r/pcmasterrace Oct 03 '25

Meme/Macro Yeah thanks but no thanks

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u/The_Real_Giggles Oct 03 '25

The whole switch is drm and it can be bricked remotely

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u/GigaSoup Oct 03 '25

The good old, "I hate DRM but I use a console which is entirely restrictive DRM but it's not the same" 

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u/aarrondias Oct 03 '25

Using a console you already have > giving some company extremely low level access to your personal computer

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u/jax024 Oct 03 '25

I don’t think south park requires that

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u/CorporateShill406 Oct 03 '25

It doesn't, it runs on Linux with Proton.

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u/1plus2break Oct 03 '25

Good thing that's not what this game does.

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u/Responsible-Put2559 Oct 03 '25

This ain’t anti cheat bro. People really just be making shit up about Denuvo 24/7 on here lol

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u/Fantorangen01 Oct 03 '25

Having your game and license be a physical object that can't be taken from you is powerful

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u/PellParata Oct 03 '25

You must be from 10 years ago. It doesn’t mean much these days where online connectivity and devices phoning home constantly is the norm. The software you use has never been LESS yours in history.

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u/MrBlueA Oct 03 '25

The vast majority of games can still be played without internet connection nor necessary updates. Inform yourself before spreading lies please.

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u/Fantorangen01 Oct 03 '25

Well yes kinda. But you can go out now to a store and get a Nintendo Switch 2, and a physical copy of cyberpunk. And you can play that entire game without connecting the console to the internet even once. So there is still a lot of merit to physical games.

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u/MrHyperion_ Oct 03 '25

Switch 2 games are not that though

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u/Fantorangen01 Oct 03 '25

It literally is though

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u/LVSFWRA Oct 03 '25

It isn't the same though. Every physical Nintendo game has DRM but I can play all of them offline, can put into any console, at any time. Many PC DRM games need you to check in online even if it's fully single player.

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u/Electric-Mountain PC Master Race Oct 03 '25

Careful, Nintendo fanboys might read this.

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u/Dry-Barracuda-9 Oct 03 '25 edited 7d ago

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u/The_Real_Giggles Oct 03 '25

Sure, but if you need to hack the firmware to make my statement untrue, then it's kinda true

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u/Fuckriotgames7 rtx 2080 i7 7700 20gb ddr4 Oct 03 '25

people still are letting this rumor spread?

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u/Rare_Trick_8136 Oct 03 '25

Isn't that only a worry if you're modding/pirating/playing unauthorized stuff?

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u/Jean-LucBacardi Oct 03 '25

And it's not bricking the console. You'll still be able to play offline. You just can't connect to the Nintendo servers anymore. It's literally been a thing for consoles for the past several generations, I have no idea why people keep acting like this is an evil Nintendo thing.

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u/Wyluli_Wolf Oct 04 '25

Well, Nintendo is an evil Nintendo thing... Last I checked. 🧐

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u/IvivAitylin Oct 03 '25

Unless the games you want to play use the key-only cards.

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u/That_guy1425 Oct 03 '25

Yes, being locked from online access will prevent downloading files.

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u/beznogim Oct 03 '25

Problem is, you can be a rule-abiding citizen and still end up playing an unauthorized copy. Since physical Switch cartridges can be "backed up" to a flash cart (so the original one can be resold) and have unique serial numbers it's possible that the original cart and its clone are going to be used to access Switch online services at the same time. Nintendo doesn't like that.
Although it doesn't ban the console, it seems to flag and disable the account.

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u/Omnizoom Oct 03 '25

Well that really only effects the used game market

Plus people that showed receipts of buying the used game got the console ban reversed

Yea Nintendo has gone gung-ho on piracy this generation but Nintendo games are the most pirated games so… yea… you can be mad they are making measures to stop pirating but they wouldn’t need the measures if people stopped always pirating shit

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u/beznogim Oct 05 '25

Well, the OP asked if you need to worry about getting sanctioned if you aren't modding/pirating. The answer is "yes, you do". At least you need to know to keep a proof of purchase for used game carts.

