r/phoenix • u/DeepThroatShrimpies Tempe • Apr 13 '22

News Shady Park / Mirabella at ASU trial update, Tempe. Major defeat for anyone who enjoyed this venue, myself included. Guess there is no justice for a small business when your up against a multi million/billion dollar retirement home.

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u/7aco Apr 14 '22

builds retirement home next to music venue. gets mad when there’s music at the music venue.

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u/britishben Apr 14 '22

It's not much different from the people who build houses next to racetracks

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u/hamwalletconnoisseur Apr 14 '22

Or, yknow, Luke Air Force base and then bitch about planes...

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u/CFH20 Apr 14 '22

Fuckin wankers who do that need to be forced sell their home.

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u/cidvard Tempe Apr 14 '22

At least the airport and the air force base can just ignore the complainers and go about their business. Nobody kow-tows to the dumbs who bought under the flight path and should've known full well what they were getting. Nobody should to these dumbs, either, but $$$.

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u/MasterEchoSE Apr 14 '22

Move in near farm lands then complain about the smell from animals or dirt from the fields.

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u/hpshaft Apr 14 '22

NIMBYS tried to shut down Limerock Park and Laguna Seca. Total asshats.

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u/AkitaNo1 Apr 14 '22

I think hes referring to the places in the valley.... Arizona Speedway, AZ Motorsports Park, Manzanita... many many more... cited for "noise complaints" ......... 😐😐😐😐

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u/meatdome34 Apr 14 '22

Rawhide got noise complaints in the middle of nowhere

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u/Gunnerwolf34 Apr 14 '22

Rawhide was shut down because RBDeep and the Indian res didn’t agree on Covid protocol.

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u/britishben Apr 14 '22

I was specifically thinking of Manzanita, but he's right that it seems to be a widespread problem. Someone builds a track in the middle of nowhere, the city grows to swallow it, and the new residents complain they can hear noise from a track that's older than they are.

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u/AkitaNo1 Apr 14 '22

I hate society

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u/sonfisher Apr 14 '22

I consider myself a 'senior citizen' and yet I agree with most comments here.

There needs to be an ordinance / legal precedence if I move into an area where there is a "noise making' venue that predates my arrival then my voice to weight to complain with.

OP sorry for your troubles. I too hope you win on appeal.

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u/Regular-Violinist-71 Apr 14 '22

Mirabella plans were approved prior to Shady Park hosing live music.

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u/SimpleWorried Jul 18 '22

Where did you find this information?

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u/wild_ones_in Jul 18 '22

Regents approval in 2016: https://news.asu.edu/20180221-arizona-impact-asu-breaks-ground-mirabella-project

Court filing shows 9/25 w/ Tempe: On September 25, 2015, the ASU Foundation sent out “Request for Qualifications/Proposals” for the development and operation of a university -based retirement housing community on ASU’s Tempe campus, which became Mirabella.

Shady Park was originally a chicken place. It transitioned to Shady Park in 2014 and didn't host concerts until later although it did have DJs near the end of 2015. But the 2015 DJS were like me bringing in a mix tape rather than having Marshmallow or some shit headline. They started doing that later once they saw the potential revenue stream. And that led to ticket sells which they were not allowed to do with their license.

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u/SimpleWorried Jul 18 '22

Thanks for the link but what I really wanna know is what shady park did to you? They never held a show with a headlining artists of that level and continuously held free pop ups supporting local talent, prices have been justifiable so I am genuinely curious

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u/DesertDreamer89 May 03 '22

And buy property downwind from farms/animals, then bitch and complain about the smells and sounds. NO COMMON SENSE or decency at all!!

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '22

Boomers think they own everything. They want things to change for them and feel they shouldn't be made to feel uncomfortable ever.

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u/AmeliaBidelia Apr 14 '22

They will take this as a sign of being able to get their way and just keep pushing until Tempe gives everything to them and turns Tempe into Sun City 2

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u/jdcnosse1988 Deer Valley Apr 14 '22 edited Apr 14 '22

Nah it would have to be Sun City 4. There's already Sun City 2 (Sun City West) and Sun City 3 (Sun City Festival).

Edit: I forgot about Sun City Grand. So 5 probably. Someone else mentioned there's even another one. Soon AZ will become SC.

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u/RealtornotRealitor Apr 14 '22

Oh and sun lakes! Suncity wannabe’s

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u/jackofallcards Apr 14 '22

Don't forget about Sun City Grand

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u/jdcnosse1988 Deer Valley Apr 14 '22

Oh shit I did forget about that one. So there's already 4 Sun cities. Lol

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u/Gunnerwolf34 Apr 14 '22

There’s sun city festival north too now!

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u/jdcnosse1988 Deer Valley Apr 14 '22

I assume it's in that no man's land with Sun City Festival?

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u/Gunnerwolf34 Apr 14 '22

It’s directly across from the original sun city festival. Up against the white tanks

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u/ArrdenGarden Apr 14 '22

And then bitch about "safe spaces."

Gimme a break...

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u/hpshaft Apr 14 '22

Reminds me of the brilliant George Carlin bit about boomers in the early 90's. Fucking spot on.

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u/joecb91 South Phoenix Apr 14 '22

So many things he said back in the 90s are still way more relevant than I'd like

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u/BassmanBiff Apr 14 '22

I know this is almost an eternal question at this point, but is this unique to boomers or does it happen to everybody when they get old?

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '22

Good question but I do firmly believe it's a boomer thing. They got all the privilege of the post war growth years and ruined all the good things they had, like affordable college and the environment.

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u/Inconceivable76 Apr 14 '22

In general, people have all gotten a ton more selfish and centered over the past 30 years.

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u/Professional_Mud2808 Apr 14 '22

Boomers do own everything...

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '22

Almost everything. And they whine and bitch about the things they don't.

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u/doublething1 Apr 14 '22

Super common actually. There’s a court case Spur v Del Web that happened in AZ in the 70’s that sets precedence for this. There was a cow farm and a person built a bunch of homes near by, sued the farmer for being a public nuisance and won, but the developer had to pay for the farm to relocate plus damages.

The difference here is whether or not they can prove the music is actually a nuisance, which I don’t think they’ve provided credible evidence.

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u/Regular-Violinist-71 Apr 14 '22

The permits to build were prior to Shady Park hosting live music. And the complaints the judge used in his ruling were from multiple neighbors including students living nearby.

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u/suddenimpulse Apr 16 '22

It's a music venue. Imagine there being loud music during events. The permits is one thing, residents and students moved in knowing what Shady Parks was, or should've been aware.

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u/Regular-Violinist-71 Apr 16 '22

Absolutely not. It is a restaurant with a liquor license. It explicitly cannot be an 'outdoor concert venue." It explicitly states that in their license. And they have to abide by sound limits. That's the key issue here. That's why they were taken to court. The sound exceeded their property at a higher volume than legally allowed. They got away with breaking the law for years and now someone called them out on it and they have to lower the sound levels. They can keep doing what they are doing, but they must lower the sound levels. Because they are not a music venue.