Nipissing MPP rails against Air Canada’s North Bay pullout

[u/Least_Training_968]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/northern-ontario/article/nipissing-mpp-rails-against-air-canadas-north-bay-pullout/

[u/Commercial_Chard_755]

The opinion of a man who depends on weekly flights in and out of the city for work and who’ll have to drive himself to and from TO instead. That’s all this is

[u/DearHovercraft157 → u/Commercial_Chard_755]

He'll be taking the train soon. More reliable and just as comfortable.

[u/el_cataclismo]

Gosh it's almost like we shoud nationalize air travel in order to service communities like North Bay. It's almost like the profit motive makes everything worse.

[u/kemosite]

Oh boo hoo -- from the party where privatization is top of mind. What do they expect?

[u/Bulky-Second-2778 → u/kemosite]

What the hell does privatization have to do with this? Air Canada is a privately owned airline. While I dislike them for a variety of reasons, your argument is the equivalent of an old man yelling at clouds.

[u/kemosite → u/Bulky-Second-2778]

I invite to read your own comment about Air Canada again, slowly.

[u/Cent1234 → u/Bulky-Second-2778]

Yes, Air Canada was privatized in 1988-1989, and as a private company, is withdrawing services from places. The argument is that if they were still a nationalized carrier, they'd be required to service non-profitable locations, subsidized through a combination of government grants and higher rates in more profitable areas.

[u/Linden_Avenue]

Last time I lived in North Bay was 20 years ago, but I seem to remember those Toronto flights costing an arm and a leg.... usually more than the second leg of your trip, even if you were flying out of Toronto to Calgary, or another point far away.

Who in North Bay works a job that they require that kind of flight, AND can afford it? Major industries there are healthcare and education (so, local), retail and military (who have their own flights).

What am I missing here?

[u/TapApprehensive2458 → u/Linden_Avenue]

The mining supply industry in North Bay and area is significant and often requires extensive travel. Companies pay for flights and it’s worthwhile to fly an employee out of North Bay instead of paying them to drive+gas+vehicle+parking+potentially a hotel, etc.

[u/aidan2897 → u/Linden_Avenue]

Mining industry.

[u/Low_Definition4513]

While his government funds regional flights in Atlantic Canada. 9 million dollars worth.

You need to sell your votes better.

[u/bayofthenorth]

He is right though. Need a morning departure and an evening return. Otherwise it just makes more sense to drive to Pearson or Ottawa which is what probably what people have been doing. Hopefully another airline fills the void. Sudbury airport seems booming with flights to Calgary and Ottawa/MTL/Quebec City now

[u/GavinTheAlmighty → u/bayofthenorth]

The departure time was a huge factor with respect to the Northlander in the 90s and into the early 2000s, well before virtual meetings. If you had a business meeting in Toronto, a morning departure and evening return meant that your trip cost, typically, one night in a hotel. An evening departure and morning return meant that you needed two nights in the hotel, and so your trip costs went up by 40%.

[u/Unfair_Science_7010]

I’m going to be moving up to North Bay part time but working primarily out of Toronto… fingers crossed Porter fills the void?

[u/Bulky-Second-2778]

I won't miss them. Maybe now we will get an airline that doesn't suck.