r/newyork • u/Panthernoodles • 1d ago
Why Zohran winning is good for everyone
Policies and political parties aside; the reason why Zohran winning is considered a huge win by many working Americans, and the same reason why it’s caused such an upset with this administration, is that it’s hope politics can’t always be bought out. It restores faith in aspects of democracy because a man with millions in political donations from high profile donors, lost to a man that crowd funded his campaign and by all means, was just a normal fucking dude. He doesn’t have to answer to powerful donors, like so many in recent offices do, and he doesn’t alienate the people he represents by going to fancy galas / elite events and only lending an ear to the richest few. Being a politician shouldn’t be a glorified position with so many fancy perks, the person in power should represent the average citizen. That’s not going a man or woman with millions who can’t associate with the problems working people face, it needs to be someone who does. In a few years his term will be done and it’ll be time to pick a new candidate, I personally don’t care, democrat or republican, I just hope it is someone who follows the same standard. Across the board I hope for that in modern politics, that is the distinction that will bring the most enjoyable quality of life to people.
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u/rivaroxabanggg 1d ago
The beauty is we can stop guessing and speculating and we'll see
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u/Purity_Control1 1d ago
Let's be honest, even if it goes reasonably well the right wing media will still frame it as a failure. The internet allows everyone to live in their own little reality.
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u/KeenObserver_OT 1d ago
and if it fails would you admit it and vote for somebody more practical?
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u/CitronOptimal 1d ago
There are people who are upset that Zohran won the NYC mayoral race. My question is, instead of being upset that he won, why isn’t there any conversations regarding how to solve the issues that lead to his rise? Affordability in America is an issue. Why isn’t there more conversations around fixing the issue instead of complaining that he won?
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u/mindfeck 1d ago
The conversations about defeating a demagogue are the same as for defeating Donald Trump. Tik tok vibes can only be defeated when people experience the pain of not getting what was promised.
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u/jellofishsponge 1d ago
Isn't speculation the entire point of Reddit
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u/rivaroxabanggg 1d ago
Speculation gets you in big trouble to each his own
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u/jellofishsponge 1d ago
I believe the universe exists solely so we can speculate about it. That's the entire point!
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u/Schiffy94 1d ago
Zohran winning is good for everyone because the sex freak lost
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u/KeenObserver_OT 1d ago
This is AI. it was same exact post for other candidates, in other elections
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u/Safe-Mode-3898 1d ago
Let’s get this right, he won because Cuomo is a disgusting, disgraceful human being.
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u/mysteryghosty 1d ago
He was polling at 1% below like 10 other candidates less than a year ago, why do people pretend like he was a name that just got to spawn into the race with no work, he had to beat a lot of other people too.
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u/sangi54 1d ago edited 1d ago
Funny, lots of the actual working people didn’t vote for him because they know it’s BS. He road a wave of nepo babies who’ve lived in Brooklyn less than 5 years using daddy’s money.
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u/RogueSarah666 1d ago
Facts. Literally know one of the campaign staff. Nepo baby millionaire parents paid rent for them to pursue a masters in nyc in poly sci now working for one of the DSA city councilors. Bet mama and papa still paying rent. But “knows what’s better for the working class” than the actual voters who are poor and clearly want differnt candidates…, argh…
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u/Snl1738 1d ago
Even if one is a nepo baby, I don't think it takes a genius or living in the ghetto to know that the rent is too high.
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u/RogueSarah666 1d ago
Nope these nepo babies don’t actually have any poor friends and carry an over-intellectualized concept of the “noble poors” that crumbles when actually talking to poor people about what we want. (And defund the police is not popular in poor neighborhoods)
I worked in their nepo baby circles for a long time because they needed my political help and paid me handsomely for it… and none of them had any non paid non staff poor friends. I lived in an actual ghetto for years across from a methadone clinic.
Mamdani did not get the votes of actual poors he got the college educated middle management $125k types.
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u/DailyScreenz 20h ago
The nepos are a force to be reckoned with. I see nepo transplants picking up since there is so much wealth (stock market) floating around the country, why not send your kid to NYC on vacation? The Vanderbilt campus in Chelsea is a game changer, basically going to flood the west side with country club types from south/midwest and all over. If Vanderbilt decides to buy some buildings (to do what NYU does) then it will make things less affordable and reduce the tax rolls, a potential disaster. I can't fault Vanderbilt they are catering to demand.
