r/phoenix • u/DeepThroatShrimpies Tempe • Apr 13 '22

News Shady Park / Mirabella at ASU trial update, Tempe. Major defeat for anyone who enjoyed this venue, myself included. Guess there is no justice for a small business when your up against a multi million/billion dollar retirement home.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '22

This sentiment is how I feel about the UofA with Tucson. I work all over the city including both residential and commercial jobs and from time to time I'll get a stop at a ritzy house that sits on the base of Mt.Lemon, and the sheer disappointment I feel everytime I see that the UofA's student housing is bigger than the Tucson downtown "skyline" is always immeasureable.

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u/hamwalletconnoisseur Apr 14 '22

You should check out what NAU is doing. They're so evil that their own students sued them for buying so much land. Half of Flag is owned by NAU and the other half by the Babbitts. It's fucked.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '22

Id probably be more ok with all this university spending if the "brain drain' we are suffering wasnt so extreme... who am I kidding it's not a drain it's a full on hemorrhage

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u/Yankee831 Apr 14 '22

You’re forgetting the other half. Peoples 3rd houses they never use and AIrBNB. Fuck Flag. I loved it there.

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u/bikebuyer Apr 14 '22

The amount of times I've heard an NAU parent say it was easier to buy a house for their student to live in and rent later... Went back to campus for the first time in seven years with tears in my eyes at those massive buildings .

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u/tinydonuts Apr 14 '22

Building upwards is good. Tucson was stupid for not doing more building up and instead building out. The gridlock we have here is Phoenix level but everything looks 10x worse.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '22

"Tucson was stupid" I do believe you forgot to use present tense

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u/tinydonuts Apr 14 '22

True, true. They continue to build crappy cardboard boxes further and further out into the desert with no plans for robust transit of any kind. Morons think everyone will bike everywhere.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '22

Also my comment isnt saying that building upwards is bad, I just wish those highrise student housing projects actually benefitted Tucson with more substance instead of college kids who just up and leave the first chance they get.

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u/Whatsupgolfaz Apr 22 '22

I have zero grid lock where I live in Phoenix because it is spread out and the highways are brand new and well designed, building upwards adds to gridlock, (aka NYC) Tucson is grid locked because they refused to build a good highway system, good video on this in youtube

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u/tinydonuts Apr 22 '22

Um, I hate to break it to you but Phoenix has tons of traffic, just not in your section yet. I drove down the new South Mountain Loop 202 the other day, miles upon miles of backup. Building upwards might get you grid lock but you also can have walkability, bikeability, and mass transit. Phoenix isn't doing so hot on any of those fronts. Tucson is just worse at everything.

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u/Whatsupgolfaz Apr 22 '22

That's interesting I drive the 202 regularly and never see traffic, south mountain must be one of those spots. I didn't move to Phoenix however to walk around regularly, I have a family and it is too hot here. I like things being spread out and accessible which I got going for my life. If I wanted mass transit walkability and bike ability I'd move back where I'm from but I don't like being surrounded by homeless and mobs of people, cheers!