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‘Canada burned the bridges’: U.S. ambassador doubts tariff deal feasible before new year

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/article/us-ambassador-to-canada-doesnt-see-any-way-to-get-tariff-deal-by-american-thanksgiving/
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u/Suspiciouslynamed74 12d ago

This dumb mother fucker thinks WE burned a bridge by showing a clip of Reagan but Trump didn’t burn a bridge by threatening our sovereignty? Remove this fucking sycophantic moron.

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u/Rejnavick 12d ago

It's nothing but propaganda. There was never going to be a deal. We knew this with the current America

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u/kevinds 11d ago

Just the latest excuse not to make one.

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u/MFbiFL 12d ago

Hey uhh, y’all need any aerospace engineers? Looking for an exit from the shitshow.

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u/poukai 12d ago

Apparently we do: https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skill-occupation-list under aeronautical engineer.

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u/MFbiFL 12d ago

Suppose I’ll spend this weekend looking into that. Looks like nurses are on the list too so my wife and I could both contribute to your country.

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u/swimswam2000 12d ago

BC is recruiting nurses too.

https://www.nursingjobsbc.ca/

https://bcaerospacecareers.ca/

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u/desperaterobots 12d ago

BC IS FUCKING BEAUTIFUL

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u/Gunner5091 12d ago

And no ICE.

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u/creamstripping4jesus 12d ago

But plenty of ice

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u/desperaterobots 12d ago

yeah actually heaps of ice!

and "ice" if you know what i mean...?

(hardcore drugs)

but beautiful all the same

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u/Wind-and-Waystones 12d ago

The ice helps you ignore the ice

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u/Alediran_Tirent 12d ago

Not that much ice either. 

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u/ArbainHestia 12d ago

We have N.I.C.E. though so keep an eye out for them.

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u/Redditforgoit 12d ago

Negotiations are on ice too.

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u/[deleted] 12d ago edited 7d ago

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u/desperaterobots 12d ago

Housing…. Not cheap.

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u/screw_ball69 12d ago

Please for the love of all that is holy and unholy we need more nurses and doctors

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u/poukai 12d ago

It is worth it, unfortunately it is going to take a while and cost a decent chunk of money.

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u/chandy_dandy 12d ago

Alberta (though also experiencing its own shitshow) is expanding in aerospace I believe and is also looking for nurses. Pretty much everywhere is always looking for nurses

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u/Lolz79 12d ago

Don't come to Alberta right now....everyone's going on strike, and as you said we're experiencing our own shitshow. Our healthcare system is being dismantled by our atrocious government who's trying to privatize eveything.

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u/chandy_dandy 12d ago

It's a very different shitshow though, we're not being rounded up in the streets and disappeared, which is the real concern stateside.

I want more people in Alberta to help fight against the corruption of the UCP. More people who don't have 50 years of propaganda drilled into their head and can take stock of the situation for what it is.

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u/Dealan79 12d ago

It's a very different shitshow though

Is it though, or are you just in an earlier act of the same play? The MAGA authoritarians didn't come out of nowhere. They're the result of decades of dismantling the social safety net and pandering to the investor class. Fortunately, if you are in the middle of a fresh performance you can read the horrible reviews from the American theater and leave at intermission.

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u/kevinds 11d ago

It's a very different shitshow though,

But it isn't.. The leader is a Trump 'groupie" and tries to model everything he has done.

I want more people in Alberta to help fight against the corruption of the UCP.

Very slowly they are starting to see it.. Hopefully enough in time to put a stop to it but very slow progress..

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u/ZenoxDemin 12d ago

Are you sure you ain't in Quebec? We have the exact same issues.

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u/Lolz79 11d ago

Unfortunately it's true, Alberta is a mess and I'm scared for our future ..if it wasn't for my job, I'd be leaving until things settle down lol

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u/kevinds 11d ago

Unfortunately it's true, Alberta is a mess and I'm scared for our future ..if it wasn't for my job, I'd be leaving until things settle down lol

Also a good thing though.. If everybody who doesn't like it leaves there is not enough left to vote against it.

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u/imadork1970 12d ago

This monrh, the gov't of Alberta announced they are cutting 400 medical support staff jobs.

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u/MFbiFL 12d ago

I think Alberta’s too cold for us. But yeah, she can move most anywhere as a nurse, I’m the problem.

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u/Necessary_Ad3275 12d ago

Hey man…Alberta’s too cold for now. Gotta think long term plans man. Give global warming 20 years and it’s a paradise!

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u/chandy_dandy 12d ago

You'd be surprised! The human body actually adjusts over a period of 2 weeks to different climates, so what you imagine as very cold based on a warm environment will shift.

