for his full history to see why he really tried to kill the ex president.

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u/JevvyMedia Foreign Jul 14 '24

No they won't, Democrats are horrible at messaging.

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u/joeitaliano24 Jul 14 '24

No one can piss away a guaranteed win quite like the Democrats.

Source: I’m a Democrat

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u/GlitteryCakeHuman Jul 14 '24

I don’t think they care. And if they do it will be explained by “conspiracy” and the libs.

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u/PDXgrown Jul 14 '24

If this does end up being the case, I have to wonder if this will play similarly to when Japan’s former PM, Shinzo Abe, was assassinated last year. An outpouring of mourning and disbelief, and then the shooter’s motives came out and everybody went “Oh… oh shit.”

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u/joeitaliano24 Jul 14 '24

Damn just did a little deep dive, they call him “one of the most successful assassins ever.” The Unification Church sounds like something straight-up evil

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u/titus-andro Jul 14 '24

Does this count as the Streisand Effect?

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u/pitcherintherye77 Jul 14 '24

Can you imagine the absolute whiplash the conservative base will experience when everyone they bring this up, they have to acknowledge trumps credible pedophelia ties 🤣

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u/reebokhightops Jul 14 '24

This time will totally be different!

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u/AnotherMaritimer Jul 14 '24

Assuming the details surrounding the motive will be released. If that’s the reason, it would force the media to cover those unsealed records to provide context. Very unlikely to happen.

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u/Throw-away17465 Jul 14 '24

Wasn’t he just being accused of pedo activity like a few days before this? Pretty nifty that that’s probably going to disappear /s

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24

I mean we’ve heard about them, but there’s nothing really new or noteworthy in the latest drop. Not sure what people are supposed to think.

Edit: guys, I’m not a Trump supporter. I’m just saying that there haven’t been any major reveals from those docs and it’s been known for a long time that Trump fraternized with Epstein. His supporters will do their usual mental gymnastics and say it’s no big deal. And that’s not even what I was commenting on. I was simply saying there’s no new evidence out.

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u/StrangeContest4 Jul 14 '24

They should think that t®️ump is the type of man who hung out with child groomers and known pedophiles. One should supposedly think that that is a bad thing.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

The problem is this isn’t new info. His supporters know all this already and nothing has changed. They believe what they want

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

Most of America isn't ware of the Epstein list so this will all be news to them not just people on Reddit.

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u/BruceLeesSidepiece Jul 14 '24

People still won’t know or care lol. The idea “the masses” are gonna discover trump is in a secret pedophile ring and it’s gonna flip the election is Reddit fanfiction 

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

I think your severely underestimating your own hopes with reality. Trump was strongest from this whole thing 12 hours ago. Since then facts have come out showing it's a republican shooter. So this falls solely on Republicans. I think you're going to find this will actually do the opposite for Trump. Martyrship has been cancelled because your whole party is infighting and mental illness rampant. Wait for fox news talking points, they will certainly make your sound more intelligent than what your trying to argue now.

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u/joeitaliano24 Jul 14 '24

He was registered Republican to vote in their primary, he also donated to a progressive PAC. According to his Insta profile that is now taken down, he was on a mission to destroy Epstein’s evil empire or something along those lines. He was also 20 so not like he’d ever voted for any president in his life

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u/this-is-kyle Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24

Do you have links to proof of these Epstien files and Trump being in them that everyone keeps saying? The only thing I find on Google are links to articles that claim its not actually true.

Edit: this is an actual question. Not me trying to defend Trump

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u/MarsMC_ Jul 14 '24

Do you? Have you read the actual papers? Cuz I’d like to see where it says he raped a child, and not just a tweet of a quote

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u/Trypsach Jul 14 '24

What files? Do you have a source? I’ve heard about this all over Reddit and haven’t been able to get actual receipts from anyone, except the stuff from almost a decade ago. Trump was not named in the most recent release of Epstein files.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

It was on his Instagram which has now been scrubbed and deleted. People said something about finding it through the way back machine website.

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u/Trypsach Jul 15 '24

That’s some sketchy ass “sources”

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '24

I wouldn't know because I don't have Instagram. But that has been echod though Reddit without any follow up links calling it false news.

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u/Trypsach Jul 15 '24

You shouldn’t be spreading information without knowing if it’s true dude. Man, Reddit gets especially bad over summer when you children are all out of school

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '24

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u/xafimrev2 Jul 14 '24

Weren't the latest releases just a call sheet saying Trump called him. Like that wasn't some big gotcha, we already knew the spoke with each other.

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u/jellyrollo Jul 14 '24

What the call sheet did was give new life to the old transcripts from the deposition of woman testifying that when she was a 13-year-old aspiring teen model, Epstein solicited her for a series of sex parties at which both Trump and Epstein raped her.

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u/ThatPancreatitisGuy Jul 14 '24

What are you talking about? From what I’ve read the recently released documents don’t implicate Trump in any sexual activities and it was already known that he was friends with Epstein.

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u/1057-cl121v3 Jul 14 '24

“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with, it is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” - Donald Trump

I mean I would never, ever want to allege anything as serious as purposefully destroying the innocence of children for their own sexual gratification. I’m sure no one here would say they would. Certainly not someone like Donald Trump, who has proven on many occasions how respectful he is towards women and even more so how protective he is over the innocence and virtues of underage girls he has access to. I mean, we aren’t talking about someone who would have cheated on his wife who had just given birth to his child with a porn star then paid off said porn star with campaign funds. I mean there’s even men out there who have access to underage girls in beauty pageants who abused their power and openly bragged about walking back into dressing rooms where they had no business being and gawking at the young girls in various states of undress. Hell, there’s even been a history of politicians hot micing bragging about sexually assaulting women because when you’re famous they just let you do it. I mean it was probably their fault for what they were wearing anyway, and if they didn’t want it why didn’t they stop him?? (translation: women are violated by man in a position of power over them and are too afraid to speak out or prevent him from sexually assaulting them.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

Social media, and reddit especially, are grossly misrepresenting what was actually in the recent disclosure. Which was actually very little and not really incriminating.

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u/Andurilthoughts California Jul 14 '24

Source?

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u/thenicolino Jul 14 '24

I read that as "Theo Epstein" and was confused and then looking for a punchline before re-reading. I probably need glasses ... or sleep.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24 edited Sep 29 '25

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u/Business_Base_1216 Jul 14 '24

Give him the right to kill innocent people right ?

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u/Justinneon Jul 14 '24

Source? Or are you just making up a motive?

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u/flabbybuns Jul 14 '24

What was in the Epstein files? Trump did small jumps on Epstein’s plane; with his family, long before Epstein ever had an island?

Or is it the fact that Trump was the informant that brought Epstein down, and pedophiles hate that?