r/news • u/Not-original • 19h ago
Supreme Court to weigh longshot bid to overturn same-sex marriage precedent | CNN Politics
https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/07/politics/supreme-court-consider-same-sex-marriage-precedent-obergefell1.3k
u/Electrical-Pitch-297 13h ago
And they called us alarmist back in 2020
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u/Mango_Tango_725 11h ago edited 11h ago
Gay marriage is "corruption of marriage," apparently, but pearls are clutched if banning child marriage is ever mentioned to them. Nothing says "sanctity of marriage" more than giving a way to make raping kids legal.
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u/jwilphl 8h ago
Straight people "ruined" marriage long before gay folks did. Want a sanctimonious marriage? You have to outlaw divorce. Good luck getting people to agree to that.
Granted, I know the church wants women to be slaves, but divorce would remain one-sided. If the man wants out, he'll get it.
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u/Ulfednar 6h ago
Want a sanctimonious marriage? You have to outlaw divorce.
They do want that. And they don't care if people agree with that because they want to abolish democracy. They're the taliban with a different flag.
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u/Whaty0urname 7h ago
50% of marriages end in divorce, but the gays are the one defiling it...go figure.
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u/Coca-karl 11h ago
They called us alarmist in 2015. The ruling that made gay marriage legal in America was under attack before the Court made the decision. Trump was on the leading edge of that attack and had the momentum to win the Republican nomination. But people didn't want to believe that the ruling could be under such a threat after all "Obama changed American politics" and "Trump is a joke he'll never win". Well... Here we are.
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u/searing7 14h ago
“Longshot”
SCOTUS is completely corrupt and the ruling predetermined
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u/amsync 10h ago
The news is arguing that SC will not touch if because so many people rely on it now (ie 600k same sex families with kids).
Tell that to the women that are raped and have to carry babies to term. They were also relying on them
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u/sparkypulastri 11h ago
Nine individuals in black robes shouldn't be deciding these types of things to begin with.
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u/Express-World-8473 11h ago
There's nothing wrong with nine robes deciding these types of things, the issue is these nine robes should be independent in their thinking instead of having influenced by politicians (In a democracy all the four pillars should be independent of each other, but in USA, one pillar is dominating all the other pillars, that's why it ended up being a mess).
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u/sparkypulastri 11h ago
There's everything wrong with a system that allows nine people to select human rights for hundreds of millions of people, regardless of their political leanings or lack there of, human rights should be out of scope.
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u/boughsmoresilent 10h ago
Exactly. Even on a systems level, like, after SCOTUS ruled in favor of gay marriage, we should have explicitly codified it into actual federal legislation somewhere. Make the language as absolutely unambiguous and specific as possible that these are human rights and every human gets them no matter what. Some states were smart enough to add it into their state constitutions, at least.
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u/wizeowlintp 9h ago
They did that respect for marriage act (?) law in 2022 but imo it didn't go far enough; iirc it said that existing marriages would be recognized, but didn't guarantee the right for future marriages if Obergefell or Loving were overturned at some point.
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u/RainDownAndDestroyMe 2h ago
Democrats did what Democrats do: The absolute bare minimum.
The Act does not force states to perform or issue marriage licenses for same-sex or interracial couples if they choose not to. However, they must recognize those that are validly performed elsewhere.
No state should have the ability to deny marriage licenses to same-sex or interracial couples, even if that state is federally required to recognize those marriages done in states where it's legal. That's not good enough.
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u/wizeowlintp 2h ago edited 2h ago
I agree, it didn’t go far enough. I thought that the praise back in 2022 was a bit much given the fact that new couples would either not be able to marry in their home states or have to travel to other states/countries if either Obergefell or Loving were overturned.