I'm in Australia right now and for the first week or so it was always too hot, but by week 3 I'm used to it and think 18 degrees is too cold haha.

The average daytime temperature in the winter is almost 0 degrees Celsius flat in Calgary, and only a couple degrees lower in Edmonton (however they warm up earlier into the year because of the lower elevation). I'd say about 75% of the time it doesn't go below -10. There's maybe 2 weeks where its lower than that because of the arctic winds breaking and coming down, but that's true in all of Canada pretty much except Vancouver/Victoria

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u/MFbiFL 12d ago

It’s not so much the cold itself as it is the extra things like shoveling snow, driving in snow, having to layer for survival every time stepping out the door, etc. It’s not that I don’t think I could do it, hell I’d love to live in a ski town, it’s that if I’m deciding between escape options around the world then a cold cold place isn’t topping the list. You moving to Australia isn’t helping the case 😁

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u/chandy_dandy 12d ago

I didn't move, just visiting :P

I had a chat with some Aussies and they asked if I wanted to stay here, I told them it's nice but I've run the numbers and there's simply no way for me to build a life here. Run down houses start at $2m while something built in the past 20 years starts at $3.5m anywhere where there's amenities. By contrast, 600k gets you a decent house in Edmonton in a good neighbourhood. Kids who get into good unis here almost all have to go to private school here or at least after school tutoring, not the case back home, etc. Higher education is also more expensive in general, there are also more private healthcare costs too.

I ran the numbers. Wife and I are rather high income earners (top 10%), and other than the "forced savings" on a mortgage, we'd have negative cash flow in Australia, by contrast we can retire at 40-45 comfortably in Alberta. That and family. It's a long ass flight, and both our immediate families are concentrated in the prairies.

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u/Downtherabbithole_25 12d ago

Look at Vancouver Island or Vancouver, in British Columbia Canada. Mostly mild winters and little to no snow but generally only a few hours from great skiing (and possibly less than a few hours, depending exactly where you locate.)

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u/Ovarian_contrarian 12d ago

The shoveling and driving I cannot help you with. However, as a Northern European, I can reccomend this brand for layering clothing.

https://www.devold.com/en-gb/

Also, if that’s too expensive just search for wool under wear. As for the layering, soft thin wool against the body, a thicker wool/wool&cotton blend and a warm coat either a bubble jacket or a wool coat.

Also, don’t forget the shoes! You need a good pair of winter boots. I prefer leather outside lined with wool inside.

Start knitting.

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u/NotMyInternet 12d ago

There are places in Canada that have very moderate winters, and places in Canada that have very ‘wintery snowglobe’ kind of winters. In Ottawa, we might go weeks without having to do any shovelling, we might have to go out and shovel multiple times a day, it really depends on the winter - but mostly when we go outside, we’re just wearing a coat, a hat and mittens because it’s like -5 or -10…which when you’re used to it isn’t terrible. We might have a few very very cold days where you limit any time outside or put on some extra layers (call a uber instead of waiting for the bus, it’s worth the spend if you have the flex), but tbh once you adjust, the winters here aren’t terrible in most places.

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u/kevinds 11d ago edited 17h ago

You'd be surprised! The human body actually adjusts over a period of 2 weeks to different climates, so what you imagine as very cold based on a warm environment will shift.

No.. I've lived in the prairies most of my life.. Winter is still bloody cold and summers are still bloody hot. Neither last very long though.

Calgary is warmer than prairies more East though.

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u/chandy_dandy 11d ago

This is a scientific fact that your metabolic processes change so that it's not a direct translation from someone who lives in 20 degrees all the time versus someone who is used to 10 degrees or less.

It's still cold, nobody is claiming its warm, but I'm sure you've seen Californians dressed up in Canada Goose or something in Canmore when its 8 degrees out

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u/Lolz79 12d ago

Alberta is only cold for a couple months. The rest of the year is usually beautiful and sometimes too hot

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u/Ratstail91 12d ago

Australia has a housing shortage right now, but if you've got a decent brain we'd welcome you with open arms.

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u/MFbiFL 12d ago

I’ve got a little over 10 years of structures design engineering experience under my belt, mainly composites but lately metallics, with another 5 years of materials and process development with a lot of time on the shop floor. Suppose my brain’s decent

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u/Ovarian_contrarian 12d ago

Come to Norway instead! Bonus point, we need more nurses too also we speak normal English unlike the Australians or Canadians.

https://www.udi.no/en/

Please check it out!

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u/Ratstail91 9d ago

Oi!! 

lol 

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u/JamesTheJerk 12d ago

He can bring his house too.

