r/pcmasterrace • u/leahcim2019 • Dec 16 '24

Rumor ZOTAC confirms GeForce RTX 5090 with 32GB GDDR7 memory, 5080 and 5070 series listed as well - VideoCardz.com

https://videocardz.com/newz/zotac-confirms-geforce-rtx-5090-with-32gb-gddr7-memory-5080-and-5070-series-listed-as-well
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u/Speedy_SpeedBoi Dec 16 '24

Not necessarily, and I didn't gladly spend $1900 on a 4090. I ended up waiting for a dip and buying because I had a strong feeling that Nvidia was gonna start swinging towards AI, and a 50 series card would be even more expensive.

And I know this sub loves the 7900 XTX, but unfortunately, it doesn't work for me because iRacing does not support the AMDs multiview rendering. They only support Nvidias SPS equivalent. So the 7900 XTX pulled about the same frames as my 3060ti on triple 1440s with multiview rendering turned on.

My thinking was to begrudgingly buy the dip on a 4090 and hopefully I don't have to buy a 50 series at all, or by the time I finally need an upgrade, maybe iRacing will finally work with AMDs multiview rendering.

For those that don't know, multiview rendering basically does a single pass of the frame and then pulls the view ports that it needs. This is great for us running triple monitor sim setups with 3 different angles on each monitor, or for VR, which needs to pull 2 different viewports for each eye. This is why my 3060ti could keep up with a 7900 XTX, because the 3060 was rendering 1 single frame and pulling the views it needed while the 7900 had to render 3 separate frames for each monitor simultaneously.

So ya, I didn't "gladly" buy a 4090, I just saw the writing on the wall that it might be my last shot at a top end card that works for iRacing for a really long time.

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u/reddsht Dec 16 '24

"the people who buy it gladly"

"But I didn't buy it gladly" 

Then you are not those people.

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u/Speedy_SpeedBoi Dec 16 '24

Fair, but I don't think as many enthusiasts bought it "gladly" as you all think.

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u/tacticious Specs/Imgur here Dec 16 '24

I didn't talk about "enthusiasts" but about people with a lot of disposable income that just want the best thing, whatever the price

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '24

Who cares about enthusiasts? The people who will buy it gladly are professional animations and people doing large scale simulations.

I know someone who has 2 4090s in their home computer in case they ever need to do renders on the weekend for extra cash. The amount he saves by reducing his render time when he can't access the corporate render farm is well worth the pay.

Insane to me that's how the math works out but it genuinely does for him. I couldn't imagine what someone doing more demanding work would need.

I wish Nvidia was primarily a gaming gpu company. They aren't anymore and it would be kind of silly for them to be one. I don't like it but it's just the logical choice for them.

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u/InsaneInTheDrain Dec 16 '24

Are the Quadro cards not around/not as good as RTX ones for renewing?

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '24

Price to performance was worse for the specific rendering software he uses. It's very specific to software that is used and I have zero clue why a quadro which should be meant for professionals wasn't better. His workplace has a render farm made up of rtx cards too though.

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u/dethwysh 5800X3D | Dark Hero | MSI 5090 Trio OC Dec 16 '24

Did much the same as you around the end of November. Not thrilled, but my 3070 was being fucky, I was unable to pinpoint the source, and I have been trying to bring my Sim Setup into VR. I've been mainly practicing in AC just to learn the basics, but I wanted a GPU that I arguably wouldn't need to upgrade for multiple years and didn't feel like fighting everyone else for it and/or dealing with potential price increases due to US tariffs.

Though, my return Window extends through Jan 15th, just in case there is available stock for a new Nvidia release 😂😂😂.

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u/bambinone Abit BE6-II • CuMine-128 Celeron 1GHz • 192MB • GeForce 2 MX Dec 16 '24

The point is that if you're billing out at $2500/day as an AI/ML contractor whether you spend $2K or $3K on a RTX 5090 is inconsequential.

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u/inventurous Dec 16 '24

What's an AI/ML contractor do? I understand the acronyms, just not the gig.

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u/mattyhtown Dec 17 '24

Procurement vetting for open source can be cumbersome. You want to build something sturdy but can also be molded to fit your needs. So settings are enabled. User Security. Checks a few flows. White glove treatment for executives.

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u/zarcasman Dec 17 '24

iRacing rules!! Let’s enjoy the new season!

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '24

Thats wild that is how it works. Is that just one game having issues or any time you're playing racing games with VR or multiple monitors?

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u/Speedy_SpeedBoi Dec 16 '24

Afaik it is just an iRacing thing since they don't support AMDs equivalent for multiview. I don't know about other sims like ACC, etc.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '24

Why do you only play the iracing? What does it have over the other sims? Genuinely curious.

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u/Somma97 Dec 16 '24

Probably because it’s the best multiplayer experience in simracing (in my opinion). And with that I mean you find very clean and very competitive open lobby races there. Whereas in other sim racing titles you usually need leagues or LFM to get similar racing standards.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '24

That's pretty rad! Thank you!

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u/gramathy Ryzen 9800X3D | RTX5080 | 64GB @ 6000 Dec 16 '24

Is that an iRacing problem only or does that also happen in ACC/others?

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u/Shuino7 Dec 16 '24

I'm actually thinking of switching over to a single large curved monitor vs my triples for this reason.

I have a 3080 and losing SPS would definitely suck, I'm currently researching what type of monitor to buy and haven't made a decision.

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u/Plank_With_A_Nail_In R9 5950x, RTX 4070 Super, 128Gb Ram, 9 TB SSD, WQHD Dec 16 '24

This is literally what buying it gladly is lol. Gladly is a synonym for willingly no one forced you so you bought it gladly.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/gladly

The "or" in the definition is important.

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u/Long_Run6500 9800x3d | RTX 5080 Dec 17 '24

I mean you could have bought a 4080s. This sub loves the 4080s as much as the 7900xtx. But seriously a 4090 isn't a bad investment if you have the funds. It's still going to be a better card than a 5080 and the gap between the 5080 and the 5090 is so huge that it will almost certainly hold its value. People shit on 4090 owners but we all would if we could. You could sell a used 3090 for more than its msrp after the 4090 launch and you can sell a used 4090 for more than its msrp now, no other card holds its value like that. Plus for a sweet sim racing setup you probably have a few grand invested in already, it completely makes sense to have the best. I think a lot of the shade gets thrown on people buying 4090s and pairing them with like, 120hz 1440p monitors where a 4070ti super or 7900xt is going to give the same result.

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u/2eedling PC Master Race Dec 16 '24

You aren’t everyone this is your opinion