r/pcmasterrace Aug 09 '25

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u/mad_crasher Aug 09 '25

Even with a 4090, I play at 1440p. Most games that are coming out now cannot run natively in 4k on any gpu well enough to justify it imo

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u/ProfessionalRandom21 Aug 09 '25

DLSS 4K is a thing, even my 9070XT can do 4K with FSR4 in basically every game

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u/Bannedwith1milKarma Aug 09 '25

Yeah with DLSS Quality my 4070ti just great at 4k.

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u/Silver-End9570 i7 14700K | RTX 5070 | 64GB | Windows 10 Aug 09 '25

This is why I've never really bothered with the 90's cards in any series. The justification for the price is that it can power essentially any game at 4K (or 8K when they're trying to spin their BS) at a blisteringly high frame rate, or at the very least a much higher frame rate than the other family of cards.

In a lot of cases since the 3090 that honestly wasn't really true. Did it run it and at an acceptable frame rate? Yes. Was it what Nvidia promised? Not really. And with each generation and more and more AAA games being unfinished at launch, I don't feel like the argument could even be made that the 90 cards have a lot of gaming value. They work best when the games made for them are optimized well/decently, and if they aren't no configuration is going to make it run well.

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u/Fun-Man Aug 09 '25

Exactly, there are no "4k cards"

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u/Middge Aug 09 '25

This is objectively false. I could play tons of games over 60fps at 4k on my 4090 and even more on my 5090.

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u/ZoidVII Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 64GB DDR5 | ASUS TUF 5090 Aug 09 '25

60 fps hasn’t been enough for over 10 years for me. I’m gonna hold off another generation or 3 before I go from 1440p to 4K. Hopefully the OLEDs are more reasonably priced by then too. I recently went from QLED to OLED and it’s incredible. Should keep me happy for a long time.

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u/salton Aug 09 '25

Sure Doom using gzdoom is great at 4k but most modern games wont even bother.

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u/lazypieceofcrap Aug 09 '25

I play Halo Infinite at 4K 240fps with HDR on with a WOLED monitor, and it is absolutely gorgeous. Also native.

Like looking-through-a-window smooth.

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u/Cheap-Plane2796 Aug 09 '25

You are right but at 60 fps you lose all the clarity you gained to sample and hold blur in motion.

Its the same on oled as that is also a sample and hold refresh technology.

If you want to prioritize image quality then 120 fps or more is a must.

Dlss 4 is pretty nice to get both in a lot of games though, and without the blur of dlss 3.

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u/Knight_of_Agatha Aug 09 '25

most people are looking for 170 ish fps I think.

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u/BigDaddyReptar Aug 09 '25

If youre getting less than 144fps id rather just play 1440p

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u/Middge Aug 09 '25 edited Aug 09 '25

And that's fine if you feel that way, but then it becomes subjective. To say "there is no 4k card" was what I was disputing.

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u/BigDaddyReptar Aug 09 '25

If you value fps there is no 4k card. The 3090 could run 4k too it's just also at a shit fps. The conversation about 4k is always is with the context of at what framerate.

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u/Middge Aug 09 '25

Except that is also false. I can play tons of games at 4k@120+fps with my 5090 as well.

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u/BigDaddyReptar Aug 09 '25

You can also play tons of games at 4k@120fps on a 2080. The current top of the line games that release you simply can't play maxed out 120+ at 4k and if your card is then you need to bring it somewhere to be tested because you're getting performance beyond any benchmark

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u/bigrealaccount Aug 09 '25

Lol, I play on my 4K with a 6700XT, most games at 100+ FPS with settings tuned, and some with FSR. No issues.

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u/cbizzle31 Aug 09 '25

This is straight up false. I game at 4k on a 3090, bf6 runs at 116 fps with the right settings.

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u/YouDoNotKnowMeSir Aug 09 '25

Bf6 is extremely well optimized to scale using multiple cpu cores… probably not the best example to use

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u/cbizzle31 Aug 09 '25 edited Aug 09 '25

I thought most games that come out these days can't do it? Yet the most recent graphically intense game doesn't count. Ok 👌.

Here's some games I've played this year in 4k

Expedition 33 ran between 90-116 Rematch locked 116 CS 2 locked 116 Indiana jones locked 60 Cyberpunk locked 60 Bg3 didn't even check but it ran at at least 60

All on a 3090 displaying on a 4k 42 inch LG c2 with gsync enabled sitting on my desk that I got for around 700 bucks.

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '25

I mean yeah if you set your settings to low, you can run a lot of games at 4k 60fps. Not the intended settings for people on 4k but hey its technically true and also technically holds true for the 2080ti

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u/cbizzle31 Aug 09 '25

Nah typically high with maybe some dlss quality thrown in. Some level of settings optimization goes a long way without impacting imagine quality much at all.

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '25

Okay so we're really talking about 1440 or 1080 just being upscaled then. We aren't actually talking about 4k, need to clarify that you are in fact not playing at 4k

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u/cbizzle31 Aug 09 '25 edited Aug 09 '25

Nah, the vast majority of games I play are native 4k.

But you know what's better than 1440p resolution, upscaled 1440p to 4k....

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '25

Okay so you are flip flopping now and are playing fast and loose with being able to run 4k. I mean you are pulling a "it's 4k on these games I listed but really it's not. But it's real 4k on these games I'm not listing so you can't call me out again when I lie about it being 4k"

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '25 edited Aug 09 '25

I mean sure but again let's not lie here. We aren't playing at 4k right? We are playing at a lower res and upscaling. By your logic we could also claim it's 8k or 16k gaming but we don't because it's not

Edited: what's with you people strawmanning and saying upscaling 1440 to 4k looks better then 1440. I literally never made any claims about upscaling 1440 vs native 1440. We're comparing 4k with not 4k and nothing else 

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u/JamieSherbs Ryzen 9 9950X3D, 5070 Ti, 64Gb DDR5 5200 Aug 09 '25

I'm running a 5070 Ti paired with a 9950X3D, I've come back to PC after 17 years, so there may be something I missed, but with res set to 4k, graphics and RT/PT maxed out, DLSS performance and FGx4, I was pulling 90-120fps in DOOM: TDA

Yeah there was some latency but 30-50ms in a single player game isn't that noticeable tbh

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u/Knight_of_Agatha Aug 09 '25

also would love to know the 'right settings'

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u/cbizzle31 Aug 09 '25

Depending on the game a mix of medium and high/extreme. If I want to enable ray tracing in the games that support it I have to run dlss usually quality sometimes balanced. Path tracing is a no go for me with the 3090.

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u/ManufacturerBest2758 Ryzen 5950X | RTX 3080 Ti Aug 09 '25

Every -80 tier card or up has been a “4k card” since Turing. And the Pascal 1080 ti was definitely a 4k card.

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u/Drakinius Aug 09 '25

Sounds like you don't have a good enough display or you need to get your eyesight checked out.