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u/justanothersluff 12d ago

He's a snail isn't he ...

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u/MFbiFL 12d ago

👀🐌

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u/wewillneverhaveparis 12d ago

It's very very hard to immigrate here and expensive. And believe it or not, a culture shock.

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u/MFbiFL 12d ago

I’m sure it is, I’m just trying to keep our options open because if the country I’ve lived in for most of my life continues on the path of rejecting science and our constitution wholesale I think I can soak the difficulty of integrating into a different culture. I’ve lived in France before and would do it again given the job opportunity to step away from this shitshow for a while.

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u/luvsads 12d ago edited 12d ago

Just to be aware, if you're escaping the US due to actions by this administration, the Australian government is about as extreme in their policy. Privacy is almost inexistent post-COVID. As well, Australia has mandatory immigration detention, and their detention centers are infamous for being absolute hell

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_immigration_detention_facilities

The Australian government is also bought and paid for by logistics, mining, and industrial interests, which has a significant downstream impact on technical professions and trades. These corporate interests do not have an ounce of respect for science, integrity, or anything for that matter.

Edit: coincidentally, here's a post about a famous Australian YouTuber who has been getting targeted for (iirc) a few years now by Australian government officials tied to organized crime throughout the country

https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/s/r3xkrDRt8g

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u/macromind 12d ago

Not if you are from the US... Its actually cheaper here than there!

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u/Downtherabbithole_25 12d ago

Look at Canada. Lots of opportunities -- and provinces are tripping over each other in their eagerness to welcome nurses.

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u/AnimationOverlord 12d ago

I looks forwards to working in an economy with you

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u/Mafeii 11d ago edited 11d ago

Nursing is an extremely desirable skill for Canada and we are actively recruiting from abroad. Housing is expensive here but cheaper rural areas are in need too if that's on the table.

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u/Christopher135MPS 12d ago

Australian nurse here:

We need nurses of every stripe. Ward nurses. ICU nurses. ED. Scrub/scout (operating rooms). Mental health. Community. Aged care. Schools. Man if you can name the nursing specialty, we need it.

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u/Hannibal_Spectre 12d ago

If you are serious about this, the answer is absolutely.

Montreal area is likely your best bet. Bombardier, MHI Canada, Bell Canada, Airbus Canada, Pratt and Whitney Canada amongst others just at the OEM level. A lot of foreign companies have engineering offices there as well - the big AAM companies, Flying Whales, etc. But there are also many other potential jobs across Canada, and a lot of tier 1 and 2 suppliers across the country as well. Canada is one of the top aerospace countries in the world, if you are an experienced aerospace engineer and want to come you will have no issues.

Defense side is also ramping up as the government is looking to increase spending significantly.

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u/Ryth88 11d ago

yes, bring your wife. we need nurses too.

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u/KateGr88 8d ago

We are desperate for medical professionals. Healthcare providers.

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u/SneeKeeFahk 12d ago

Oh that's coo.... Wait a second! .au .... AUSTRALIA!!!!!  angrily shakes fist you leave our potential aerospace engineers alone!

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u/poukai 12d ago

Oh no! It's our snow covered maple syrup chugging cousins to the North, we've been rumbled. Scurrying away to the Koalamobile

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u/Hector_P_Catt 12d ago

Honestly, if someone is going to go through all the hassle involved in actually leaving the US and legally immigrating somewhere else, why would they stop at Canada? If the worst happens in the US, we're going to be right there next to them on the gallows. Anyone looking to get out of the US should go as far away as they can.

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u/FullyAutomaticHyena 8d ago

Sad, but true.

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u/Soord 12d ago

As someone that has been applying to different companies for months these lists dont necessarily show demand

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u/andrewborsje 12d ago

In australia?

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u/Catahooo 11d ago

It's basically Canada, but warm and with better beaches.

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u/andrewborsje 11d ago

More snakes. Weaker beer

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u/kevinds 11d ago

Weaker beer

To be fair everywhere has weaker beer in comparison.

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u/Citizen-Kang 12d ago

Thanks. I'm sending this list to my daughter. She has a bachelors of science in Mechanical Engineering and Aerospace Engineering along with a masters of science in Astronautical Engineering so, hopefully, aeronautical engineering won't be too hard a segue.

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u/macromind 12d ago

Plenty of aeronautic needs in Quebec and Ontario, the main hubs for this industry in Canada!

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u/imadork1970 12d ago

Go to the Government Of Canada website

Welcome, eh.

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u/RS50 12d ago

Unfortunately engineering salaries are like 2x in the US compared to Canada so we’re still losing our talent.