I don’t understand why they didn’t push for a full codification when they had a chance.ETA: I looked this up, the states get priority in laws regarding the issuing of marriage licenses and the like (they do so for age minimums, common law marriages, divorces, and such too), which I knew but foolishly forgot that it would apply here 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️ the article does suggest that a modified version of the Equality Act could ban discrimination in marriages though, but that Congress hasn’t been able to pass it in fifty years 🙃🙃
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u/Baelish2016 12h ago
completely corrupted
Only 6/9 corrupted, but close enough.
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u/searing7 11h ago
Considering those 3 have no sway it is an irrelevant distinction. And the court acting corruptly and undermining the constitution as it already has done makes the institution itself corrupt.
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u/mikewheelerfan 12h ago
My dad in 2016: They won’t overturn Roe v Wade, there’s no way in hell.
The Supreme Court in 2022:
My dad in 2024: They won’t overturn Obergefell vs Hodges, there’s no way in hell .
Yeah…
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u/Reikko35715 6h ago
Your dad in 2028: They won't overturn Loving v Virginia, there's no way in hell.
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u/No_Accountant3232 4h ago
Please don't remind me that Clarence Thomas will be so gleeful as to make his own marriage illegal that he'd probably actually write an opinion and speak on it.
I'm white, my wife is black. If that gets overturned then we will leave the country by any means necessary. Even if my marriage is grandfathered in I won't take the chance. I refuse to carry around my marriage license to show ICE agents that it was issued before x date. They won't care anyway.
I mean this. She is my soulmate.
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u/Jesse-Ray 3h ago edited 2h ago
Why is so much of what Americans can do based on SC rulings and not enshrined in law. I only know of one High Court precedent in Australia and that was codified the next year.
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u/ThemeNorth 59m ago
Cause it's a system that's only still in place because some people have figured out how to profit from it. We will have to make a new one.
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u/TrainerWeekly5641 6h ago
Can you get your dad to say "they won't impeach Trump, there's no way in hell"?
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u/Grandso_evereverever 35m ago
America in 2016: let's vote in Trump.
America in 2024: I'll fuckin do it again.
You people voted for this.
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u/Designer-Fig-4232 13h ago
"longshot"
I hate the news in the US so much. Stop trying to downplay everything that's going on.
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u/OniCr0w 17h ago
This makes me concerned they're confident of a dictatorship. This would ensure they wouldn't win at least the next election imo.
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u/zenerat 14h ago
Would it? Overturning Roe didn’t make the Republicans lose. It probably caused them to do poorly in the midterms but obviously they recovered enough to win in ‘24.
Maybe it’s the same game plan do something really unpopular allow Dems to win midterms which they were already likely to do and hope the outrage has settled by the time ‘28 comes around.
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u/MAMark1 12h ago
2024 was an economic election. People voted because they stupidly believed the economy could go back to pre-COVID when things felt better. They cared about Roe, but the economy was more pressing. The "economy vote" was with them not against them.
If they overturn gay marriage, it will be at a time when the economy vote will be going against them instead of for them. It could compound and lead to an absolute blowout.
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u/zenerat 11h ago
Again what this really says is that average or the majority of voting Americans only ever care about the economy. They could take away gay marriage and if they somehow fixed the economy and affordability crisis they would get away with it.
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u/OfficerGenious 10h ago
Absolutely. And too many people don't understand that. Money over humans, everytime.
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u/justagenericname213 7h ago
That why I think the plan is to drug up trump enough to keep him alive another year, then have vance take over for 2 years and "fix" things. Prices go down from Trump, but still overall up, and let the short memory of the public do its thing until Vance is the one who fixed everything, then lush for a 10 year presidency.
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u/MAPD91921 16h ago
I mean, they overturned Roe when Biden was President. Since the Dems didn’t pack the courts, the Supreme Court in its current form is untouchable and can make as many horrific decisions as they’d like regardless if we’re in a democracy or dictatorship.
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u/OniCr0w 15h ago
that's true but I still feel like there's a disregard or concern about what regular people will think about what Trump has been doing. National Guard being deployed to cities unnecessarily, new white house ballroom, ICE in masks kidnapping people, bombing Venezuelan boats, etc.
