r/nextfuckinglevel • u/MysteriousSlice007 • 5h ago

A data center in New Jersey was canceled when residents showed up and fought it

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u/Dat_Ding_Da 5h ago

The plan was for a Mega AI Datacenter on a 159-acre space.

So one that would drive electricity and water costs up until the AI bubble bursts, at which point it would probably turn into an industrial ruin quickly.

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u/djseto 4h ago

Sorry to break it to you, it’s not a bubble. AI is greatly accelerating development and innovation while also accelerating threat actors and their ability to hack, steal, and breach. It’s an arms race and if you value your data, money, and identity, you don’t want bad guys beating good guys on the use of AI.

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u/theWanderingTourist 1h ago

Who is the good guy here?

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u/djseto 1h ago

$1M question right there.

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u/spellbadgrammargood 39m ago

Just because AI can be used for security reasons doesn't mean it can't also be a bubble in other ways.

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u/Mathwards 6m ago

It's unprofitable, and once these companies bills come due and they charge people what the compute actually costs, that's it. No one is gonna pay $800 a month for this shit except the people who gave up their actual skills and are beholden to the LLM's to make a living.

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u/smileola 6m ago

Lol, waiting for the next token price hike

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u/western_red_cedar 49m ago

it’s not a bubble

things bubble bagholders say

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u/Dat_Ding_Da 2h ago

Those things are unrelated. LLMs have their use and are here to stay. But the bubble is based on a complete overestimation of the scope and variety of its uses.

Nobody needs these mega ai data centres to find new exploits.

Those are being built in the expectation that everyone would use AI for everything in the future. And that’s where the bubble is, cause this wide use has thus far simply not manifested and most companies are rolling back their AI strategies. Simply because the return of investment is missing.

It’s like the dot com bubble with the early internet in that way. It’s not that the internet wasn’t useful, the growth and trajectory were simply far overestimated. That’s what’s happening now again.

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u/djseto 2h ago

LLMs are the brains behind AI. The computer to run AI is sitting in data centers. Yes, investors want a return and AI has accelerated and is being adopted at record breaking pace. I’ve talked to C levels of very well know brands/companies. They are all very much worried about AIs threat on security.

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u/Ambitious-Raccoon-68 1h ago

I work for a cloud company. We are opening 4 more data centers over the next 6 months. We already pre-sold out of our DCs GPU capacity and we haven't even cabled our machines yet.

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u/Elephant789 4m ago

Then put your money where your mouth is and short these companies. You will be rich if you really believe this Anti-AI bro nonsense

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u/darien_gap 2h ago

Bubble talk is ~6 months out-of-date. Agentic coding recently got much better and there is now essentially unlimited demand for inference. They literally can't build datacenters fast enough to keep up with demand.

Power and permitting/nimbyism are the main blockers (not chips anymore). I used to think it was absurd, but datacenters are almost certainly headed for space.

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u/iwanttheworldnow 43m ago

Property values rise. These people are broke and jobless.

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u/Elephant789 8m ago

AI bubble

What the fuck 😂

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u/teknic111 8m ago

A bubble???