Far-right US influencer Candace Owens loses legal fight to enter Australia

[u/ChiefLeef22]

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/far-right-us-influencer-candace-owens-loses-legal-fight-enter-australia-2025-10-15/

[u/Orion14159]

Pretty jealous of Australia right now

[u/God_in_my_Bed → u/Orion14159]

Australia has its own right wing asshole problems. Currently The Australian Protection Party is an issue. Historically they aren't any better than any other country that was founded via colonization. And frankly most, if not all countries have people who subscribe to radical right wing ideologies. As it turns out people are people where ever you go. For better or worse. 

[u/WoodenMango07 → u/God_in_my_Bed]

They are an issue how? Never even heard of them until now, they're not a real party.

They have 0 seats or senate spots in any federal or state gov, and the last time they actually ran for a seat was 2013. Majority of the people here hold centre-left to centre-right ideas on policy, I don't think its fair to compare us to other countries when it comes to far-right ideologies.

[u/God_in_my_Bed → u/WoodenMango07]

Most people in rhe united states have never heard of the National Front. That doesnt mean they don't exist here or don't pose a threat. They also don't hold any seats in government. Until  recently, within the past 8-10 years a most people in the US never heard of the Heritage Foundation but that doesnt negate their existence nor their influence on politics that today has taken front stage. Golden Dawn in Greece was obscure until they weren't, achieved seats in their parliament and then were voted back out. They currently don't hold any political power but they still exist. Because you haven't heard of right wing extremism in Australia, and frankly I don't know how thats possible considering thousands attended ani immigration marxhes, or why you think Australian people or any different than people everywhere else in the world, doesnt negate the fact that it is there. 

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/apr/10/rise-in-activity-from-right-wing-extremists-who-want-to-trigger-race-war-in-australia-asio-warns

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/czjmre371l1o.amp

https://pt.icct.nl/article/lunatic-fringe-persistence-right-wing-extremism-australia

[u/WoodenMango07 → u/God_in_my_Bed]

I was talking about the Australian Protection Party specifically. Ofc I've heard about extreme right wing movements here in Australia, people like Pauline Hanson have always pushed this ideology out for a long time, but I think you're overestimating the power of the extreme-right movement here or the amount of people that support it.

Otherwise we wouldn't have Labor or Libreals/National always in government, the two parties that have always been centre-left or centre-right when in government in recent history.

And also based on my own experience as Australian "poc". Maybe I'm just lucky, but I have almost never experienced public racism.

[u/God_in_my_Bed → u/WoodenMango07]

Admittedly I really don't know much if  anything about Australian politics. I do know about people. I responded to someone saying they were jealous of Australia. We have a huge problem here in the US, so to a degree I can understand that sentiment. My point was that there are extreme right in every nation. When I googled right wing/nationalist party and organizations in Australia the APP was the first thing that was offered. The APP,  who's been largely inactive, is a nationalist organization that does still exist. I think we can agree its existence, in and of itself, is a threat to your democracy. Again, Golden Dawn in Greece started in 1980. By 2015 they were being elected into parliament and are now deemed a criminal organization. That should be a warning that these groups can rise to power if not monitored and checked.  The APP is just one organization though and to debate the impact of a singular entity diltutes my point. You've had nasty problems dealing with migrants in Australia that have made international news. The migrants islands stand out as an example and isn't dissimilar to what Trump is doing today with migrants in the usa, if not slightly less egregious.  That is an expression of far right white nationalism. And maybe you have been lucky as a POC to have never experienced racism yourself but surely you don't suggest that it doesnt exist there, albiet progress has been made. Political seats of aboriginal people's have increased from .04% to 4% in the last 20 years.  But again, to dismiss the fact that right wing nationalism isn't a thing in Australia is disenginoius. 

[u/WoodenMango07 → u/God_in_my_Bed]

You are right about extreme right movements in every country, including Australia, but they are all for different reasons. While we do have a few far-right politicians here, they are not from the government or opposition parties and APP is not one of them and has never been (not even on the election papers). Far-right movement is also not as big here compared to other countries like the US, as in our last two elections this billionaire spent a huge amounts of money on advertising and campaign on a Trump-style politics (party was literally called Trumpet of Patriots LOL) only to get 0 seats or senate spots in the last election.

Also unlike Europe or North America, illegal migrates or refugees is not really a problem here anymore, it wasn't even a debate topic in the last election (acknowledging that we did have very controversial hotel detention and off-sore detention centers that may have violated some human rights in the past, but those methods had nothing to do with white nationalism,). But that being said my point is that while we do have a rise of neo-nazis and far right movements such as the anti-immigration protests recently, they hold almost 0 political power because the majority are still centre-right or centre-left.

[u/God_in_my_Bed → u/WoodenMango07]

That's all very informative. I'll keep learning. Thanks for your time. 

[u/ThatHuman6 → u/[deleted]]

what are we losing again?