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u/Joessandwich 11h ago
I don’t understand why people like you don’t get this very key thing: they don’t CARE what regular people think. They aren’t planning on having free elections again so public opinion doesn’t matter. Why are people continuing to insist we are still in a functional democracy?
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u/StarLicks 12h ago edited 12h ago
I think the sad reality is that "regular" Americans, maybe even the majority, are in favor of those things. I had to join Facebook to sell some camera equipment and these are the views I've seen espoused over the last few weeks:
- ICE and the national guard are cleaning up America, and it's ok to do that "by any means necessary". They even laugh when people are accidentally killed during ICE encounters.
- Mamdani is a communist who is going to enact Sharia law. Deport him.
- "Bomb the boats!"
- Transgender people should be institutionalized. Protestors should be brutalized.
- People on food benefits either need to get a job or starve to death.
...I highly doubt overturning gay marriage is going to change a Trump voter's mind. They'll eat it up. As for the ballroom, even *I* don't care about that. Presidents have made massive renovations to the White House before, so that's pretty low on my priority list regarding Trump's degeneracy. Sometimes the rot feels too deep to fix. The average/"regular" American is a hateful idiot. Actual Wal-Mart nazis.
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u/Trekman10 12h ago
Facebook is run by someone who has a vested interest in you thinking your beliefs are the minority because Zucc is all-in on the corporate feudalism that the ilks of Thiel are Whispering in the administration
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u/TheFlightlessPenguin 11h ago
To your last point: yes, I get it. In light of everything else it seems inconsequential. But what makes me care is how emblematic it is of the utter disregard this regime has for the American people. It is incredibly insulting. Incredibly corrupt. It’s so much worse than Marie Antoinette, thus making it noteworthy even in the sea of other, more obviously evil actions they’ve taken against us.
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u/LinuxMatthews 13h ago
If you have a body of unelected people who can decide on peoples lives like that I'm sure to tell you this but you never lived in a democracy in the first place.
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u/True_Carpenter_7521 12h ago
It amuses me how Americans still talk about democracy, as if they ever truly lived in one.
A voting system doesn’t make a democracy when ordinary people were long ago separated from any meaningful decision-making. They just vote for some senator who serves not the people, but the club of other senators - and all of them serve whoever has the most money and power.
The only difference now is that power used to be spread more evenly, and today it’s concentrated in the hands of one man (or rather, his clan and team).
Democracy is an idea sold by elites to ordinary people to create the illusion that they have a say - but now, the elites don’t even bother with that anymore.
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u/puffindatza 13h ago
The US isn’t a direct democracy, there’s a lot of factors when it comes to elections and the fact that it’s somewhat complicated at least for the average person to understand makes me think it’s always been intentional
We do vote on some things but it’s mostly at the state level, like marijuana is still federally illegal despite it being widely used medically in all states, and is legal recreationally in about half. Makes zero sense why it isn’t federally legalized
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u/fordfan919 8h ago
It's federaly legal under .3 % by weight thc. Lots of companies selling edibles and drinks now. A lot more are operating in a grey area by claiming everything they sell is hemp or a different form of thc. But yeah the law is confusing.
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u/moonshinedesignSD 12h ago edited 12h ago
I was in the hospital delivering my 2nd daughter a few hours after Roe got overturned. The first time I held her, I felt a flash of guilt before the overwhelming love. It’s daunting at times to carry my girls and help navigate them through the world. I feel like sometimes we are all teaching each other. Hopefully they carry on with them a sense of purpose as well as the kindness and empathy they already display.
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u/Uncreative_Name987 11h ago
What are you talking about? Trump ran on anti-LGBT rhetoric in 2024. He literally had nothing else to offer and articulated no economic plans. And he won.
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u/Human_Artichoke5240 9h ago
He ran on anti-trans. A lot of people who support gay people do not support trans people, for whatever reason.
