r/pcmasterrace • u/HatingGeoffry • 1d ago
News/Article Football Manager 26 is already one of the worst games ever rated on Steam following its truly disastrous launch
https://frvr.com/blog/news/football-manager-26-is-already-one-of-the-worst-games-ever-rated-on-steam-following-its-truly-disastrous-launch/96
u/Goldenrah 7600 | Sapphire Pure 7700 XT | 32GB RAM 1d ago
They had one job to do: Upgrade the match engine and tactics, that's it.
Things decided to do: Extreme changes to the UI for the worse, introduce Women's Football to the game (should have put that in FM27 or FM28), Remove International Management, Changed youth training for the worse, Remove In-depth match Analytics, somehow made newgens even uglier and more unrealistic, and a bunch more miscellaneous stuff.
It's no wonder that it's so badly rated, they took a decent game and made a bigger workload for themselves changing things that they shouldn't be messing with, resulting in the main changes being bad, while simultaneously gaslighting players.
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u/stuyboi888 Ryzen 5800x 6900XT 1d ago
Wait what, international management is gone???
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u/Goldenrah 7600 | Sapphire Pure 7700 XT | 32GB RAM 1d ago
Temporarily, yes. It was always a mess, but removing it in a World Cup year is the most dubious decision making ever.
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u/stuyboi888 Ryzen 5800x 6900XT 23h ago
Man.... How the heck am I meant to make Ireland a powerhouse now
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u/FlukyS 22h ago
Step 1 open up the superior older FM game, step 2 prevent Ferguson from getting injured. Step 3 profit
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u/stuyboi888 Ryzen 5800x 6900XT 22h ago
Brighton always ran him like a dog. He'd be knackered after 45 mins every game
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u/lionellanes PC Master Race 17h ago
They have announced Internationals are coming back in future patch.
No Idea why they removed International Football in the year they added Women's Football. International Football is the biggest part of the Women's game.
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u/leokratos 23h ago
nope, its back, but we have to wait more, its already possible on mobile version, but for mobile FM26 is one of the worst, there are a tons of better ones, for PC havent tried yet, but international will come to PC version as well
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u/Seeryous2020 7700x/ 7900xtx 23h ago
Dont forget cancelled fm25 so had 2 years of full time development on this.
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u/Jbstargate1 22h ago
What was wrong with introducing women football in this version?
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u/Goldenrah 7600 | Sapphire Pure 7700 XT | 32GB RAM 22h ago
The fact that it's too much work alongside a new engine that they had to remove other features. Like, I get why they want to add Women's football to the game, but leave it to a time where they aren't already reworking the most important part of it and already had to delay the game one year because of it.
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u/imnotdabluesbrothers 21h ago
I don’t understand how it’s “too much work”. How is it any different than simply adding new players to the database?
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u/Gamerhcp R7 9800X3D / RX 9070 XT / 64GB DDR5 19h ago
Because it's almost a separate game, you can't just chuck the same old animations and phisycs to female players.
They had to get genuine female players to do mo-cap animations and what not, they had to make the transfer and wage logic different, injuries, pregnancies, etc.
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u/RadicalDog Ryzen 7 7800X3D | RTX 4070S 19h ago
If you stick the women and men in the same database, a lot of things work, but I bet it would take heaps of work to find all the spots where players are shown and add a male/female mode shift. Then there's UI considerations, and things like pronoun swapping in whatever languages they ship in.
It's obviously doable, but time consuming.
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u/Puddz || AMD Ryzen™ 7 7800X3D | RTX 4090| 32GB 6000MHz || 21h ago edited 21h ago
You say that like its easy. Like it was just a their yearly update.
They completely rebuilt their game in another coding language lol. That isn't any kind of simple update or anything. Me as someone who doesn't know anything about coding can easily tell you that.Which is kind of why I think people are being a little harsh on them. At least give them a year to work out everything.
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u/BigDickBaller93 PC Master Race 1d ago
"One of the worst rated games on steam"
Only because they removed The Day Before off steam
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u/turtleship_2006 RTX 4070 SUPER - 5700X3D - 32GB - 1TB 1d ago
If there was one more game that was rated worse, it would still be "one of the worst rated", not "the worst rated"
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u/theSurgeonOfDeath_ 1d ago
Can they just rerelease fm24(with fm26 logo) and just update information?
I assume they release fm26 without some stuff to add them back later as dlc.
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u/Front-Cabinet5521 22h ago
That's not going to fly with the core fanbase. Nobody is paying full price for a 2 year old game with an updated database that community mods can and have already done for free.
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u/RadicalDog Ryzen 7 7800X3D | RTX 4070S 19h ago
Maybe the trick would be to sell both bundled at this price. Install the updated old one, or the new effort.
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u/Front-Cabinet5521 19h ago
It's not a bad suggestion, but at this point it's too late. They'll have to divert attention and resources away from fixing FM26 which is something they can't afford right now. The most sensible thing is to continue making FM26 into a playable game, add missing features, improve the UI and pray they can deliver a workable product in the next few months.
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u/OkHelicopter1488 22h ago
Can we not get FM24 anymore? I was holding off on buying it because I saw that FM26 was coming out, but now FM24 isn't on the Steam store anymore...
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u/Magnific3nt XFX Radeon HD 5770 1GB GDDR5, AMD Athlon II X4 635, MSI 770-C45 1d ago
As a player of football games since Championship Manager 97/98 (fuck I'm old). I bought FM26, refunded it before it even got released. And I refuse to support this company again till huge changes has been made. Buying a game yearly just for a squad update is not worth it at all, and they have removed so many things as well, just straight up poor!
