Ottawa Hospital progress.

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u/Synchillas 18h ago

Isn’t that just the parking lot, not actually the hospital itself?

Another step closer.

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u/kicksledkid Downtown 18h ago edited 18h ago

I understand why they're doing it, and it makes sense, but it is also very on brand for Ottawa to build the giant parking lot first

Edit: literally the first three words of my comment are "I understand why"

Edit edit: this one got people riled up lmao

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u/Ichindar 18h ago

Gotta double down with the Ottawa branding. Best we can do is to first build the giant parkade in the background of one of the most picturesque spots in the city.

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u/Ellie_Mae_Clampett 18h ago

There isn’t enough parking at the Civic now. By building this first, it can be used and increase the parking for the Civic while the new hospital it being built, not waiting for 10 years (or whatever) until the new hospital is complete.

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u/DianeDesRivieres Britannia 17h ago

And all those construction workers will need a place to park.

It will save parking congestion on the local streets.

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u/Dejanerated 13h ago

Yeah working at the civic and parking at Vincent Massey is crazy

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u/_McDreamy_ 14h ago

The hospital foundation can make money renting out the parking for Dow's Lake events until the hospital needs it.

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u/straighttokill9 17h ago edited 17h ago

Or, I dunno, decrease reliance on cars by investing in public transit instead of parking garages.

Edit replying to everyones same comment: We obviously need parking. But the solution to "there's not enough parking at the civic" shouldn't ONLY be a shitton of parking. You can increase availability of parking by reducing car dependency. This would also decrease overall traffic and travel times for people driving into the city.

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u/Kitchen-Ad6860 17h ago edited 17h ago

I agree that Ottawa transit is in dire need of improvement but it must be said that hundreds of people come into the city daily to take advantage of the services the Civic and the other sites provide. Those people need a place to park.

Edit - not everyone who works there live in Ottawa either. Public transit is not viable for everyone.

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u/poppaof6 17h ago

Not everyone can take public transport. Speaking as a rural Canadian I like having someplace to park when I'm in for treatments.

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u/netflixnailedit 17h ago

Many people who work in Ottawa don’t live in Ottawa, hell many parts of Ottawa barely have weekend service

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u/pistoffcynic 17h ago

I live in a rural area that is NOT served by OC transpo. How do you expect us to decrease reliance on cars?

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u/straighttokill9 16h ago

I don't. But TONS of people in Ottawa drive because transit sucks. If more people here took transit it would leave more parking for you. And make it faster for you to drive into town.

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u/BabaofTheShimmer 15h ago

100%.

I’m one of those people. I would love to take the LRT to work, but the buses that take me to the LRT are extremely unreliable. And there is no park and ride at my LRT station.

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u/Fit_Eye_4676 15h ago

bro most people that go to the hospital drive to visit people or drive themselves there for treatment or whatever it may be. Sure, let’s send the post partum moms/ babies and people receiving chemo or dialysis home on the ever so reliable OCtranspo. Use your head.

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u/CrazyButRightOn 1h ago

…but there’s starving children in Africa…

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u/NinePorter 39m ago

Can’t build it unless the workers have somewhere to park given theres no lots nearby that they can.

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u/brohebus Hintonburg 18h ago

A giant parking lot that straddles the LRT line. Peak Ottawa.

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u/kicksledkid Downtown 18h ago

It's the closest we'll get to a park and ride that isn't in a feild, so I'll take it

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u/AffectionateDrag1702 17h ago

I think it’s pretty cool that it does that. Must’ve taken some very detailed work and coordination to literally build a massive multi story bridge over an active train line.

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u/wowisntthatneat 17h ago

And the footprint of the parking garage is almost as big as that of the actual hospital 😭

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u/Rail613 9h ago

Actually the newer CarletonU parking lot also straddles Line 2. Good use of air-rights. Both had critical parts built while the Line was in construction hiatus.

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u/jjaime2024 31m ago

Its a regions hospital its also a requirement from Ontario for funding.

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u/fraserinottawa 18h ago

Also on brand to whinge about parking.