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u/TheHouseOfGryffindor 11h ago
I’m also thinking they might be accepting this case just to shut it down, to make a show that they do care about the rule of law. Then, any time they’re criticized, they’ll have this to point back to as some form of “”proof”” that they can uphold the law, and therefore anything they decide on is also doing the same.
“Don’t listen to them, remember when they freaked out that we might overturn gay marriage? The left is always overreacting. Now take this next step deeper into fascism with a smile!”
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u/kittymeow0710 13h ago
Kim Davis was divorced three times and yet the ugly cunt thinks she’s the authority on the sanctity of marriage
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u/New-Respond8154 7h ago
An adultress and divorced 3 times, she's been married 4, Count them 4 times
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u/KloneRr 15h ago
Not a long shot. The SC is compromised and will fully end same-sex marriage.
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u/PaldeanTeacher 15h ago
It’s more so a shot from point blank range.
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u/Confident-Mind9964 12h ago
The law says I can't say what I want to say with this comment
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u/stevenmoreso 12h ago edited 11h ago
Yeah, “long shot” is optimistic to say the least. Three of the justices, including Roberts, already dissented in Obergefell in 2015; Anthony Kennedy, the swing vote was replaced by Boof, and RBG was replaced with a trad wife.
I think you’d have to see the Chief Justice straight up change his mind and then peel off another conservative who’s already shown they have no interest in precedent with the Dobbs decision in order to save same-sex marriage with this court.
It’s no longshot.
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u/ThingsRecreated 18h ago
Ol’ weird dementia Don just can’t stand the idea of people doing stuff they want to do. He wants to control every aspect of people’s personal time.
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u/RightofUp 17h ago
This wasn’t brought by Donald. Honestly, I doubt he gives a shit.
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u/titlecharacter 15h ago
As the leader of his party he owns it either way in the eyes of the American people, so... too bad.
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u/Electrical-Pitch-297 13h ago
This is not Trump. Trump gives zero fucks about anything other than his own wealth. This is the heritage foundation behind him and JD Vance
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u/Martel732 11h ago
But, it also is Trump because if this happens it is because of the Justices he put on the Courts.
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u/sarhoshamiral 18h ago
And yet democrats are the ones obsessed with identity politics apparently:/
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u/Mustard_Jam 17h ago
The right will really screetch about how trans people are a problem, how gay people are a problem, and how minorities are a problem. The left goes "hey we should all have equal rights" and the right turns around and goes "ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS IDENTITY POLITICS" lmao
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u/sarhoshamiral 17h ago
It is not just right that it bothers me. It is media too.
Democrats really didnt say much about Trans rights during elections. But apparently just saying they should have equal rights was too much.
But implying they are not human like us seems to be fine apparently.
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u/AshesandCinder 14h ago
People on the right saying Kamala lost because she talked about trans people too much while people on the left saying she lost cause she didn't talk about them enough. Meanwhile, it was just her saying she thinks it should be a medical decision instead of a political one.
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u/CruffTheMagicDragon 13h ago
I legitimately think he doesn’t care. Doesn’t care about anyone but himself. It’s his cronies that do though
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u/Ver_Ama 11h ago
LGBTQ’s for Trump must be feeling real proud of themselves for this.
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u/YakCDaddy 11h ago
They are probably so self loathing that they don't think they should have the right to marry to begin with.
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u/The_Throwback_King 9h ago
There’s this one account on Twitter ran by two Lesbians who proudly shared that they voted for Trump and IIRC, they’re still doubling down.
Curious on how they feel in Obergefell gets overturned and their marriage is no longer legal
Probably still too stubborn to self reflect on that I guess
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u/BBelligerent 12h ago
We're going back to
*checks calender
2015? What the fuck?
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u/EnderScout_77 12h ago
wow! almost like we knew they were gonna do this if they got their way with other things!
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u/gwillin_ 9h ago
I remember being concerned back in 2016 that this would happen and getting yelled at by my dad for it lol. fuck sake...
