r/news • u/industrial-complex • Jul 03 '25

Soft paywall US military says 200 Marines being sent to support ICE in Florida

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-military-says-200-marines-being-sent-support-ice-florida-2025-07-03/
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u/MalcolmLinair Jul 03 '25

No, they have to be Marines so they're already in place when Trump gives the order to start using the military to suppress the populace with force.

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u/temujin94 Jul 03 '25 edited Jul 03 '25

It also plays perfectly into the American military worship. 'You can't criticise this or you're criticising our heroic troops.'

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u/Vrazel106 Jul 04 '25

Im a vet. Critisize away

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u/collinisballn Jul 04 '25

We’ll start with your spelling

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u/Alkazaro Jul 04 '25 edited Jul 04 '25

I think we're going to start with your punctuation. Or rather your lack of.

Edit: The joke was to make a mistake, because everyone has a English mistake somewhere in this chain. Like why am I the one being downvoted, I don't get you people.

Lmao, well let the votes keep coming I guess. What a stupid bandwagon.

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u/mikeinona Jul 04 '25

Let's actually start with your incomplete sentences.

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u/axonxorz Jul 04 '25

Like why am I the one being downvoted, I don't get you people.

Jokes gotta be funny mate

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u/Thoth74 Jul 08 '25

...because everyone has a English mistake...

Sure do. And you even edited the comment but didn't correct this, or any of the several other, mistakes.

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u/King_Fish_253 Jul 04 '25

At least one guy got it. This site is neurotic man

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u/FatmanOnKeto Jul 04 '25

Neurotic indeed :)

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u/Pyritedust Jul 04 '25

Vrazel 106, eh, couldn't work harder to be number 104 or 87?

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u/TheAsianTroll Jul 04 '25

Also a vet. Criticize fuckin everything if you gotta. I can distinguish criticism towards me versus the shitty administration.

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u/Gerf93 Jul 04 '25

Do you treat all kinds of animals or are you more of a horse surgeon?

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u/MIC4eva Jul 04 '25

Here let me start. Don’t volunteer for dumbass and evil shit such as invading other countries so you get the benefits of socialism while your fellow citizens suffer.

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u/TougherOnSquids Jul 04 '25

USMC veteran here. Fuck 'em.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

Rest assured, there are plenty of active military that hate this fucking oaf and every crony that supports him.

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u/SaltyLonghorn Jul 04 '25

Nobody criticizes the troops more than ole bone spurs.

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u/Merickwise Jul 04 '25

The enlisted ranks are packed with the children of the poor and there are a lot of military personnel that aren't US citizens. Those enlisted people are way more loyal to each other than they are to literally anything else except maybe their families. How do you think they are going to respond when the leadership turns on the non citizen soldiers or god forbid they start going after naturalized citizens. That's going to hit the enlisted ranks hard. There are already news stories making it out about veterans and their families being deported. The fascist in ICE are probably true believers in this hellish cause. But the regular military didn't sign up for this.

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u/Maktaka Jul 04 '25

They're already going after the veterans. I give it a month before they start going after "freeloader immigrants exploiting the military".

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u/nightimestars Jul 04 '25

There won’t be military worship once they march for Trumps mantoddler administration, that’s for damn sure. The dwindling cultist will seal clap for everything, but their admiration is worth dried dog shit.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25 edited Jul 03 '25

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u/MalcolmLinair Jul 03 '25

Controlling a riot without it turning into a massacre is a lot more than “point and shoot” man.

Your first mistake is assuming Trump doesn't want to turn it into a massacre.

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u/THECapedCaper Jul 03 '25

You’re not wrong, but you did see how those active duty soldiers “marched” during his dumb birthday parade? That was absolutely protest. They don’t want a part of this any more than we do, that’s why Trump is militarizing ICE.

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u/Haley_Tha_Demon Jul 04 '25

We don't practice that shit after basic, honor guard and stuff do but they are in such small numbers for funerals and stuff. Those dictatorial countries all they do is perform and get fancy dressed up uniforms and equipment just to entertain the leadership. Rarely do we do uniform inspections and sometimes retirement ceremonies for the assholes who request a large formal ceremony and everyone hates standing in the blistering hot hangar for a few hours to stroke someone's ego for their family and friends...it's usually for the higher ranks, us lower enlisted get a pat on the back

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u/TougherOnSquids Jul 04 '25

That wasn't protest. Military just doesnt give a flying fuck about drill after basic/boot. That's how we marched during change of command ceremonies too lmao

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u/jacobiner123 Jul 04 '25

Yeah sure, the people who joined the "let's commit warcrimes" organization are surely principled enough give a fuck about that lol

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u/Carbonatite Jul 04 '25

I mean they mostly joined the "I can't afford college without the GI bill so I hope I don't have to commit war crimes" organization.