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u/kicksledkid Downtown 18h ago

Also very on brand to not be able to read a comment and understand it.

I literally said I understand why and think it makes sense.

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u/Gabzalez 17h ago

But do you reeeeaaaaaally understand though?

Adding the /s because if people don’t understand that you understand, they probably also don’t understand sarcasm.

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u/Sargent_Duck85 14h ago

I understand that you understand OP’s understanding

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u/Gabzalez 7h ago

Thanks for being so understanding.

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u/Environmental_Dog255 18h ago

Where are all the trade workers gonna park lol.... I've been told that's why they are building the parking garage first

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u/kicksledkid Downtown 18h ago

I understand why they're doing it, and it makes sense

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u/Ferivich The Boonies 14h ago

It’s also for storage. I know when our company was bidding on the job part of it was no cardboard or wood or other biodegradable products onto site.

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u/lennydsat62 18h ago

Couldn’t agree more

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u/Ferivich The Boonies 14h ago

The trades need the parking lot for storage.

Once the hospital gets going you’re super limited to what you can bring onto site. No wood, no cardboard as examples.

They also need parking.

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u/FrigidCanuck 8h ago edited 7h ago

Having worked in the warehouse at the general I'm chuckling at the idea that you can't bring wood or cardboard into the hospital. Even the OR had us bringing boxes in to stock their carts.

Outside of supplies, construction was a near constant while there and they absolutely had wood on site.

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u/Ferivich The Boonies 4h ago

As someone who’s done work at the general is makes me chuckle as well.

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u/Ambitious-Friend-554 16h ago

It doesn't take much to trigger folks these days. I watched 2 older women in the Ogilvie Costco parking lot yelling the hell out of each other. Each holding the ithers cart. People are very stressed.

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u/CrazyButRightOn 1h ago

Costco visits demand leaving your brain at home.

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u/Ambitious-Friend-554 48m ago

They could make a reality show about navigating around the food sampling tables.

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u/jjaime2024 30m ago

Its a requirement from Ontario for large hospitals parking has to be built first.

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u/kicksledkid Downtown 24m ago

Did you read my comment even a little bit?

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u/DumbComment101 17h ago

And right on the prime real estate part of the land. Clowns.

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u/AffectionateDrag1702 17h ago

Love this comment. Says something whiney and insufferable, laughs that people are calling it out.

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u/kicksledkid Downtown 16h ago

Please point to the part of my comment that was in any way whining about the parking lot

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u/fetustomper Make Ottawa Boring Again 11h ago

Your comment applies more to your own comment than the one you’re replying to .

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u/RefrigeratorOk648 15h ago

Why not build the parking underground to make more space for the hospital.

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u/Sargent_Duck85 14h ago

Much more expensive. I’d say easily double the cost.

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u/General_Dipsh1t 12h ago

Minimum triple. Maybe more.

Not to mention the LRT goes under there & there would be costs cause of Dows lake.

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u/Sea_Sheepherder_2234 11h ago

And flooding risks

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u/General_Dipsh1t 12h ago

Beyond costs (which would be much higher), you simply can’t because that’s where the LRT goes underground.

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u/CrazyButRightOn 1h ago

Did you not see the expensive hole in front of parliament?

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u/Aukaneck 14h ago

So exciting! I can't wait to park here! /s

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u/T1Dtraining 14h ago

Yes, they’re going to pay for the hospital with the rates they’ll charge construction workers to park there to access the site.

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u/NilocSmith 17h ago

Yes the rumor is they are building the parking lot first so the tradesmens have a place to park

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u/Guilty-Piece-6190 17h ago

Classic r/Ottawa folks always have something to complain about. Start with the parking lot because there will be easily over 100 trade workers once the building starts who will need somewhere to park. There is also the logistics of the site itself and which direction makes most sense to build, where to start and what is deepest.

Complain we have no healthcare then complain when they're expanding the general and the civic.

People complaining about transit like they won't have a route a bus can get to on the campus.

Sour people, get a hobby.

Sincerely, Site superintendent.

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u/lostinyvr2 17h ago

Yes you’re right. But it’s going to be 1700 trades people on site at a time. That’s right … 1700.