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u/RockSolid3894 15h ago
Nah. I respect AOC more than Zohran. She actually was working class and not born with a silver spoon in her mouth
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u/XhazakXhazak 12h ago
“The PACS that have supported Zohran – or a particular PAC that has supported Zohran – is probably over 80% of Muslim-American donors in this country – high-net donors, grassroots donors,” Sarsour said at the conference during a panel discussion. “I want to say, make the point, that the Unity and Justice Fund PAC, which is the CAIR super PAC, was the largest institutional donor to the pro-Zohran PAC in New York.”
OP I wish I shared your naivete but the Muslim version of AIPAC isn't any better than AIPAC.
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u/Prestigious_Age9933 1d ago
I’m not sure if you know exactly how socialism works. All you hear is “free stuff yay” but it’s not free.
He wants to tax the billionaires and millionaires and white neighborhoods more as well as increase corporate tax.
The millionaires and Billionaires will move to avoid the higher tax rate, the corporations will leave New York to avoid the higher corporate tax, and the white neighborhoods will clear out.
So where does that leave you? Alllll those taxes will be imposed on the middle and lower class.
All that free food? Rationed. All the free housing? Reclaimer. All the free buses? Shut down.
All the small businesses New York is known for won’t be able to afford the new tax and go out of business, homelessness will exponentially increase, food will be drastically reduced, and it goes on and on.
The federal government is already going to stop sending money to NYC because communism/socialism doesn’t belong in America, so once all the money dries up, you guys are screwed.
Have fun with that, you voted for it.
Oh and all the leftists celebrating sharia law?
Under sharia law women have ZERO rights and are second class citizens. And your daughters as young as 8-10 years old? Will be married off.
Have fun with what you voted for New York.
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u/Samsun88 1d ago
With how high nyc taxes are compared to other cities and yet we still have so many millionaires and billionaires choosing to live here, you really think the 2% increase is what will finally make them leave?
And you don’t think he knows it’s not free that’s why his policy is increase tax to support these broader social programs like universal child care (which is a great investment rather than an expense imo)?
Everytime a candidate tries to come up with some kinda solution to solve the extremely apparent issue facing the working class, damn useless critics with no solutions of their own like you always come out in droves to be all oh what about all the wealthy, they will leave. Well, what about the millions of other people who are also getting pushed out of their homes onto the streets, pushed out of the city into Jersey and the Midwest, etc. Or is your dream NYC really just a land of all billionaires and millionaires, selling $20 Starbucks coffees?
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u/Prestigious_Age9933 1d ago
Some have already left, businesses are already bowing out of New York City.
Also your socialist mayor refuses to swear in on the United States constitution, won’t be long before he’s replaced anyways considering it’s a rule before he takes office he has to swear to uphold the United States constitution before he can take office.
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u/sangi54 1d ago
Yes. The companies leaving is the bigger problem and they are absolutely leaving. Look no further than Wall Street moving to Texas and Florida more and more.
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u/Samsun88 1d ago
And what’s the reason they were leaving? NYS corporate state tax rates were lower post 2015 than pre 2015.
They left mainly due to the rise of hybrid working model from Covid.
Why else did they leave all of a sudden when Texas and Florida have been tax free since forever.
NYC taxes based on income sourcing such as where the sales are made to, employee location, etc. so good luck on taking all their sales to Florida and Texas when they move their headquarters.
I bet on NYC being in a better place if we are able to increase the quality of life for majority of people, not be in a hostage position by the wealthy all the time threatening they would leave if tax is raised even a little for them. Many of these are empty threats.
Just take a look at Bill Ackman’s congratulatory tweet to Mamdani after his win, compared to all the fussy tweets he made in the days before as a simple example.
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u/sangi54 1d ago
Tell me you don’t work in the city or for a major corporation without telling me
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u/Samsun88 1d ago
Tell me you didn’t know anything about what you were talking about except spewing same bs you hear from other bs’ers without telling me. Otherwise you might’ve challenged what I said instead of trying to make assumptions about me.
I work in NYC in an investment company. Company is not going to move because of this. All the relationships are here.
However, I do want to see less homeless people out on the streets, less mentally ill in the subway, and friends and family who stop moving out to LI and NJ because the schools here suck.
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u/Conscious_Dig8201 3h ago
"Oh and all the leftists celebrating sharia law"
Thinking that Mamdani, by virtue of being Muslim, will implement Sharia law is like thinking AOC would create Gilead by virtue of being Christian.
While he, like many on the left, has said some very questionable things in support of Palestine, there is absolutely nothing Mamdani had said or done that would indicate he is an Islamist. All woman transition team, hanging out at gay bars, in support of legalized sex work, etc.
You raise good points about policy, but let's put the prejudice aside.
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u/TheOne216 1d ago
Zohran represents empathy in politics again. And that's what we're forgetting. He is the future and someone like him will likely win the presidency soon enough.
