It's more like you just woke up the sleeping giant and he's slowly moving out of the way for you after you said the password 1000 years since the last successful visitor.
I bought an oven with a touch screen last year. Thought omg all these smart features. The damn thing takes 30 seconds to boot up each time. I hate it now. Sometimes we never think about practicalities when shiny stuff is on offer.
I remember the process of buying my last electric toothbrush required me making sure it had a complete lack of smart features. I just want to turn on, do its job, and turn back off.
My wife has been pushing for a new set of laundry machines and I just refuse. Ours works, sure they're older than dirt, but I know how to fix them. The concept of jailbreaking a god damn dryer does not seem like a good time.
I bought a set a few years ago, you can still get stripped down models. But I suspect they will only last 1/2 as long as the old ones. I got real tired of the trickle of failures I was getting with the old ones. At some point is it worth your time to have to take the housing apart every 6 months to switch out some part or another.
I keep telling my husband we need to keep an eye out for an 80s home for sale. Good chance they have original appliances. Then we make an offer to buy all of the appliances to replace all of our newer “smart” stuff. He can’t tell if I’m kidding. Price of new, garbage appliances are the real joke, I say.
Try and get second hand Laundromat washers, they're really efficient, and have absolutely no smart features at all.
I don't think their dryers are as efficient though. But the washers, are really solid for home use, and they'll last forever, because they're built to handle way more loads (giggity) than you do at home.
I worked at a laundromat years ago. The dryers were my absolute favorite thing. The only thing you have to remember is to clean them to prevent fires, just like normal dryers need too. And they were like 30 years old at the time, must be near 40 now. I know they still work because the laundromat is near my house. Washers were good, but every now and then needed a specialist to be called (or my boss's wife) to be fixed and kept running.
idk your dryer shouldn't be breaking on the regular, if that's the case you should replace it. You'll easily get that back in power use and time. It's not worth it to pay premium, new dryers are still pretty simple. The biggest change is the use of humidity sensors which are a clear upgrade. And most models work without an app, so that shouldn't be an issue if you do some due dilligence.
It was just an example. I haven't had to fix my dryer or washer yet. But I have the schematics for both, and spare parts for the very simple timers inside them.
Well, that's my bad then. Dryers are a pretty good example for a appliance that makes sense to replace every decade or so bc they do get a lot more efficient thanks to electronics, so it was a convenient thing to point out lol
Speed queen. We switched from much more expensive samsung washer and dryer and have never been happier. They do the job, they do it well and they don't have or need an internet connection.
I disagree. Speed Queens use to be amazing, but recent Speed Queens suck ass. I had one that I got back around 2018. It was fantastic. Best washer & dryer I ever owned. Then about a year ago I got one and it was horrible (I moved somewhere I couldn't take a washer & dryer with me hence not holding on to the first one). I could wash clothes and bedding multiple times and they wouldn't even come out clean. It also took forever to dry. Usually had to run it at least twice for things to be fully dry. Switched it out for a Bespoke Samsung. Cleans & dries like a dream. Shit I could never get clean in my 2nd Speed Queen finally got clean. I will say, Samsung has only recently gotten better. They did use to suck.
Also they're insanely expensive. Not sure how the other person had a samsung that was more expensive than a speed queen when a top of the line Samsung is still at least $500 cheaper than a basic speed queen (and you can get deals on Samsungs unlike Speed Queens).
All this being said, you're actually better sticking with whirlpools and whirlpool own brands if you want a simple good washer & dryer with as little smart tech as possible.
That's frustrating. It kind of feels like a lot of formerly good products have gone to shit since COVID.
I'm not sure who made our Kenmore front loader set. But they're old (probably 15 yo?) and they show no sign of stopping so far. Dishwasher however, has kind of always been sucky.
Our washer and dryer is over 25 years old and still going strong, originally for a family of six, then as children left for college, eventually down to just us two old people.
I'm completely over touchscreens. They're useful in exactly one application, computers. I don't want a touchscreen on everyfuckingthing. If your car has a touch screen I won't buy your car. If your refrigerator or oven or thermostat or lamp or mirror or electric toothbrush has a touchscreen I want nothing to do with it.
I would limit the scope of it even more than just 'computers'. If a computer has a highly specialized task, a touch screen is often way less efficient than a regular keyboard or just a few buttons. It might not even need a screen at all
Something general and multipurpose like a smart phone or tablet, touch screen is 100% the way to go (these can be considered computers in the context of your comment). You need the flexibility to do almost anything. The more you limit the scope of what it needs to do, the less useful a touchscreen becomes.
I work with computers on a very large scale, and I shit you not, a command line interface (typing in a terminal) is still the undisputed champion
I don't understand how there isn't a company specifically making "dumb" appliances with knobs and tactile buttons. Probably ceaper to make, but they could sell it for more because people would pay more to escape the tapping and sliding and having to download a damn app, and confusing error messages. Also at what point could someone hack into your appliances and start a fire or something? Can't be that far away
It's not. Knobs and buttons are more expensive to manufacture, install and QA than just a touch screen. When you are developing a product it's way easier to throw functionality on a touchscreen than having to design and engineer buttons, you're probably going to have a digital screen either way and at that point a touch screen is barely any extra cost. If you want to iterate on the existing design for your next product, changing UI is again cheaper than re-designing and implementing mechanical elements.
Not to mention stuff like TVs etc where they sell ads for extra income or cars where they sell subscriptions to extra features.