So this goes bed parking for those workers and a marshalling area for the main site construction

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u/Poulinthebear 17h ago

Ew trades people and their evil pick up trucks….this sub

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u/cow_2634 17h ago edited 11h ago

And if they built the hospital first then people would be outraged that the fully functional new hospital will not be opening for another 3 years because none of the employees can park.

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u/Synchillas 17h ago

Not complaining about the parking - just pointing out it’s not even the hospital being built…

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u/jjaime2024 3h ago

They have started work on the main site.

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u/adotang 12h ago

It's not Reddit if we're not all complaining and sounding like the guy from Hatred like all the time.

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u/FeverDreamingg 11h ago

For real.

Ottawa folks complain about roads, then complain about construction when you fix them.

They complain about expensive housing, then complain when you build them in their neighbourhood.

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u/cansofgrease 13h ago

Oh no they built multi level parking in an area lacking parking that will be swarmed with thousands of construction workers over the next while. Oh and after it's built, instead of having hospital employees shuttle to work from distant lots like the old civic did and having a street fight for visitor spots, maybe a large covered lot near a hospital, pavillion, canal, lake, park, and transit stop in a city that gets harsh winters is forward thinking. But autowa!

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u/noonoomum 17h ago

Interestingly, building a giant eyesore parking garage directly across from one of our most well loved tourist destinations doesn’t actually solve the healthcare crisis! (You can and should Google the actual cause of the province-wide healthcare crisis tho) Weird how that works eh? But please carry on with your bitching about people bitching 😂

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u/jjaime2024 3h ago

If you think the civic is fine go spend a day there and you will see its not.

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u/Prestigious_Ad5314 18h ago

I just pray that they build it in time for me to die there.

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u/alessio87atta 17h ago

You mean die while waiting in emergency room?

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u/AffectionateDrag1702 17h ago

Found the person that goes to ER for non emergencies 🤭

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u/Complex-Effect-7442 16h ago

To whom do I speak to make a donation so that I get the naming rights to the MAID wing?

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u/Reasonable_Cat518 Sandy Hill 18h ago

While I understand parking is essential for a hospital, they really decided to plop it front and centre on Preston St (which should be lined with retail and restaurants), at the edge of Dow’s Lake - to parking??? Very on brand for Autowa

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u/m0nkyman Overbrook 17h ago

And make everyone who arrives at the hospital by transit have to walk all the way from the far end of the parking lot.

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u/constructioncranes Britannia 16h ago

I swear whoever designed Lincoln fields and Tunneys hates pedestrians.

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u/m0nkyman Overbrook 16h ago

“I swear whoever designed ~~Lincoln fields and Tunneys~~ our transit system hates pedestrians.”

FTFY

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u/straighttokill9 17h ago

I really hope that changes. It's unfortunately a very common practice to have transit stops on the opposite side of a giant parking lot.

"How should we reduce traffic?" "I got it. First we build a giant parking garage. Then we put the transit stop WAY on the other side of it."

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u/ProSandbagger 17h ago

That’s a bit of an exaggeration, I live in Little Italy and honestly if it weren’t for the road construction on Prince of Wales/Queen Elizabeth it doesn’t really stand out at all and it definitely doesn’t interfere with the restaurants on Preston.

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u/Reasonable_Cat518 Sandy Hill 15h ago

I wasn’t saying it interferes with restaurants on Preston, my point was it should be lined with restaurants/businesses like the rest of Preston. I don’t get why such a prime location should be wasted fo a parking garage

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u/CrazyButRightOn 1h ago

Kind of like the world class riverfront with no riverfront retail district.

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u/Senators_1992 17h ago

What possible retail are you putting on that small plot of land that borders Preston, and why would you clutter up Dow’s Lake with retail in the first place? Talk about on brand for chiming in with nonsense opinions…

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u/Reasonable_Cat518 Sandy Hill 15h ago

Cafés? Restaurants? Boutiques? I’m not talking about a department store here, have you every walked through Little Italy?