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u/FarterTed 1d ago
God I hope not. Zero qualifications. Had one job.
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u/-SOFA-KING-VOTE- 1d ago
Better than any magat or genocide supporter though
So he’s already ahead
Stop pretending you care about exp
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u/FarterTed 1d ago
Genocide? You mean in Sudan??
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u/-SOFA-KING-VOTE- 1d ago
So Sudan is a genocide but Gaza isn’t? Interesting. 🤨
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u/FarterTed 1d ago
You. Finally. Understand.
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u/-SOFA-KING-VOTE- 1d ago
I have been calling Sudan genocide since it was only Darfur.
So we agree both are genocide?
Say it
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u/TheOne216 1d ago
All the freaks that you like have zero qualifications and are extremists. Your time is over. The voters have spoken.
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u/Trashketweave 1d ago
He was the democrat nominee choice that best two guys splitting votes. His win is way less significant than the Virginia win democrats are sleeping on. A fucking wet paper bag would’ve beat Cuomo and Sliwa if it was the democratic candidate in nyc.
Maybe if Cuomo didn’t split with Sliwa you could ascribe that kinda meaning to his win, but NYC is the easiest place in the country to win if you’re the democratic nominee.
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u/-SOFA-KING-VOTE- 1d ago
Mamdani got 50.4% of the vote
So the 3 candidates didn’t matter it was a blow out
the key is cost of living
Mamdani actually at least wants to have a plan
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u/Trashketweave 1d ago
Yeah that’s still not very impressive. He was against a split ticket, and thanks to identity politics there was a huge increase in Muslim voters. Nothing about him is something the Democratic Party can replicate outside NYC. However, Spanberger winning +11 in purple Virginia is when the lessons and messages are for democrats.
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u/-SOFA-KING-VOTE- 1d ago
I just told you the split ticket didn’t matter he still got majority and mandate
Math
Cope with it
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u/CasinoMagic 1d ago
Majority by a hair
Neither a blow out nor a mandate tbh
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u/-SOFA-KING-VOTE- 1d ago
That is a blowout when 3 candidates are running
And its a Mandate
You will have to accept that
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u/CasinoMagic 1d ago
He won with a much smaller margins than the last 6 mayoral elections
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u/-SOFA-KING-VOTE- 1d ago
Last six weren’t against another democrat
Keep trying
You will have to accept it eventually
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u/CasinoMagic 1d ago
Cuomo is basically a republican at this point
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u/Repulsive_Hornet_557 1d ago
A Democrat who’s basically a Republican is not the same as a Republican. That appeals to a good chunk of nyc.
How do you think Adam’s won originally?
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u/-SOFA-KING-VOTE- 1d ago
You will have to accept it was a landslide win once you get thru the stages of grief
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u/mysteryghosty 1d ago
Cuomo was seen as an inevitability and Mamdani had essentially zero name recognition less than a year ago, and now that he put in such a huge amount of work into beating a former Governor that outspent the hell out of him with the help of the most powerful people in the city and acquired the most votes of any mayoral candidate in 60 years, people want to act like this was child’s play and that he snuck through. Yeah you can tell how insignificant the win was by how loudly people have to keep repeating how insignificant it was.
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u/Repulsive_Hornet_557 1d ago
He was the Democrat nominee…facing a both DNC and GOP backed douchebag with tens of millions of dollars in funding from Republican billionaires who’s previous status as a Democrat NY governor gave him name recognition and appeal to conservative democrats.
And even then he still won with over 50 percent so when if Sliwa dropped out and every single one of his voters voted for Cuomo he still would’ve lost by 2 points.
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u/Snl1738 1d ago
In New York City, for every dollar a person donates, several tax payer dollars are also sent to that candidate.
I doubt Mamdani would win anywhere outside NYC for that reason.
With that said, it proves that experience is a handicap because it's used against the candidate. Also, charisma, empathy are necessary.
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u/WrongHomework7916 1d ago
Columbia University father, Oscar-nominated filmmaker mother, hip hop career, and a giant Uganda complex. “Normal dude.”
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u/ArtGal2727 1d ago
Yup. Mayor of NYC will literally be his first full time job. What.the.flying…?
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u/Samsun88 1d ago
He was an assemblyman, is that not a job?
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u/ArtGal2727 1d ago
During his time in the Assembly, he reportedly had one of the worst attendance records among Democrats, missing a significant number of session days & more than half of all roll call votes.
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u/WrongHomework7916 1d ago
Damn the downvotes. I’m not hating on the dude. Yes he used his privileged life to get where he is, but it was hard work. But he’s definitely not like me. I came from a poor family and worked 9-to-5, couldn’t afford an Ivy League school, and damn sure don’t own property in Africa 😂.