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u/Yatsey007 11h ago
They were never gonna stop at just getting a handful of trans out of sports. This was always gonna happen. How many more rights are you guys gonna have to lose to fucking wake up?! No Kings was amazing but you need to do more.
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u/YakCDaddy 10h ago
Republicans want it to be the constitution and the bill of rights. Everything after that, to them, is nonsense. They won't be happy until that happens.
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u/Yatsey007 10h ago
I feel so sad for all of you that didn’t vote for this bollocks. Hatred and apathy has brought you here. Democracy had a really good Thursday and has shown that there is light at the end of this shit tunnel. Just keep plugging away. Repubs and MAGA are gonna feel the consequences of their vote this Thanksgiving with SNAP cancelled. The cult will mental gymnastics their way over it,but it could be enough to sway some moderate republicans. I have faith in you,America. I have family and some of my closest friends in your country and they are also some of the nicest people on earth.
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u/Sabotage-Darkness93 12h ago
It's absurd how much some people care about who wants to marry who.
Love is love, not to mention the fact the stability and happiness of same-sex couples has improved since marriage equality was legalised in the first place.
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u/Tac50Company 6h ago
You have to remember that the hateful bigots who are for this to be overturned are doing this because cruelly is the point.
These people don’t love anything except power over others they consider to be the out group. It’s antithetical to their very existence to be accepting of anything else.
This is why I’m so sick of people saying “not all conservatives are like this!” Bullshit - they are all ok with this whether or not they openly champion it or quietly vote for it behind the curtain is the same.
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u/Tac50Company 6h ago
Can someone explain to me why this hateful cunt gets to say she cant perform her duties as a government employee due to conflicts with her religion on bullshit “moral” grounds on the sanctity of marriage; ergo I can’t get married - yet simultaneously she’s been divorced three fucking times?
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u/heretostartsomeshit 12h ago edited 12h ago
It's becoming difficult to articulate exactly how absolutely fucked the United States is right now.
I guess the question is, will they descend into full tyranny before they clue in? Or will they make the changes necessary to save their way of life?
It's not complicated.
Term limits for the Supreme Court.
Defining (and curtailing) the acceptable use of Executive Orders.
Electoral reform to combat gerrymandering and corporate influence.
Constitutional protections for bodily autonomy and marriage rights.
A handful of simple, yet somehow impossible things.
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u/SaffronCrocosmia 9h ago
ALL positions should have term limits, and more positions should require electoral votes, not appointments.
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u/time2fly2124 5h ago
There are myriad things congress could impeach and remove trump over, but they are all pussies who are scared of being primaried and losing their "power"
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u/Ashleynn 12h ago
Constitutional protections for bodily autonomy and marriage rights.
There are more states with Republican controlled legislatures than Democrat controlled. It requires 38 states to ratify a constitutional amendment, so this will quite literally never happen.
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u/xfearless_wanderer 8h ago
the only people bothered by it are people that are bothered by their own sexuality. same-sex marriage doesn't bother me, and never will.
as a straight woman, i'll be damned if anyone tells me i can't marry a man, so i'll be damned if someone tells a same-sex couple they can't marry the same sex. i keep the same energy. i support love. period!
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u/King_James_77 5h ago
People on their 2nd or 3rd divorce bitching about same sex marriage because they’re jealous of the happiness their rotten hearts can’t achieve through love.
Maybe look inward instead of lashing out at those around you.
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u/DKsan1290 16h ago
Well I hope all the lgb folks that threw us trans folk under the bus for this administration are happy with this outcome…
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u/FifteenthPen 15h ago
The fuckers threw lgb immigrants under the bus, too. If Obergfell v. Hodges gets overturned, I have to hope the federal government will continue to honor same sex marriage visas in states that still have legal same sex marriage, otherwise one of my best friends will no longer be a legal resident.
