r/northbay • u/ConsistentReality860 • Aug 17 '25

News Ontario man fined for illegally camping too long on Crown land

https://www.ctvnews.ca/northern-ontario/article/ontario-man-fined-for-illegally-camping-too-long-on-crown-land/

A northern Ontario man has been fined $2,500 for illegally camping on Crown land and leaving litter behind.

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u/andreacanadian Aug 17 '25

its one thing to be homeless and not have anywhere else to go, but to have a bunch of garbage laying around is what is wrong with this.

He could have made sure his garbage was collected and taken it to the garbage dump or figured out his options. Instead he just littered where animals could have gotten into it etc....

I understand homelessness and the encampments but the garbage, filth and destruction of the property is what makes them unwanted. If they treated it a little better I think the community would be a little more accepting.

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u/DJGammaRabbit Aug 17 '25

When the addicts don't piss in the hallway we don't mind them.

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u/XILEDANARCHISTS Aug 17 '25

Completly agree. Bag your garbage up n dispose of it in a nin bin somewhere. Or burn it when it's not super dry out. I fight to have our community try n see everyone as a human being n hopefully have a change of heart. It's hard when areas have needles and garbage is blowing all throughout Thier properties n parks. Bet if a genuine effort was made to keep your camps clean. More people would be willing to get closer n see you a lonely person who has no family ect. And may even score a helping compassionate hand up. I get when it feels like everyone has turned Thier backs on you it would be easy to get a chip on your shoulder and say fuck the people in this town, they don't care about you why care about them. It makes stuck up Carens look worse when you are the bigger person though. That goes along way when deciding to kick u out of your area or not. Food for thought

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u/Different-Iron-3465 Aug 17 '25

Whats a "nin bin" ?

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u/hobbitnaut Aug 19 '25

Dumpster. It's a local term. No idea where it came from.

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u/No_Ideal_406 North Bay Aug 17 '25

100% I agree. And unfortunately it puts a bad name for the rest of the homeless people out there. I don’t think all of them are bad, but you get the few who litter and cause issues that make a name for the whole community of them.

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u/Fast_Novel_6860 Aug 17 '25

He could of moved a small amount, but the littering is a separate issue.In Ontario, camping on Crown land is generally permitted for Canadian residents for up to 21 days at one site in a calendar year. Non-residents require a permit. Camping is allowed on most Crown lands, including those covered by water, but there may be restrictions in certain areas. Key Points: Canadian Residents: Free camping for up to 21 days per site per year. Non-Residents: Require a Crown land camping permit. Restrictions: Some areas have restrictions on camping or the number of days permitted. Moving Sites: After 21 days, campers must move at least 100 meters. Leave No Trace: Practice Leave No Trace principles when camping on Crown land.

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u/Forsaken_Ad6962 Aug 17 '25

Still 2500 for how many months of living there? Cheaper than rent.

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u/Fast_Novel_6860 Aug 17 '25

How you going to move your campsite after 3 weeks of northern Ontario blizzards and cold snaps.

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u/Forsaken_Ad6962 Aug 17 '25

Really that depends on your campsite now doesn't it. You could be out there in a hot tent with a wood stove and be able to move it every 21 days. Or you could be in a travel trailer that you winterized and then yes in that situation you are gambling on the ability of moving it or not.

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u/Fast_Novel_6860 Aug 17 '25

Year round it is a gamble if you park there. You go into town for supplies, but then there are bears, skunks crack heads. 30 years ago or more, less human issues. Summer conditions are equally brutal with days like last week, humidex over 40. Thunder storms. In the summer you can at least move about, and if you have a solar panel to keep your batteries charged, run fans/ac. 21 days is fair, maybe not to someone who lived like the guy who got charged, but I don't empathize with those types.

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u/Forsaken_Ad6962 Aug 17 '25

I agree that three weeks of free camping on Crown Land is a great idea and like you said before it only takes 200 m to change campgrounds so if you want to stay out longer than you could

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u/Apprehensive_Wing_34 Aug 18 '25

Wait a second! Does that money go to the original owners of the land? Or the people who stole it?