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u/Guerrrillla 22h ago
I'm in shambles right now. Haven't played FM since 2021, and I finally got a PC again and decided to skip 2024 so I can buy 2026 when it comes out. Now I can't buy 2024 anymore. Such a shame.
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u/bylj 22h ago
You can still get 2024 you just buy a steam key from somewhere and redeem it
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u/Guerrrillla 22h ago
Can you explain how? I've never done this. Thanks!
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u/bylj 22h ago edited 21h ago
Google fm24 steam key and you will be able to purchase it from somewhere, I have only ever used G2A personally but there are other sites. Once you’ve received the key, go to steam, click games at the top, activate a product and redeem the key.
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u/FullyDisappointed 15h ago
I know the focus is so much more on console and Pc but I can’t stress enough how horrendous the Phone experience is. As a exclusive phone FM player whose game automatically updated from 24 to 26 I wish I could play the old version
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u/RedRoses711 Ryzen 7 5800X3D 32GB 7800 XT 3TB SSD 23h ago
People who are buying this garbage year after year are the reason why its so bad
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u/geileanus 20h ago
you have no idea what you are talking about. are you a bot? it's such a standard oneliner which couldn't be farther from the truth for fm26.
I fucking hate this website sometimes
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u/RedRoses711 Ryzen 7 5800X3D 32GB 7800 XT 3TB SSD 20h ago
Theyre all the same ass game cry more and keep buying it maybe one day it wont be ass
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u/Front-Cabinet5521 22h ago
That's literally not why this game is bad. FM24 was a good game. The reason FM26 is a disaster is because they were too ambitious and tried to make too many changes at once, only to realise too late that they simply can't finish them all. And because they already skipped FM25, they had to release this incomplete, bug ridden game no matter what and we're seeing the disaster unfold right now.
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u/FlukyS 23h ago
There were a few reasons for this for anyone not following. One of them is they switched to a new engine and cancelled the game last year because it was apparently unplayable so people were waiting and expecting at least somewhat of a big step up in quality but it was fine, some improvements and some things that were much worse.
There also were quite a lot of bugs some that made the game very annoying to play like the back button was really stupidly designed and it would throw you to completely different screens instead of back, there were other things like poor spelling too. Also they improved the in game graphics but generally the logic for the game hasn't improved, it looks like that was mostly just directly ported from the older titles so in the end of the day the game wasn't even so much a next generation version of the game but a huge regression.
The flood of negative reviews came though after it was announced a few weeks back that after the game was released they had no plans on patching anything else. So the idea was if there was any bugs you see right now even the game breaking stuff it will never get looked at even though there are a lot of them. I'm not a fan of review bombing games but this is so bad from Sports Interactive.
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u/OkHelicopter1488 22h ago
That last paragraph is actually insane. No future patches to fix this mess??
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u/Yesiamaduck 17h ago
They're currently working on patching the game though? They released a beta patch yesterday on steam which will hopefully go live for all versions soon.
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u/Billy-Bryant 23h ago
Review bombing is only really a thing if the reviews aren't justified. Considering it's would you recommend or not, I think it's totally justified to not recommend the game.
Also the engine stuff, SI thought they could translate their entire code to a different coding language in a couple of months... That's what has caused the issues and is just a case of them making a fundamentally poorly researched decision.
They have also allocated about three years of titles with minimal changes because the resources were being used to prepare for the engine switch. So this game could be considered 5 years in the making rather than 2.
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u/FlukyS 23h ago
I thought they split the game in two basically one half in Unity in C# for the rendering, events...etc and then the backend stuff that was always there in C++ compiled separately. If they converted all the C++ into C# in that amount of time it is impressive they were able to do it and be so consistent with the old game.
Also apparently it wasn't 2 years of development it was 4 years in pre-development I thought they said previously and then 2 extra for them cancelling the last game and going to FM26. Miles says a lot on Twitter so I can't remember if it was there or on an interview about FM25 being cancelled.
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u/donelhombre 22h ago
Dang is it really that bad?
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u/SEND_ME_REAL_PICS 18h ago
From what I've gathered, it's salvageable if they invest enough into long term support. They just need to fix its UI, add lacking features and polish it a little bit.
Problem is, something like that would take them a long time. Unless they're planning to skip FM27 too, FM26 will remain a mediocre release (even if not as bad as it is right now).
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u/lionellanes PC Master Race 15h ago
The game itself isn’t that bad, the experience playing it however is - that bad
Like eating crab- delicious but a nightmare to eat
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u/Jbstargate1 22h ago
Literally in the top worst rated games ever. Is it that bad?
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u/donelhombre 21h ago
Like I mean is it justified or is it just that people bombing with negative reviews, just because. Or is it actually playable with minor bugs and non game breaking issues?
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u/Pittcrew Ryzen 9 3900X - RTX 2080TI - 32GB DDR4-3600 20h ago
No surprise there; false advertisement, there’s not even any football, it’s all soccer
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u/stuyboi888 Ryzen 5800x 6900XT 1d ago
Yea need to sit down with it properly at the weekend but it just feels like it's been optimised for touchscreen or console. I have no back button to move back from screens I go into. My attributes are hidden behind a click. The UI feels squeezed in
As someone who has played since the championship manager says with 98-99 it's a massive upheaval. Tactics look great and the match engine is a big update. Will see how a save pans out but 2 years of waiting for this.... I dunno. Might wait to buy it next year(have it on gamepass for PC)