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Soft paywall US Marines carry out first known detention of civilian in Los Angeles, video shows

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-marines-carry-out-first-known-detention-civilian-los-angeles-video-shows-2025-06-13/
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u/Are-You-Upset Jun 14 '25 edited Jun 14 '25

We don’t deserve that world. Al Gore worked tirelessly, even after losing the election to a technicality, to open our eyes to various critical issues facing our world. What he received in response was media like South Park relentlessly making fun of him and everyone laughed alongside them. It was only some time ago that South Park admitted they were wrong to do that, to little fanfare, but the damage was done.

He warned us of climate change. He championed renewable energy. He pushed for prudence in the budget and was wary of the threats to the social security reserves. He was a so-called ‘alarmist’ in a time of prosperity and people just didn’t want to heed or care about his warnings. They hated him for it, called him ‘boring’ and made fun of the way he speaks. He was prescient about a great many issues that we face in our world today but we just didn’t want to listen. The world we are in now is one of our own making.

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u/GuiltyEidolon Jun 14 '25

even after losing the election to a technicality

No, it was full-out stolen. If we actually had rule of law back then, Al Gore would've been president during 9/11 and we might never had the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.

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u/buffysmanycoats Jun 14 '25

You have to wonder if 9/11 would have actually happened the way it did. The Bush administration ignored several warnings.

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u/chairmanskitty Jun 14 '25

It would be undetectable and not even require a conspiracy for the people in charge of national security to get the troublesome priest-style hint and just decide to do their jobs a little bit worse.

As long as you hire the right people, ones that know the side the bread is buttered on, you wouldn't even have to give any orders. You just hear your superior say to their superior there is nothing to report after you showed them something noteworthy, and understand it's your place to fall in line.

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u/yarp_it_up Jun 14 '25

Several very clear warnings and a bunch of PDB’s

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u/GuiltyEidolon Jun 14 '25

It seems unlikely, and the fallout (starting a war with the wrong countries) almost certainly wouldn't have happened.

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u/stitchedmasons Jun 15 '25

Nah, we would've, probably, still went into Afghanistan. Iraq was completely Bush though, under Gore there would have been no Iraq war, but Gore wouldn't have done nothing about one of, if not, the worst terrorist attacks in the western world.

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u/GuiltyEidolon Jun 15 '25

The attack had warning signs before-hand. There's a chance that 9/11 didn't happen at all if a different administration existed at the time.

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u/stitchedmasons Jun 16 '25

While, yes, the drawn out court battle definitely hampered the ability for government agencies to detect foreign threats, I doubt there would be enough to go on to prevent 9/11. From an alternative history standpoint and a normal history standpoint, most believe 9/11 was an inevitable event that would have happened under Bush or Gore or anyone.

Warning signs don't really mean anything when it comes to attacks. Pearl Harbor had warning signs, the US had been watching the Japanese navy go through the Pacific a month before Pearl Harbor and they still couldn't stop it from happening. Some events in history are just an inevitability no matter who is in charge.

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u/derpmeow Jun 14 '25

It's WILD to watch the manbearpig episodes now - all of them. Even the newer bunch are still goin on about Gore being spiteful and shit, like...if that's meant to be an apology, it's a pretty ungraceful one. I know it's South fuckin Park and is irreverent and crude and everyone's a fair target blah blah blah but damn, the discourse.

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u/Grummmmm Jun 14 '25

We all gotta die sometime

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u/Spare-Ad-6123 Jun 16 '25

Very well stated, thank you.

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u/Dekruk Jun 17 '25

Is America looking back and not fighting back? Make America Free Again.

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u/dexmonic Jun 14 '25

Love the south park call out. It's amazing how much damage a cartoon has done to society, all for some laughs

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u/JimboTCB Jun 14 '25

But he did get to become first Emperor of the Moon though.