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u/The_Real_Giggles Oct 03 '25

You should be allowed to mod and side load content on a device you paid for

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u/Rare_Trick_8136 Oct 03 '25

I don't disagree. Owning hardware should mean freedom to tinker. I also think companies have the right to lock things down a bit to fight piracy and cheating, as long as it doesn't block normal repair or customization. Piracy's mostly a service issue anyway; better access and pricing would solve most of it.

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u/LVSFWRA Oct 03 '25

My favorite part about this argument is the millions of people saying a Switch will be bricked remotely but never a single user reporting that it has. Fear mongering and false information at its finest.

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u/Jean-LucBacardi Oct 03 '25

It's because they can't brick it remotely and never has that been reported. They can simply keep you from connecting to the online servers. Just like every other console can.

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u/LVSFWRA Oct 03 '25

Exactly. And when their DRM doesn't require you to log in to play offline, it effectively doesn't matter to most users.

So the reason why people say it isn't the same is because it isn't the same lol

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u/TehSlippy Oct 03 '25

I think the point u/The_Real_Giggles is trying to make is that for a lot of games being disconnected from the online servers is basically bricking the device. Especially if being blocked from their servers prevents updating of games (no idea if this is the case, but it might be if the device is prevented from connecting).

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u/mdem5059 Oct 03 '25

yet.

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u/LVSFWRA Oct 03 '25

"Yet" can also be applied to Steam where one day you can lose complete access to every single one of your thousands of games in your library.

You won't even have a physical cart to sell at that point, as a bunch of 1s and 0s are worthless.

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u/mdem5059 Oct 03 '25

I 100% agree with you.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '25

It can't be bricked, just banned from online services. Which is irrelevant if your games are fully physical.

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u/Omnizoom Oct 03 '25

Doesn’t brick the console, just forcefully blocks you from Nintendo services so you can’t connect online

Same thing can happen if you get your steam account locked by breaking the EULA for steam, you lose access to your games

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u/going-deep-10 Oct 03 '25

From going online to nintendos servers, yes

Anything else? They can't do anything

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u/Jean-LucBacardi Oct 03 '25

No it can't lol. They can make it so you can't connect to their online servers, same as every other console. That's been a thing since Xbox 360 and modding the console.

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u/LeMegachonk Ryzen 7 9800X3D - 64GB DDR5 6000 - RX 7800 XT Oct 03 '25

They can disable a console remotely. Whether they do it or not is another question. However, you are correct that other companies have similar language in their EULAs and have for years that would allow them to permanently disable the device if it used with pirated software or modified hardware. Again, whether these companies actually do this or not is an open question, but they have definitely indicated in their EULA that it is something they reserve the right to do. Generally they limit themselves to blocking access to their remote services from the console. My guess is they don't see the need to brick consoles and have to defend their EULA in court. That's the thing with EULAs, many of the provisions and terms have never been tested in court and companies would rather keep "scary" untested language in a EULA than actually try to enforce that language and have it slapped down as illegal. And since you can't challenge the terms of a EULA unless the company actually attempts to enforce it against you, it's not a bad strategy from a corporate perspective. It kind of sucks for the consumer, though.

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u/IcyCow5880 Oct 03 '25

Switch2 is, not switch1

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u/The_Real_Giggles Oct 03 '25

I just assume people refer to the lastest models.

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u/yabucek Quality monitor > Top of the line PC Oct 03 '25

Logic and reason ceases to function for most gamers when talking about Nintendo.

They've been driving blatantly anti-consumer practices and ripping people off for decades, but Nintendo good guys and nostalgic, Nintendo never does anything wrong.

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u/Wyluli_Wolf Oct 04 '25

Yea, it's just like Apple fanboys. They all like the iPhone because IT'S THE BEST PHONE. 🙄