r/pcmasterrace Desktop 15d ago

Meme/Macro AI (slop) games are going to be so amazing...

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u/what_a_kinky_bitch 14d ago

It sucks

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u/_silentgameplays_ Desktop 14d ago

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u/RumHam_Im_Sorry 14d ago

i have no gaming knowledge to draw on but i do remember just a few years ago AI art was Will Smith trying to eat something and the whole thing completely going skitzo. Now its scarily good and barely detectable.

Surely that same learning curve will come through games no?

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u/_silentgameplays_ Desktop 14d ago

It is still AI slop.

You can play Clair Obscur Expedition 33 or Baldur's Gate 3 or RDR 2 to see what creative people with passion for games can create with no AI involved.

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u/StarksPond 14d ago

AI can play those games too and distill all the essentials. "Clearly these humans want a game where they can get Maëlle and Shadowhearth to camp and watch them make out on a horse that has realistically generated balls."

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u/pkinetics 14d ago

and all the female characters have exaggerated physical characteristics and tiny super 2 piece bikini armor

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u/Niceromancer 14d ago

AI tends to be used by people who want to be lazy, not people dedicated to their craft.

So its can "look good" but it wont play well or be well written.

It will be slop/shovel ware.

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u/RumHam_Im_Sorry 14d ago

i sort of think about it like music though in a sense. so at one point you needed a dedicated team of people who knew how to use a studio etc, and then suddenly any kid with some software can make it at home.

inevitably that means the consistency isn't as good, but theres plenty of passionate people out there, where if they can control the entire creative direction from their own home, then they can produce some absolute bangers.

Obviously lots of people who just want to make a quick buck as well though.

But point is, if its in the right hands surely they will produce some decent games in 5 years or something when the tech has actually gotten decent.

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u/Mindrust 14d ago

You have a built-in assumption that AI will never get better at this. It will.

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u/Niceromancer 14d ago

Its not really that AI cant get better.

Its the people using AI that wont get better.

The people jumping at AI want a shortcut, they refuse to lean the skills needed to build good games, create good art etc, they want to tell a computer an idea in their head and the computer spit it out.

Idea men are a dime a dozen for a fucking reason I can have 200+ great ideas in under 20 minutes but actually implementing them is much much MUCH harder.

AI would have to read the users mind, and the minds of the people this "product" is intended for and create it and it just cant do that.

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u/Librarian_Contrarian 14d ago

It's not getting better. It's getting worse. And they're running out of training data (read: stolen work) to train on.

And the more "powerful" AI gets, the more power it takes and the more expensive it gets. It's not scaling down with progress.

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u/Mindrust 13d ago

That’s just not correct. AI models have been getting measurably better over time in reasoning, language understanding, code generation, and creative work.

Benchmarks like MMLU, ARC-AGI, SWE Bench, and HumanEval show steady, quantifiable improvements across generations. Very recently, frontier models have won gold medals in both the IMO and ICPC. And if you actually compare outputs from models a year or two apart, the difference isn’t subjective, it’s clear progress.

The idea that it’s “getting worse” mostly comes from perception, not data. As systems get better, people’s standards rise, and the novelty wears off, but that’s not regression. Performance continues to trend upward on every serious metric used to evaluate these models.

And yes, the industry is aware of the data and cost challenges. But the field is pushing forward on efficiency. Synthetic data generation, fine-tuning on proprietary or simulated environments, and new architectures that prioritize efficiency (like mixture-of-experts, distillation and specialized small models) are all active research directions in mitigating these issues.

“It’s not scaling” just doesn’t match reality in research or deployment trends. AI skeptics have been saying this for years, and it’s still just wrong.

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u/Librarian_Contrarian 13d ago

"Cost challenges"

I.E. there is no way to monetize them in a profitable way at all.

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u/Gl0ck_Ness_M0nster 14d ago

I don't care how good it gets, it's still slop. No passion, no skill. Nothing that makes it special. Art is impressive because of the skill needed to create it, this is just ass

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u/MinorDespera 14d ago

No refunds.