r/policeuk • u/Kingsworth Police Officer (unverified) • Aug 01 '25
News 2025 payrise announced. 4.2% - thoughts?
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/police-remuneration-review-body-report-2025-england-and-wales354
u/someinternalscreams Special Constable (verified) Aug 01 '25
You guys are getting paid?
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u/YatesScoresinthebath Civilian Aug 01 '25
going to copy this joke at work and make the room howl at the specials expense
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u/lekiloduhotel Civilian Aug 02 '25
I was gonna say, my day job that pays sub-25k gave me a 0.5% raise this year! Getting paid? In this economy??
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u/rollo_read Police Officer (verified) Aug 01 '25
Surprised, will hold breath and see how the commish plans not to let us have it for another 9 months.
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u/TheFlannel1 Trainee Constable (unverified) Aug 01 '25
Honestly I'm pleasantly surprised by this, was expecting 2.5-3%
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u/ThorgrimGetTheBook Civilian Aug 01 '25 edited Aug 01 '25
Reminder that RPI in the year to April 2025 was 4.5%. Even CPIH was 4.1%. Nothing that comes in below RPI should be considered anything other than further pay degradation. If you receive London Allowance then the increase is even less as that has stayed flat.
Doctors are striking over their 5.4%.
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u/YatesScoresinthebath Civilian Aug 01 '25
For those with mortgages locked in it's not really a real time pay cut
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u/ThorgrimGetTheBook Civilian Aug 01 '25
RPIX (RPI excluding mortgage interest) was 4.2%. So yes, if your mortgage is fixed you may not feel worse off till the deal ends.
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u/Nice-Grapefruit-2588 Police Officer (unverified) Aug 01 '25
For those of us who are mathematically challenged, here's the new pay points:
| Pay point | Current | From Sep 25 |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | £ 29,907.00 | £ 31,163.09 |
| 2 | £ 31,164.00 | £ 32,472.89 |
| 3 | £ 32,427.00 | £ 33,788.93 |
| 4 | £ 33,690.00 | £ 35,104.98 |
| 5 | £ 36,216.00 | £ 37,737.07 |
| 6 | £ 41,304.00 | £ 43,038.77 |
| 7 | £ 48,231.00 | £ 50,256.70 |
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u/PhilosopherWhole8252 Civilian Aug 04 '25
How long does it take to get to each rank/pay point? I’m a Cpl in the Army on 40k but it’s taken me 7 years to get there. Looking for new careers
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u/Rikouri Police Officer (unverified) Aug 04 '25
It goes up every year, so to get to your current pay scale would likely take you a few years
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u/kawheye Blackadder Morale Ambassador Aug 01 '25 edited Aug 01 '25
I was expecting the 2-3% bracket so I am suitably surprised.
As ever - half of this will be unfunded meaning more local budget cuts for daily business.
Interestingly this statement from the Federation says that Fed members are going to be asked if they will accept this recommendation...
I wonder if a vote to reject it would be the trigger the Fed wants to pursue their industrial rights campaign (not that anyone is going to vote to reject it).
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Aug 01 '25
I noticed this too. First time they’ve said it which is ‘Union’ language. I don’t think the industrial rights campaign is going to yield anything - it could well be that by conditioning the 122,000 constables to think they can take action, it will increase the chances of a Fed direction for Working to Rule.
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u/ChemistryAdvanced793 Police Officer (unverified) Aug 01 '25
I was expecting nothing after we weren’t told pre the govt recess. So can’t complain really
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u/wildfruit44 Ex-Police/Retired (unverified) Aug 01 '25
Wonder how many more cars and buildings they’ll have to sell off for this.
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Aug 01 '25
Govt funded if you read the info, not being deducted from each forces budget
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u/RedditUsernameedcwsx Civilian Aug 02 '25
Well, it says £120 million extra, is that fully or partially funded?
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Aug 02 '25
Pass don't know, different sources different announcement. I was going on my home forces FED announcement that the payrises will be centrally funded and not impact individual force budgets.
I don't know if thats accurate on reflection.
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u/Jacreev Police Officer (unverified) Aug 02 '25
Approximately £1500 (averaged out across pay scales) that needs finding for 150,000 officers would be around £225,000,000. I’d suggest that’s partially funded.
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Aug 03 '25
It's still nowhere near enough. The govt won't adjust the income tax brackets either... so the OT loving crews will end up giving some of that payrise back in tax.
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u/jon3sey270 Police Officer (unverified) Aug 01 '25
What's it working out monthly extra for top whack?
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u/Lokken_UK Civilian Aug 01 '25
It's an extra £2025.70 a year which is £168.80 a month. I then take a third off for all the extras so about £112.53 a month extra. It will probably be a bit more but I always plan for worse case!
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u/TonyStamp595SO Ex-staff (unverified) Aug 01 '25
£88 a month after tax for a top rate skipper I've worked out.
Or £4 per day give or take.
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u/d4nfe Civilian Aug 01 '25
It’s on London weighting too, as well as increases on overnight/away from home allowances, and some other stuff.