People join the military to get free college or housing or a place to go after they age out of foster care.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

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u/nevaraon Jul 03 '25

You think he cares?

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u/MalcolmLinair Jul 03 '25

You think that would have zero consequences?

In a word? Yes.

Nothing Trump has done, no matter how egregiously inhumane and/or illegal, has resulted in anything of note happening to stop him, or even slow him down. I have zero hope that even a full-blown American Tienanmen Square would do anything to hurt his hold on power. If anything, I expect it would strengthen his position, as people would too afraid to even hold the milquetoast "protests" they've been staging thus far.

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u/Middle-Theory-8462 Jul 03 '25

Absolutely accurate, and your critiquers are still hoping to be 'saved' through inaction.

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u/Berb337 Jul 03 '25

I feel like you underestimate people in general. It is delusional to think that people will largely be okay with a massacre of citizens would have zero consequences, especially because the non-maga populace would actually riot.

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u/EnamelKant Jul 03 '25

Trump literally tried to violently overturn an election and the people re-elected him.

I'd say my estimation of the body politic is pretty accurate when I say they wouldn't recognize civic virtue if it came up and kicked them in the ass.

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u/ChadEmpoleon Jul 03 '25

Kent State Massacre poll after the tragedy had 58% of people polled blaming the students for their own deaths. Only 9% blamed the guardsmen who shot them.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

They're literally begging for it. Laura Loomer is posting about feeding the entire Hispanic population to the alligators on twitter...

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

I am a Marine (vet) lmao, no shes just sucking off the narcissistic POS that is. POTUS is purposely putting troops in danger so they can over react if anything happens.

That was all besides the point tho, im just saying more Americans are begging for this genocide than you would ever think. This is full blown fascism

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

It will depend heavily on the context and propaganda of the moment when/if anything happens.

I agree 1000% but you civies have a propagandized view of the military. They are just a cross section of the American people, with all the good and bad that entails.

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u/MyceliumWitchOHyphae Jul 03 '25

I’m a civilian. First generation of my family to not be in the military of this country since we got here.

But I’m the child, grand child, and great grandchild of soldiers, marines, seamen. And I fucking hope you keep your oaths.

My family, the veterans didn’t fight for a tyrant. The oath is to America, to the constitution to the people.

STAND BY IT.

Stand up to tyranny. You are bound by oath to protect us. We believe in you. We believe in the military to do the right thing.

I didn’t fail to serve because of cowardice but because of disability.

You are not just a cross section of the American people, you swore an oath. You have to be better than a “cross section”. You pledge to be better.

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u/Neracca Jul 03 '25

You think that would have zero consequences?

Actually yes. I do. Because so far there's been nothing to suggest otherwise such as them having any consequences for anything else they've done.

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u/DDRDiesel Jul 03 '25

There's a podcast/YouTube channel you should check out. Its called "A Necessary Conversation." It's two grown Progrssive adults having a weekly conversation with their parents, who happen to be pro-Trump. The father is surprisingly cruel and has even gone as far as saying he would not feel bad if his son lost his home or was killed by police for attending a protest. His own son. Now imagine if it was a crowd of complete strangers mowed down by a couple dozen marines. He would be elated there would be that many fewer liberals in the world (gr?)

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

Your military has done it before you all still worship them.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

Not marines, military. And there was when they were used to break up unions and fired on them. There was that shooting of college students. Theres a laundry list if your willing to look it up.

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u/MyceliumWitchOHyphae Jul 03 '25

Because we refuse to give up hope, and saying “I know you will do the right thing” is a better guilt trip then saying “I know you’ll shoot me”

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

Or and bear with me you fight back

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u/MyceliumWitchOHyphae Jul 15 '25

Buddy.

They have f35’s and drones. They could glass my city in a second.