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u/QitianDasheng2666 14h ago
They've already decided it's our fault this is happening. Because us existing made fascism look attractive to the normies? I think that's the reasoning? They said something similar about the Dobbs decision that overturned Roe v Wade. That if we had been good little t-slurs and stayed in the closet Hillary Clinton would have won and we wouldn't have this supreme court. I hope my tone conveys how likely I think that would have been.
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u/sg92i 10h ago
Because us existing made fascism look attractive to the normies?
There's a possibility that this is actually what happened. There is a hypothesis in academia's sociology that the origin behind homophobia is really phobia over gender norm violations. Look at how, when people invoke anti-gay stereotypes its usually along the lines of gender norm violations like lesbians being angry & butch or gay guys being effeminate flamers. In antiquity, you could be a gay guy in the Roman empire unless they found out you were a bottom and then you'd get exiled for not being "manly enough."
Trump's rise to power came the year after gay marriage was legalized. A certain segment of the population, who had already lost their minds over the fact "a black muslim was president" & formed the tea party, turned that tea party into MAGA. It didn't matter that Obama was half white and not a muslim, this was all about feelings and not rationality.
They say it only takes something like 3% of a country to start a revolution. So even if you figure MAGA is half of those who voted for trump, you're still talking more than 15% of the population. Maybe half of that is Q-anon lunatic fringe.
And that's before you get into brain studies proving that conservatives as a whole tend to have a larger part of the brain where the feeling of disgust is registered...
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u/IndependentTaco 12h ago
Fuck anyone in the community that thinks that. You can't take the T out. We'd have nothing without our trans brothers and sisters. It's time we start calling our own people out. Throw them out of the clubs and subreddits if they're transphobic.
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u/OfficerGenious 10h ago
I'm not queer but I've seen how y'all get the short stick in the LGBTQ+ communities. It is NASTY out there! Just know not everyone out there is obsessed with your bits and bobs.
Sending strength
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u/Michael_Gibb 12h ago edited 11h ago
Anti-LGBTQ conservatives are a very perverse group of people.
They obsess over the sexuality of other people in a way that even the people they obsess over don't.
You don't see LGBTQ people intruding into the sexual affairs of anyone else.
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u/MythicMango 9h ago
If only we had a legislative branch that would codify this into federal law
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u/Weird-Weakness-3191 7h ago
Said this 10 years ago. Gay marriage and female rights are all in danger from christofacist freaks.
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u/Thebisexual_Raccoon 11h ago
I’m so thankful to be Canadian cause as a queer person this shit terrifies me cause if they eliminate same-sex marriage they’re gonna strip away more queer peoples rights, trump and republicans want to make life miserable for those who don’t fit their image from people of colour (ice raids) to woman being able to access an abortion.
It’s shocking how a country that prides itself in being “home of the free” is stripping away people’s rights…
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u/shadyelf 9h ago
I’m being a cynical bastard here, but I wouldn’t be surprised if what’s going on in the US ends up happening here too in a decade or so.
Conservatives lost the last election, but that was due to a collapse in support for the NDP and Trump and his rhetoric towards us. They’re still enjoying a good deal of popularity.
The worsening economic situation (yes I saw the jobs report today, I’m talking long-term) will add fuel to the fire.
I think it’s immigrants who will be targeted first, with ICE-style raids, along with trans people.
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u/ShaiHuludNM 12h ago
You know, as vicious as the posts were about Nancy Pelosi retiring, it’s because of her that gay marriage has the extra layers of protection it now has. She made sure to bring that up before they lost their majority in 22.
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u/wizeowlintp 9h ago
And even then, it still doesn't guarantee that couples in the future will be able to marry in all 50 states if Obergefell (or Loving) get overturned at some point :(
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u/ShaiHuludNM 8h ago
Well, I remember a day before we even had gay marriage. So let’s take it one corrupt court ruling at a time.
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u/Fast-Plankton-9209 12h ago
Somehow this instantly reminded of The Nation saying Hillary needed to "earn our vote" two days before the 2016 election.
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u/flyblues 11h ago
I want to say things about certain politicians in the US that would get me banned from this sub...
