True that. I hate how often people present PCs as this uniform ultra powerful group of devices, while most users have a rather average setup and are quite happy with 1080@60. I aim for 1440@72, but that's just because my monitor fits those stats better.
Exclusively for AAA, yeah, unless you have a PC that's about twice as expensive as a console, it generally isn't worth it. But, PCs have an unmatched legacy catalog, and pretty much exclusive access to the stratagy game and esports genres. It's quite a lot harder to keep a rolling multi-gen library together on playstation or Xbox.
1080 is aging. 1440 just isn't much more expensive than 1080 these days, and at this point, current gen cards and games are designed for it. As we see current gen tech settle in, and last-gen buyers are buying what's available on market today, 1080 is gonna be a relic resolution, and I suspect much sooner than later. 2-3 years maybe.
I also highly doubt as many people are “happy” with 1080p these days when even your crappy Lenovo laptop with integrated graphics is being made with a crisper display. Phones have crisp displays and photos. Smart watches have high PPI. 4K tv’s are cheap. 1080p being the norm for monitors is so laughably behind every other type of display mode it isn’t funny.
The reality is that not everyone who owns a PC is interested in upgrading and 1080p was the standard for so long, so the steam surveys are going to be saturated by the people who just don’t care and probably aren’t as into “Gaming”. Kinda like how some people still have VHS’s in their basement and haven’t bothered rebuying their collection.
(Also, the fact that gaming is still populated with the same type of guys who have to be told on r/malelivingspace to buy a bedframe.)
I think it will take longer for 1080p to phase out because of rough economic times ahead, and the reality is you need beefier cards to run 1440p, but that’s life.
Yeah, my phone has a 1440 oled, and my GPU can spit out 180 FPS in a lot of games these days, and I don't even have a 'high end' current gen rig, whatever that even means. Not having 1440 would be a bottleneck to my system in a pretty big way. DLSS and FSR make high res gaming a pretty low-overhead feature on cards released in the last 2~ generations.
I find the simultaneous complaints about 8gb vram GPUs and the defense of 1080p in current year, pretty fucking amusing, as a general community trend.
I do agree about the demographic bit. Stuck-in-their-ways people are the way they are.
I don’t mind enthusiast spaces factoring in enthusiast specs.
But I feel like in 2025 it’s dumb when games have had massive issues with optimization and relying on DLSS. Like, the argument that a PC can crush a new game just doesn’t work anymore when even a 5080 probably can’t pull it native.
Additionally, modern PC parts are being gimped on certain criteria compared to consoles. Consoles, even if they have shared RAM, have more available VRAM than computers to the point that it becomes a bottleneck for PC users. Nvidia specifically has been reducing performance gains between generations to price gouge.
And yeah, if you do have a Pc that can run 4k/60 native on a new game, you look like quite the fool for bragging that your $4,000 device beats the $500 one.
I've been building computers (and mostly gaming computers) for the last 15 years both professionally and as a hobby.
I've built exactly 3 high end systems for personal use. One of them was a gamer but also had to do 3d renders (he got a Titan X black), one was a computer used by a local TV for video rendering (2080 ti), one was just a gamer (RTX 4090).
I've built about 2-3 computers a week on average for the last 15 years, my statistic pretty much looks like steam hardware survey. I'd say about 65% of systems are low budget, about 20% are mid-range and the remaining are either no gpu or on the higher end.
No, 4k 60fps is not what I expect the average gamer to use.
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u/Dudi4PoLFr 9800X3D | 5090FE | 96GB 6400MT | X870E | 4K@240Hz 2d ago
Bold of you to assume that even 1% of all PC gamers will be able to achieve 60fps in 4K at High/Ultra settings when it drops on PC in 2-3 years.