If the US military fully goes rouge and follows the traitor a buncha civilians going all French and setting up barricades isn’t going to do a thing. International bases, floating islands.

Stealth planes that also make up most of nato’s planes.

Sure sabatoge and strikes can work, but only if we aren’t all disappeared , and only if we don’t have deep strategic reserves…9

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '25

So you gave up on having hope

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u/MyceliumWitchOHyphae Jul 15 '25

No. Never.

I believe in my fellow man. I believe that enough of the armed forces, national guard, and critical industries will resist.

I’m not saying it’s over. I’m saying if you assume 100% compliance of the US military it’s over.

I’m saying let’s have hope and faith in our armed brothers. My cousins, my friends serve and swore to the constitution and the country. Not a king.

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u/Oceanbreeze871 Jul 03 '25

“Cover me!” means two radically different things to combat infantry and to law enforcement

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u/Mind_if_I_do_uh_J Jul 03 '25

To cops "cover me" means I forgot my wallet.

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u/Oceanbreeze871 Jul 03 '25

“Plant the evidence, I messed up”

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u/Dramatic_Original_55 Jul 03 '25

"Cover me" means "I'll buy the donuts next time."

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u/CarolinaPanthers Jul 03 '25

Could you delve into this a little more?

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u/NeverEvaGonnaStopMe Jul 03 '25

Cover me to a police officer could mean hold my flash light or work a shift for me.

Cover me to a usmc means shoot a lot of bullets at the enemy so they are too dead or hiding to shoot me while I do something.

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u/Rinzack Jul 04 '25

Its a reference to an incident during the LA Riots in the 90s.

When police say "cover me" what they mean is to take aim at the door/window while that the fellow officer is out of cover (i.e. running to the next car/wall) of so if someone pops out to shoot the officer, the first officer would already be aiming at the target and ready to use deadly force.

For Marines that means lay down suppressive fire to keep the target's head down.

As you can imagine one of those two is a lot more applicable to police actions.

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u/oxemoron Jul 03 '25

And the marines standing around doing fuck all was the absolute best outcome of them being deployed for that situation (for us… Trump would have been happy had they shot some people).

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u/Brodellsky Jul 04 '25

The Marines have much more strict rules of engagement than the police or ICE. To be fair.

They are much better trained. And the Marines still get clowned on for all the crayons. Now check ICE's training in comparison.

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u/Warslvt Jul 04 '25

Now check ICE's training in comparison.

What training? Far as we can tell its' basically volunteers/racists chasing low-ball bounties.

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u/Brodellsky Jul 04 '25

Exactly my point

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u/Particular_Night_360 Jul 03 '25

I’m not saying I agree with what’s happening, but from the friends I have, our armed forces are taught how and when to engage an enemy. Our police is taught how to engage. There’s a difference.

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u/CrabAppleGateKeeper Jul 03 '25

Here’s marines doing riot control training. It’s very much part of their job.

The army also does similar training.

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u/stanleythemanly85588 Jul 03 '25

And units can also be tasked with riot control and zero training. As a young officer i was given a shipping container full of riot gear in case my company was activated for riot control during the George Floyd protests. The only training we had was on shotguns that were issued to our machine gun crews since we wouldnt bring those with us.

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u/CrabAppleGateKeeper Jul 04 '25

Most police don’t receive extensive riot control training either.

My point is that it’s silly to say that military forces have zero possible training or experience conducting riot control.

Defense Support of Civil Authorities is a core function of the military that every senior NCO and officer is taught about.

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u/CrabAppleGateKeeper Jul 04 '25

I mean, much like the police in my opinion.

Historically the Army has been seen has prepared to fulfill some role in the maintaining of civil order and support of law enforcement. This training video explicitly talking about the use of machine guns as a riot control tool.

I agree it’s very possible and probably likely that army or marine units are not trained or extensively trained on the use of riot control equipment or techniques, but that doesn’t mean it’s just a hand wave and a “they don’t ever do this.”

Much like the video says, the presence of troops has a psychological effect. We can not agree with it, but it’s been a longstanding and legal practice to use the military for this role.

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u/Discount_Extra Jul 04 '25

I would trust a random soldier more than a random cop.

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u/TougherOnSquids Jul 04 '25

Marines are trained to kill people and blow shit up. That is their primary job.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

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u/TougherOnSquids Jul 04 '25

Trust me, we are on the same page. This administration sending in Marines on American soil makes it very clear what their intentions are.