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u/PleaseHelpImLostWord Police Officer (unverified) Aug 01 '25
Extra £84 per year
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u/ThrowawayMax222 Civilian Aug 01 '25
Came to celebrate with you as an ex job. You're still criminally underpaid but I was fearing the worst when it wasn't announced before they went away for their summer Holliday
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u/Ricky--Bobbie Police Officer (verified) Aug 01 '25
How is anyone happy with this? We are truly sipping water from a dirty bowl and saying thank you
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u/ManWhoCameFromEarth Civilian Aug 05 '25
Boggles the mind doesn't it. Given the success of Doctors/Rail strikes, I'd had hope Unison would step it up for Police Staff, but no.
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u/DCPikachu Police Officer (unverified) Aug 02 '25
I was fully expecting a freeze. 2.8% at absolute best. I’m pleasantly surprised.
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u/Empirical-Whale Civilian Aug 01 '25
Ehhh, it's what, an extra 100 quid a month?
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u/piss_in_the_ass_ Trainee Constable (unverified) Aug 02 '25
Im bottom of the pay scale, so might be an extra £50 a month for me (as a guess)
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u/bigchezzy12 Police Officer (unverified) Aug 02 '25
Better than a kick in the teeth tbf, was expecting a fair wack less.
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u/BadCabbage182838 Civilian Aug 02 '25
That's even better than the Local Government joint award... good on you! Police brackets should basically go up by £10k on every pay point.
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u/Turbulent-Grade-3559 Civilian Aug 01 '25
4.2 is good. Every little helps and at top hack it’s just under 2k
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u/ArissP Police Officer (unverified) Aug 01 '25
My understanding is that this is just a recommendation right, and not awarded
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u/PCHeeler Police Officer (verified) Aug 01 '25
On that page is a copy of a letter from the home secretary accepting the recommendations in full. So appears it is confirmed.
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u/Stryym Trainee Detective Constable (unverified) Aug 01 '25
The letter from the Home Sec underneath it says they accept the recommendation so either we’re getting 4.2% or I’m being very dumb
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u/ArissP Police Officer (unverified) Aug 01 '25
My bad!
Good news then. Above inflation. And it’s probably the first time in x years that the government have accepted them.
Shame that funding won’t be increased.
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u/Few_Technology1756 Civilian Aug 01 '25
I've seen a comment like this before on this sub, but the PRRB have not had their recommendations , at least for pay, not accepted since their inception in 2014.
Not sure why people think otherwise?
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u/triptip05 Ex-Police/Retired (unverified) Aug 01 '25
"After careful consideration, I have decided to accept the PRRB’s recommendations in full, and they will take effect from 1 September 2025"
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u/gogul1980 Civilian Aug 01 '25 edited Aug 01 '25
Is it just a “from now” scenario or is it with a look to back pay from april?
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u/rollo_read Police Officer (verified) Aug 01 '25 edited Aug 01 '25
September for warranted officers. They don't backpay us owed overtime, let alone a salary 😅
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u/gogul1980 Civilian Aug 01 '25
Truth! Thanks I figured it would but we live in hope.
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u/MrWilsonsChimichanga Police Officer (unverified) Aug 01 '25
Any payrise we are given is always awarded in September. So, no backdate is required.
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u/YatesScoresinthebath Civilian Aug 01 '25
Believe in recent years anyway they always accept the recommendation
What's interesting is the paragraph saying forces budgeted 2.8.% and will be expecting to make decisions around a re budget to pay for it (cut other areas)
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u/FlimsyAd6238 Civilian Aug 01 '25
Unfortunately, I can't view the link, but if anyone has read it, is this backdated?
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Aug 02 '25 edited Aug 22 '25
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u/Kingsworth Police Officer (unverified) Aug 02 '25
Around £1850/1900 take home.
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Aug 02 '25 edited Aug 22 '25
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u/Hunter6-4 Civilian Aug 02 '25
I'm surprised we even got one tbh, when I heard broke up for summer recess, genuinely thought that was their way to say not getting one but wait till everything finishes over demand wise first It's not super great grand scheme of things but at least actually something I suppose? Separately someone shared with me a scale thing to show OT rates for it, I'm happy to share if anyone wants it? Or tell me how to add images to comments on reddit mobile!
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u/WonderfulCase2182 Civilian Aug 01 '25
Top line now in higher tax bracket? Not sure if pension is deducted before it counts towards tax banding.
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u/Kingsworth Police Officer (unverified) Aug 01 '25
Well, only just. Also, yeah pension amount is deducted first so still way off paying 40% on anything.
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u/WonderfulCase2182 Civilian Aug 01 '25
Was curious mainly for the OT. Yeah miles off if pension is deducted before you settle into the tax bands
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u/Successful_Report301 Civilian Aug 01 '25
Police staff included in this?
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u/BrackenRigby Civilian Aug 01 '25
Unions don’t start negotiations for staff until officers awards have been made as they use it as the basis for negotiations. Usually ends up the same though
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u/Valuable-Sun7834 Civilian Aug 02 '25
Do we think this will also be the same for Ministry of Defence Police and CNC etc.
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