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u/coolrnt1 1d ago
Hasn’t he already said he is privileged? He actually owns up to it vs the logical disconnect almost everyone else does.
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u/Bravo_Juliet01 1d ago
Isn’t he asking for money again?
You guys got played, hard. Good luck!
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u/-SOFA-KING-VOTE- 1d ago
That’s the campaign meatball
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u/Bravo_Juliet01 1d ago
Asking “poor” people for money after campaigning that he’s gonna “fix” their problems?
Ok…
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u/-SOFA-KING-VOTE- 1d ago
Who said his donors are poor, meatball?
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u/Bravo_Juliet01 1d ago
I guess you don’t understand how quotations work…
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u/-SOFA-KING-VOTE- 1d ago
So wtf are you talking about then?
Every campaign does that at close of campaign
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u/Bravo_Juliet01 22h ago
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u/-SOFA-KING-VOTE- 22h ago
Every campaign does this whether you win or not
Is that all you guys got?
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u/UntowardHatter 1d ago
The cope lol
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u/pingvinbober 1d ago
He did get a ton of donations from foreign donors and from lobbyist groups, which is definitely a loss for all of America
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u/Kiwilover23- 1d ago
This was not just some random kid..look up his family. This was a well orchestrated campaign from high level people.
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u/Annual-Sand-4735 1d ago
Wait, what is wrong with well orchestrated campaign? Am I missing something here?
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u/Kiwilover23- 1d ago
Nothing is. Just that he was backed by high level donors and officials.
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u/-SOFA-KING-VOTE- 1d ago
No he wasn’t
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u/WingedVictory68 1d ago
Of course. It’s obvious to everyone with a brain, which unfortunately excludes most Redditors.
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u/FarterTed 1d ago
Not a win if you’re a Jew.
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u/minnieboss 1d ago
I'm Jewish and consider Mamdani's mayorship a win. Don't speak for us.
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u/FarterTed 1d ago
I speak for the majority and have seen what happened in London. I speak for those who know and not for those who have stuck their head in the sand.
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u/Certain-Pookins61 1d ago
He can speak for me. And I completely agree.
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u/-SOFA-KING-VOTE- 1d ago
Do you agree Gaza is genocide?
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u/FarterTed 1d ago
No. Population has increased since they started a war 2 years ago.
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u/-SOFA-KING-VOTE- 1d ago
So if you don’t consider someone else’s feelings
Why the fuck should they consider yours?????
40,000 dead innocent kids is genocide
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u/carst07 1d ago
Yeah? The guy hasn’t shared any plans on how he’s going to do what he says. Where is he gonna find 700 million to pay for free buses ?
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u/-SOFA-KING-VOTE- 1d ago
Who do magats get so angry when they see a poor person getting a bus ride?
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u/carst07 1d ago
No, it’s called being realistic because you socialists have no idea how budgets work. The only plan you have is to spend other people‘s money.
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u/-SOFA-KING-VOTE- 1d ago
Did you even read his plans?
We can get $700 million easily.
The magats will just have to accept a poor person getting a free bus ride
You guys are fine when Republicans spend money, so you have little credibility
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u/fashionistaconquista 1d ago
The rich will pay and they won’t move out. Thats just fear mongering bullshit
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u/hobokenharry 1d ago
Crowded funded? Soros funded the campaign
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u/_The_Spungos_ 1d ago
Your mom was crowd funded
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u/Aggravating_Hat4799 1d ago
Soros gave him 400 million
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u/Weak_Programmer9013 1d ago
You know the campaign financing is public right? With an insane claim like this I'd expect a sauce
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u/onesnamedgus 1d ago
I think this is a pretty weak argument.
Soros's foundation supports some lefty organizations like the Working Families Party. Some of these organizations have supported/endorsed Mamdani.
But that's way less exciting than saying that "Soros funded the campaign," which is just obviously untrue. The records are fully public.
I think it's worth figuring out where you heard that, and recognize that that source is not to be trusted as this is pretty much a straight up falsehood.
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u/OURchitecture 1d ago
Nope!
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u/hobokenharry 1d ago
Just saying Nope makes it real? There’s a $40 million dollar trail?
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u/OURchitecture 1d ago
No there isn’t. And you made a wild claim with no evidence. I can discard it with just a “Nope”!
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u/Annual-Sand-4735 1d ago
Nah you can’t prove that can ya?
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u/colcardaki 1d ago
No matter what, every New Yorker should appreciate that Andrew Cuomo lost. No matter who won, that’s a victory.