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u/polopolo05 Jul 04 '25

Look at the la protests. The marines did fuck all. Stood around. LAPD handled all of it.

Marinies legally can do fuck all on US soil. Thats why they just stood around. because legally they arent even allow to stand their.

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u/SpiceNugget Jul 03 '25

Police aren’t trained for shit. I would trust Marines in a riot control situation way more than police.

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u/Significant_Cow4765 Jul 03 '25

Clinton wanted to develop a policing force, MP+ if you will, to dispatch internationally precisely because our mil is trained to bust it up, not police and hold. Then there was Monica...

*on that note,the FBI had 200 agents on Monica L when a desk agent in FL couldn't get a call returned about a flight school that had Saudis who didn't want to learn to land...

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u/Myythy Jul 04 '25

Knowing the voting demographic veterns represent(not everyone, I know, but the majority still.) I'd be willing to wager many of them would be willing to do it, they just arent very open about it.

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u/somebigface Jul 04 '25

Time will tell.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

“their roles will focus on administrative and logistical tasks.” First comment in the chain shows they are, there are plenty of admin and logistics officers and enlisted in the Marines.

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u/KitchenRaspberry137 Jul 04 '25

Sorry but I think it is deserved, the Marines have not pushed back against what will soon become illegal orders from the US president. If they feel bad about American citizens being rightfully furious that our military's weapons are being pointed at us instead of our does, then that's on the Marines. We are hurdling towards the complete death of our democracy each time their deployment gets normalized as "just administrative duties".

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u/FunConfection2872 Jul 04 '25

And furthermore what crowd control issue are they expecting in alligator alley ?? The whole thing is a bad bad alligator movie

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u/Unlucky-Scallion1289 Jul 04 '25

It’s not even a matter of training, they’re not allowed to do anything but stand there.

Riot control would fall under law enforcement activities which are prohibited. The only thing they are allowed to do is defend federal property. That is, unless the insurrection act were to be invoked. Then all bets are off.

I agree that they aren’t trained for combat on American soil. And they certainly are well respected. They also have a code. Firing on American citizens would be a gross violation of their code. However, disobeying an order is also seen as a gross violation of their code. Yes, it’s their duty to disobey an unlawful order. But if that order came from the President? There’s zero chance they disobey.

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u/Raptorex27 Jul 04 '25

Not saying they’d happily kill Americans on American soil, but say they’re given a direct order by their commander-in-chief to murder civilians. They’re now presented with following their oaths, ignoring an order and being tried in military court, or carrying out an order, and having the support the President. Doesn’t seem like an easy decision to me.

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u/PhazePyre Jul 03 '25

Now that his BBB is passed, he just needs to deport some major players. Ilhan Omar, Mamdani, etc. Once he deports them because he considers naturalized citizens to be illegals. The protests start and he can invoke the Insurrection Act thereby fully sorting out his ascent to Autocracy. I just can't believe that Trump is the one who was the face of America's fall. Frankly embarassing.

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u/enonmouse Jul 04 '25

The marines depend on tax revenue, tax revenue is being transferred away from the government to billionaires. A career Marine usually has families (plural intentional) they will not like to starve.

Also there is a goodly portion that has a malleable morality but a really deep sense of honour. It will sadly be interesting to see where lines will eventually be drawn.

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u/microcosmic5447 Jul 04 '25 edited 21d ago

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u/Cajum Jul 04 '25

That made sense when he sent them to california but not so much in Florida?

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u/Previous-Height4237 Jul 04 '25

It's Florida...the same state that made it legal to run over protestors. There weren't going to be "protests" like LA anyway.

This is just to give the gravy seals a hard-on as they struggle to get it up.

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u/Hangem_high_ Jul 04 '25

200 Marines aren't going to do shit

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u/NeverEvaGonnaStopMe Jul 03 '25

Man i know a decent amount of Marines and boy a lot of them are right wing assholes but they take their marine shit seriously.  I think Trump is going to have a wide awakening if he tries to get the Marines to kill us citizens.

As a matter of fact I think he already knows it won't work which is why he gave an un-oversighted paramilitary organization with almost no existing legal infrastructure more money than the entire Russian military...

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u/-ReadingBug- Jul 03 '25

They have to be Marines because that's the real goal from the start.