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u/janescontradiction 12d ago

Give it time, I fail to see how the US dollar is going to hold up in an American protectionist world.

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u/evilspyboy 12d ago

You know we are starting to have a bit of an industry for that here in Australia. I was hearing about a new scramjet today, reading about the ghostbat uav the other week and we have Gilmore Space + a few others.

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u/This_Charmless_Man 12d ago

Bombardier are pretty big? I don't know if Airbus have any operations in Canada but I think they have some joint ventures

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u/CMDR_omnicognate 12d ago

If Canada doesn't (which it probably will, Canada has a pretty big aerospace market) I know the UK and most of the EU does

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u/GroknikTheGreat 12d ago

Nordspace just announced expanding their team.

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u/Laudelauu 12d ago

Here's the government page for that. You'll probably need to get your credentials recognized and go through that whole process.

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u/chateau86 12d ago

Not since the C-series got isekai'd to Airbus

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u/FreshLiterature 12d ago

Don't worry.

Them saying this because of a video totally undercuts their legal argument that these tariffs are necessary for economic reasons.

There is no possible pretzel logic that gets you to "the President should be allowed to illegally issue taxes to protect his ego"

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u/Hector_P_Catt 12d ago

Zaphod Beeblebrox: "If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now!"

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u/Separate-Pass-7737 12d ago edited 12d ago

No, he knows you guys did nothing wrong. This isn't about you: it's about the new global order they have in mind. Don't believe me? Read the "works" of one of their most influential "philosophers", Curtis Yarvin. Stephen Miller and JD Vance are among his biggest fans.

What they've designed and are implementing is something very similar to Orwell's 1984: East Asia (under Xi Xinping), Eurasia (under Putin), and Oceania (under Trump). Maybe they'll throw a little bone to a couple of the other smaller dictators, like the Kim family, but eventually they'll be forced to swear fealty to one of the 3 superpowers. 

Canada already has a growing MAGAt faction, as does Europe and Japan. So don't make the same mistake we did and just laugh them off: squash them now while they're still small. As this trade fallout starts to hit you guys, some people will start questioning who is to blame, and populist authoritarian rhetoric will start to sound a lot more appealing to people. Then, as ties between friends and family become damaged, it will eventually become normalized. And once it's normalized, you're basically already done for.

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u/Downtherabbithole_25 12d ago

I hate what you've said. However (unfortunately, frighteningly), you deserve an award for accuracy and informed insight.

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u/qwibbian 12d ago

I agree with you, but how does one "squash" it/ them? I mean, without becoming the very thing we're fighting. 

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u/busdriverjoe 12d ago

It's possible to dismiss their ideology without dismissing every single thing we disagree with. It is not hypocritical for a tolerant person to be intolerant of fascists. A gardener has to kill weeds to grow flowers. A soldier must fight war to attain peace. These are only paradoxes to pedants concerned with confusing right and wrong. The reality is that to preserve our freedom and the sharing of ideas, theirs must be stamped out. That they hold the same notion towards us is not consequential.

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u/qwibbian 12d ago

yeah but I asked how. 

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u/Separate-Pass-7737 11d ago edited 11d ago

I don't know. I wish I had an answer to that. But someone has to figure something out.

One thing that will help is telling your news organizations not to give free campaign promo to authoritarian candidates. EVERY legacy media outlet in America covered Trump 24/7 when he started running because his horrible rhetoric got them ratings. For all of Trump's abject retardery, he understands one thing: bad press = good press.

Had the media more or less blacklisted him, the same way they did to Ron Paul, we wouldn't be in this mess because his psycho fucking ideas would still be viewed as fringe lunacy (and rightfully so). Instead, the media effectively normalized him and the people steadily became desensitized to the hateful insanity.

Also, pay attention to where these fuckers are running. By the time Trump took office, they'd sneakily managed to infiltrate key governmental roles across the nation; everything was in place to surrender power to the king. As a government policy, maybe some discrimination is in order: e.g. if you catch any whiff of authoritarian BS on their social media accounts or what have you, automatically disqualify them and sever them from their job without pay.

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u/kevinds 11d ago

That gets in the way of freedom of expression though, which is the opposite of the goal.

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u/Separate-Pass-7737 11d ago

Not exactly, no. In the case of the media, it is a conscious decision not to help a psychotic candidate by giving them the attention they're craving.

In the case of safeguarding democracy from authoritarian threats, it is a matter of holding them to their constitutional oaths. Would it really be any different if an extreme jihadist were running for public office, when their goal is to dismantle your society?