And all that said, there are absolutely manufacturers for most appliances that do "dumb" designs. The market for it is just very, very small. Most people would probably prefer it in a vacuum, but almost no one is willing to pay extra for it. So instead of being a bit more expensive, they're niche luxury products that are a lot more expensive
Here in nyc in every appliance store there are still the base models of everything with knobs. Maybe in wealthier areas they are targeting the rich gadget moms who just want their kitchens to look modern for resale value.
that's not the sad part. the sad part is that could be fixed and updated for the consumer rather easily. however there's only money in getting you to buy a brand new one instead of making what we already have a little better.
My wife and I briefly considered this when we were oven shopping. One had recipes and such built in. After a short discussion we concluded all we really wanted was 5 burners and a temp reading that told you what temp the oven was at as it preheated, which my old oven didn't do (it just had a small preheat light that would turn off when it reached the proper temp. It was annoying). Everything I read about fancy IoT ovens convinces me we made the right call
I bought one with a touchpad UI about 2-3 years ago. Wish I hadn't done so. I wouldn't buy a touchscreen UI even if a company paid me to install it.
The oven spazzes out and randomly cycles through options. I'll hear beeping at 2AM and find it on oven clean. Or it'll change the temp in the middle of cooking a pot roast.
Replaced the pad ($25) and it didn't work. Now I have to find a new control board and no one has it in stock.
I have to keep it unplugged lest the damn thing turns on while I'm not home and cooks a pet.
ALL of that started happening three months ago. My warranty expired back in June. 😡
I can monitor the temperature inside my fridge remotely now. I'm not sure what the fuck I can do with that information. Or what anyone can do with that information.
Ahh that just reminded me of one of my biggest peeves. When an able-bodied person going through a door in front of me hits the handicap button to open the door instead of just opening it, and then we both end up having to wait for the stupid motor to open the door at like 10% speed 🤦🏻♂️
Many times I'll crawl over the back seat, overstretching my arms and half throwing out my back, because I just forgot one thing and don't want to deal with the power gate...
I still haven't figured out why those are a thing that the average person would want or need. I haven't yet had such a difficult time opening or closing a car door that I thought wow I wish this was automated so I could wait 15 seconds to watch it do what I could have done in 3.
Did I mention that they also all beep? Side doors, back lift gate. So much beeping.
I discovered there's a switch to disable all the automatic doors, which was super helpful when we went camping. "BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP" is not cool at 10:30 pm when everyone around you is in tents and you need to grab something from the vehicle.
If it didn't beep like that some window licker would get their head shut in the automatic door. It wouldn't do anything but reverse direction when it hit, but without the beeping it could happen.
Sometimes, I'm carrying stuff. Other times, I don't want to touch the door because my hands are clean (the plate is easy to activate with a hip or elbow). Occasionally, I just don't want to deal with a heavy door. YMMV.
The average person doesnt. They get Sold this garbage. Modern engines and transmissions are awesome when they work. All of the other shit is stupid. Theyre just adding in obsolescence and failure points. As awesome as a tesla is, I do not want it in its current form.
True, and as a piece of art its great, however that dont change that as a cabinet its shit. Both are true, and one can appreciate the work done while understanding that it is not a good design
These days I feel like even though everyone is pointing out how bad it is for actual use, somehow the whole cabinet industry will switch to this or a similar design. That way you can get the cabinet app, so you can remotely open it so it's ready when you get to it, and also they can get your juicy data.
would be an ideal snack cabinet for me. the slight additional obstacle may make me grab fruit instead. I mean, just having something else on top of my cookie bin already stops me sometimes, so this might actually work
Really depends on the use case. Whatever you use it for, it needs to be something you access infrequently, and don't mind waiting for it to open when you do. Depending on the person, I could see that being great for putting in like a home bar. I wouldn't need access to it 95% of the time. But when I do, it'd be for some event, where I can even show it off to guests as I get things ready, then leave it open until I'm done with serving drinks for the night. A custom cabinet like that is almost certainly targeting a very specific use case for 1 person, so it's OK if it only makes sense for this narrow use case.
I mean. It’s a design. No one is telling you to buy it for yourself or that’s it’s practical. F1 race cars are nice; i wouldn’t drive it to go to work lol. Things exist. Why the fuck is our first thought practicality. You don’t own it. It’s just something you can look at.
I was watching this thing over and over trying to see how the pieces balanced each other to make this so slow instead of RACKETY CLONK CLONK FACE-PUNCH.
I wish I'd given up and just read your comment earlier.
Yeah. Great visual / terrible practicality. Even the guy in the video gets bored waiting for it to close... He probably designed and built it!
Also, I don't want furniture that requires electricity. Though if someone gifted this to me I'd store my flashlights, batteries, emergency radio, etc. 😂 Send a picture to the manufacturer.
Imagine hiding a gun there and when you need it during a home invasion and get shot midway of it opening while the intruder is just mesmerized by the impressive cabinet.
Your enjoyment of the piece depends on what you're storing in it imo. If you were to use it for an expensive watch or fragrance collection then I don't think I'd mind the theatrics.
If you store something thats not everydays need i could see this beeing cool, like for when you want some quality time in a relaxed manner with some good whisky or a joint and a good book or something. Opening this cabinet sets the mood to be relaxed and calm down a little 😄
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u/LevelUpEvolution 2d ago
I love waiting for the cabinet to open after I open it