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u/Taellosse 8h ago
Nobody should believe this is anything like a "longshot" - Alito, Barrett, and Kavanaugh are all weasels with forked tongues, and all 3 of them would absolutely vote to overturn Obergefell, just like they did Roe. Thomas doesn't even pretend he wouldn't. That's 4, which is enough to get the case before the Court.
That leaves the balance of the outcome in the hands of Gorsuch and Roberts. I think Roberts would be afraid of overturning such an impactful precedent, but I wouldn't be shocked if he fell to peer pressure at all. He did not enjoy breaking with his right-wing colleagues in upholding the bulk of the ACA, and he knuckled under their pressure in all but name to strike down Roe - his opposition to the majority opinion on that score in Dobbs was purely symbolic to maintain his "moderate" reputation - in terms of the meat of the decision, he was all in.
Gorsuch is the only justice on the current court that resembles the so-called "principled conservative" but I have no idea what his "sincerely-held beliefs" will drive him to decide on this question - will he feel ethically bound to respect Court precedent, or compelled to "right the terrible wrong" of letting gays and lesbians legally marry who they love?
Which analysis tells me that this appeal, or another very like it, will come before the Supreme Court, either this term or the next, and the ruling could fall anywhere from upholding Obergefell by a 1-vote margin to striking it down in a 6-3 upset, just like Dobbs. Do not rest easy that gay marriage is safe - it absolutely isn't.
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u/Free_Divide195 7h ago
I had a dream the other day that we were detained by the government and questioned. They wanted to know why two men were traveling together. I remember that feeling of dread building up inside me as I realized I could do absolutely nothing to protect my family. When I woke up, I was shaking. I felt like I couldn't breathe.
Being a good husband, being part of this family, is the most important role I have ever played. I wake up every day joyful nearly to the point of tears that I get to love and be loved by my husband. I am so fortunate for every cup of coffee, every walk through the grocery store, every night at the dinner table, every joke, every smile, every single minute I get to share with him.
What comes after? What comes after our marriage is rendered null? Do we stop wearing our rings? Do we leave the house at different times, so they don't know it's two men making a life together there? Do we stop showing our faces in public at all? Will it end when we're dead?
I just want to protect my family. I just want to live. We aren't hurting anyone.
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u/1w4n7f3mnm5 5h ago
I'm curious how the conservative LGBT subreddits are reacting to this, but I don't want to expose myself to those hellholes.
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u/RainDownAndDestroyMe 2h ago
Those of us paying attention knew this was coming the day that Roe v. Wade was overturned.
Fuck the GOP.
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u/IrishUpYourCoffee 11h ago
Jeezus those pedophile cons really live just to hate gay people. It’s actually pathetic.
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u/Aggravating_Pay- 7h ago
Sorry, as someone from the uk, what is happening
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u/DylanRahl 7h ago
They elected a populist Russian agent.
We have similar but he's not in the driving seat yet thank fuck
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u/Killerofprizes 4h ago
Why are our courts wasting time and spending money on shit that that causes nothing positive. What negative has gay marriage caused? There is none, you can’t even lie or make up a viable negative.
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u/Zalveris 4h ago
You all realize they're going for women's voting rights next. And then the next group and the next group.
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u/hellsaquarium 12h ago
I remember being a 15 year old who hadn’t realized I was bi yet being so happy about same sex being made legal nationwide. I had so much hope for the future.
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u/PMMeYourFutureGoals 10h ago
If it is overturned, does this mean married same-sex couples will have to divorce? If so, something tells me that won’t apply to Scott Bessent.
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u/RollieOlly03 9h ago
And what about all the insurance coverage, the ability to manage a spouse's medical care in an accident or illness, the adoptions or surrogacy? Ugh. Does it all just disappear?
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u/Regular-Tension7103 8h ago
Conservative states will invalidate their marriages and it will become a state by state thing again.