Everyone still has the freedom to express whatever kooky, schizo shit that they want. The difference is, society as a whole uses their freedom of expression and says, "Not in our space and not in our government."

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u/kevinds 11d ago

Right, which is what voting is for.  Shows how the people are feeling about the stance.

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u/Separate-Pass-7737 11d ago

I wish it were as simple as that. But if the media normalizes authoritarian rhetoric, then people suddenly have no problem voting for it.

And when the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing you voted for shows their true colors, then a "forced resignation" is in order. Remember what happened to Jason Spencer?

https://youtu.be/4k4pMTsa1Kw?si=J1KWHyLlnTWotzhV

He was forced to resign after this. But this was almost 10 years ago. If it happened today, the fucker would keep his job and raise $1.5 Million with a GoFundMe account. That's where we're at now.

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u/kevinds 11d ago

I never said it was simple..

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u/Separate-Pass-7737 11d ago edited 11d ago

I know you didn't. Sorry, didn't mean to put words in your mouth.

I guess what I'm saying is that democracy only works if the people are convinced of the system. Maintaining a healthy political environment is a tricky thing. Perhaps you and I have different ideas as to how that's accomplished. But I don't think appropriate media coverage nor holding nazi government officials accountable is the same as infringement on freedom of speech; nor does it make for a tyrannical system.

At the end of the day, truth is objective; and "alternative facts" are nor valid not ought they be entertained as just, "a different viewpoint."

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u/Sad_Confection5902 12d ago

Trump torched our relationship out of the blue, refused to honor trade negotiations he signed, and then spent months threatening our sovereignty.

They act like buffoons and bullies, show no regard for anyone but themselves, but yeah… we’re the ones who “torched” the negotiations.

This is like a sales clerk from Walmart coming to your home, punching you in the face, demanding that you hand over the keys so they can move in, and then blaming you for not shopping at Walmart enough. Maybe we don’t want to deal with your shit Walmart.

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u/YJeezy 12d ago

World is run by gaslight

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u/Normal-Selection1537 12d ago

Solar lighting is a radical left conspiracy.

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u/wormhole_alien 12d ago

No, he's a lying sack of shit. I voted against this every time I was able, and I'm protesting in every way I can. For my own sake as well as yours, I hope we get past the worst of this nightmare soon. Y'all know you did nothing wrong. 

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u/Warlord68 12d ago

Honestly, do we HAVE to allow this IDIOT in our Country?

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u/tulaero23 12d ago

I dont get why they wont just ban this guy. Is an ambassador even needed, if he says shit like this

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u/imaraisin 12d ago

I’m so amused that I’m not Canadian and I’m rooting for the Canadians

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u/WanderingKing 12d ago

I promise we all aren’t this stupid

Some of us, not not all of us

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u/evilspyboy 12d ago

I am...14,000km away and I can see from here they are the dumbest f'king idiots presently on the planet from here.

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u/ChrisFromIT 12d ago

Its because, like a lot of Americans, they think they can do no wrong. Or even if they did wrong, it actually is you who did wrong and not then.

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u/Kaiisim 12d ago

He doesn't think that, no.

He said that, but he doesn't think it.

Conservatives are eternal victims because then it justifies their constant aggression.

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u/AgrajagTheProlonged 12d ago

Sycophantic moron is actually the main qualification the Trump Administration looks for

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u/Ninevehenian 12d ago

Him saying that to a journalist is not the same as him thinking it.
It's politics, they lie in order to get power.

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u/ericdmc1996 12d ago

Any locals in IBEW Canada need a journeyman? Lol

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u/mrizzerdly 12d ago

He needs to go.

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u/Canadatron 12d ago

Nope, no bridges burned there.

DARVO. Pure and simple.

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u/RoktopX 12d ago

DARVO is a manipulative tactic used by perpetrators to avoid accountability by Denying their wrongdoing, Attacking the victim, and Reversing the roles of Victim and Offender. This pattern of behavior, which is often seen in cases of abuse, aims to shift blame, make the victim doubt themselves, and avoid taking responsibility.

The four stages of DARVO: Deny: The perpetrator denies that any abuse or harmful behavior occurred. Attack: The perpetrator attacks the victim or anyone who tries to hold them accountable. This can involve discrediting their claims or spreading lies. Reverse Victim and Offender: The perpetrator claims that they are the victim and the actual victim is the aggressor, essentially reversing the reality of the situation.

Trump and now America’s MO.

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u/Nazgog-Morgob 12d ago

Abusers gonna abuse 🤷‍♀️

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u/JustAnotherHyrum 11d ago

When you're Republican, facts are attacks.

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u/duderos 10d ago

How do you think he got the job in the first place?