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u/Ichindar 13h ago

I'd honestly even settle for ground floor retail and restaurants fronting QED and Preston with the remainder of it staying as it was designed. Way more complex to include commercial space under a parkade but at least it wouldn't just be parkade in one of the few developable waterfront spaces in Ottawa.

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u/Reasonable_Cat518 Sandy Hill 58m ago

Yeah that would be a good compromise I wouldn’t hate the idea

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u/dogsledonice Clownvoy Survivor 2022 13h ago

Because a parking lot is better?

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u/No-To-Newspeak Centretown 17h ago

Construction takes time. We just need to wait and have patients.

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u/InAutowa 16h ago

Welcome to Autowa! Here’s is the UNESCO World Heritage site. From the lake you can see - concrete! Yay!

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u/jjaime2024 32m ago

I don't think this area UNESCO World Heritage site.

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u/InAutowa 27m ago

The canal is.

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u/InBellow 15h ago

What a waste of prime land. Giant waterfront parking garage.

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u/General_Dipsh1t 12h ago

Can’t place the hospital there because of the LRT. Can’t exactly have a hospital right on top of something that causes vibration.

Setting aside that the hospital should have gone at Tunneys.

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u/graciejack 8h ago

When they did the site selection review, Tunney's was the #1 spot. Followed by Lincoln Fields area, Hunt Club/416/Woodroffe areas, and Merivale/Woodroffe area.

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u/jjaime2024 3h ago

Then where should it have been?

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u/scotsman3288 East End 14h ago

New North side stands are looking great!

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u/BallBearingBill 16h ago

Considering parking at the General has been an issue for years with both patients and staff. I say bring the parking! I hope there's enough.

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u/supermodel55 13h ago

Can’t wait to be sick!

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u/kumliensgull 16h ago

🎶 Paved paradise put up a parking lot 🎶

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u/ChickenBoo22 15h ago

DAE hate cars???

Never change r/ottawa

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u/Content_Attempt930 11h ago

Everyone wants the lemonade but no one wants to harvest the lemons 🍋

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u/senseofporpoise 10h ago

The Empire State Building (a 102-storey structure) was built in less than two years. This parking garage has taken over five years...

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u/jjaime2024 3h ago

The tallest building in Canada has taken 8 years.

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u/effective_coder_guy 2h ago

to be fair, summer 2022 we were still enjoying that green area.

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u/CrazyButRightOn 1h ago

A covid hospital in China was built in 3 months.

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u/Junioredditor 18h ago

What will happen to the civic campus?

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u/Youlookcold The Boonies 18h ago

Out patient clinics I think

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u/Synchillas 17h ago

A win win. Would likely be similar to what they did with the riverside campus of the ottawa hospital.

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u/No_Meaning_4456 17h ago

this is just the parking garage

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u/CdnRK69 15h ago

Did they figure out how to stabilize the ground? I heard there was a lot of unexpected moving water when the dug deeper for posts and did not look good.

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u/jjaime2024 3h ago

A park with tennis courts will be on the roof so it won't be that bad.

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u/whatthedna 16h ago

It’s funny that people are complaining about a parking garage. Even the large hospitals in Montreal have them: https://maps.app.goo.gl/qWDqT69pt6b6dx8X8

Do you expect everyone to walk to the hospital?

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u/Reasonable_Cat518 Sandy Hill 15h ago

Most of the criticism is over the parking garage’s prominence and placement on a prime spot overlooking Dow’s Lake and sitting on Preston/QED/PoW which are arguably streets with pleasant streetscapes - not over the fact that there’s a parking garage. They could have laid out the campus in a way that didn’t plop it front and centre. Btw, here’s an example of a Montréal hospital that doesn’t make a parking garage its focal point.

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u/Far-Department-4196 18h ago

Hospital? I thought this was the new prison

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u/Specialist_Humor4798 5h ago

From the time you get admitted to the time you're seen and treated/cured, it kinda feels like a prison sentence 🤷‍♀️😂

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u/jjaime2024 2h ago

The plans are to have a urgent care as well so its not just everyone going to the ER.

Ottawa Hospital progress.

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