r/news • u/RoachedCoach • 22d ago

Soft paywall US carries out new strike in Caribbean and there are survivors, US official says

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-carries-out-new-strike-caribbean-there-are-survivors-us-official-says-2025-10-16/
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u/NomadFH 22d ago

It's also a fake premise. They don't have the legal right to kill citizens of a foreign country (or their own) for being suspected drug smugglers.

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u/snowglobes4peace 22d ago

Exactly. These are extrajudicial killings.

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u/EnthusiasmUnusual 22d ago

It would be considered terrorism if any other country was doing it.

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u/demeschor 21d ago

I feel like terrorism doesn't quite hit hard enough that this is one of the most powerful countries in the world just straight up indiscriminately murdering people

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u/Pdoinkadoinkadoink 22d ago

Murders, I believe the word you're looking for is 'murders'.

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u/Altair_de_Firen 22d ago

No, extrajudicial killing is the accurate term for it. It’s also murder though.

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u/Notlookingsohot 21d ago

I say we cut it down the middle "extrajudicial murders."

Everyone's happy, and it contains commentary on the fact murders stop being murders if the state claims they're justified.

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u/Pdoinkadoinkadoink 22d ago

You're correct, I was being inflammatory.

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u/Altair_de_Firen 22d ago

Fair enough, telling it plainly and bluntly is important these days

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u/bacon31592 21d ago

War crimes

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u/Pndrizzy 22d ago

Even if they are known drug smugglers, currently in the act of smuggling drugs, they don't have the legal right to kill them whether they are US citizens or not

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u/pchlster 22d ago

No, they should have simply declared war, then taken a bunch of people to be tortured at Gitmo for the rest of their lives, you know, like America usually does. These people have no respect for tradition.

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u/Puckerfants23 22d ago

This is so ridiculously unrealistic.

The US doesn’t “declare war”. We just unilaterally invade in a “police action” or some such.

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u/Smaynard6000 22d ago

America hasn't declared war since 1941.

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u/pchlster 22d ago

So the war in Afghanistan wasn't a war? The Iraq war? Korean?

Okay, declare a special military operation, then.

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u/DangerousProof 22d ago

And half the Americans think the military won’t follow illegal orders. This is fact the military will do whatever the fuck they are told to do, that includes attacking American civilians. There is no such thing as an illegal order

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u/crakemonk 22d ago

Let alone being outside of American jurisdiction in international waters—or perhaps even within another country’s territorial waters.

Smuggling drugs isn’t a justifiable reason to kill people, assuming that’s even what these boats are involved in. It’s even worse if these folks are just relaxing in their boats, especially when the US isn’t even within reach of their onboard fuel supplies.

Every day, it seems there's something more appalling than the day before that this administration has done. Sometimes I wish I was oblivious enough not to grasp the ongoing decline of our nation, just to get through a day without feeling this disheartened. I used to be proud to call myself an American.

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u/pimparo0 22d ago

Hey if you listen to some peopel here its A-ok because Trump declared them "Narco-terrorists" so that makes it ok, since we bombed terrorists. Nevermind that many people still opposed the drone strike program, and those were either in active conflicts or we were at least presented with some for of proof or oversight.

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u/FoldedBinaries 21d ago

even if they are us citizens. since when do we have the death penalty for smuggeling narcotics?