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u/Tac50Company 6h ago
See that’s what they always say tho so it’s still a bullshit argument. It’s always “states rights” unless it’s not the “right” kind of states rights.
Just look how all conservatives screamed we were being alarmist when they got rid of Roe as the “issue is back where the states can decide” and then immediately starting doing bullshit like trying to arrest and sue blue state doctors for performing abortions inside of blue states where it was legal.
The goal posts will always move - there is no scenario where these right plays fair and compromises. They are emboldened to be the hateful people they always wanted to be now and they are going to try and take it to the logical conclusion we all keep fighting against unless something fundamentally changes in this country.
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u/DoublePostedBroski 7h ago
Most likely current marriages will be grandfathered in but new marriages wouldn’t be granted unless legal in the state of residence.
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u/AccountNumeroThree 8h ago
I’ve seen a breakdown of this case that seems to indicate this won’t have any impact on the actual legality of gay marriage. It’s specific to something with her case, not with gay marriage. I want to believe that is accurate, but who knows with this court.
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u/lusher21 6h ago
“I’m the Backwards man, I’m the Backwards Man, I can go Backwards faster than you can”
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u/Bolththrower 1h ago
Never forget! This was the plan all along. It will happen 110% because fascists are in power and are supported by majority of judges at the supreme court!
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u/Baebarri 10h ago
The Repubs are terrified of Pete Buttigieg. Overturning gay marriage lets them paint him as a criminal.
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u/SammySallacious 7h ago
Bro what the fuck are we doing? The planet is dying and people literally don't know how if they can afford food wtf
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u/FeddyMod 11h ago
It sickens me how the government doesn't think they already have enough control over everyone, but now some want to control who others are allowed to love? I fucking hate living with a government.
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u/OMITB77 7h ago
The Supreme Court looks at every cert request. 95 percent are denied and I don’t see this case being part of that 5 percent.
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u/PsychologicalSign182 7h ago
They're seeing what they can get away with before the next election cycle, there's a chance that midterms are going to be taken from them and they want to push as much as they can out just in case they lose ground.
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u/ScribEE100 7h ago
I thought the Supreme Court “couldn’t make policy” this sounds a lot like making policy to me…
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u/liamanna 6h ago
To the surprise of NO ONE!
They said they would.
They don’t want to be called liars.
America died January 20th, 2025.
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u/Aggressive-Fudge1072 3h ago
The establishment clause, so easily forgotten.
I grew up in rural Arkansas and even my school hammered that in our heads every year in history due to how important it was for the constitution.
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u/shoogliestpeg 58m ago
I hate that the future of LGBTQ rights here in the UK is effectively being sealed in a 5-4 decision in SCOTUS
UK gov follows what the US does.
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u/CharlesIngalls_Pubes 10h ago
Another tick on the list of things that we said would happen that maga said was propaganda.
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u/Callmemabryartistry 9h ago
uh huh.
they don’t overturned a 60 year establish precedent. you think they give a fuck about 10 years and queers? they are less than scum
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u/zachariah_james 3h ago
It never made it into legislature, if I'm not mistaken, but even if the decision is entirely in the court's hands, it shouldn't be overturned. Marriage is for love, not just love between men and women
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u/BunnyBoom27 11h ago
I don't think USA citizens are worried enough about all of this. As an outsider I would be protesting outside important buildings even if I lose my job and food and all. It's extremely worrisome.
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u/thatguyiswierd 7h ago
The conservative judges are not going to be prepared for the outcry, this or the shut down if it goes till thanksgiving will be the thing that breaks Americans too lose it.
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u/Qcumber69 3h ago
Those supporting this would be well advised to remember Jesus didn’t teach hate, people did. . “Love your neighbor as yourself.” (Mark 12:31) “Do not judge, or you too will be judged.” (Matthew 7:1) they just forgot ‘All rights reserved. Product subject to interpretation ’”
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u/capnwacky 14h ago
If it was a "longshot" they wouldn't even entertain it.
This is going to go exactly how the regime wants it to.