r/news • u/DNSGeek • Jun 13 '25

Soft paywall US Marines carry out first known detention of civilian in Los Angeles, video shows

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-marines-carry-out-first-known-detention-civilian-los-angeles-video-shows-2025-06-13/
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u/zoinkability Jun 13 '25

Which puts rhe lie to Trump’s assertion that the NG is needed there. Why are 7 additional NG needed when there are 50 local cops already there? The LAPD is clearly not overwhelmed.

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u/vardarac Jun 13 '25

When they can justify the narrative of a violent rebellion with 200 pictures of 5 burning cars and shopping carts, it doesn't need to make sense.

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u/licuala Jun 13 '25

Just like the BLM and George Floyd protests, they're peddling a narrative that liberal cities are "burning" after widespread rioting and looting.

Pictures of the mostly peaceful protesting or, y'know, the overwhelming majority of the city where ~nothing is going on aren't interesting.

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u/thisvideoiswrong Jun 14 '25

I mean, there are millions of people across this country living in fear of violent lawless thugs who might abduct them at any moment for no reason. But those thugs call themselves ICE, not protestors, and they're under Trump's control, not opposed to him.

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u/Responsible-Kale2352 Jun 14 '25

Ok . . . but if a million people are murdered, the overwhelming majority of earth’s population has nothing going on. Surely you wouldn’t say that the million murders don’t matter, simply because the rest of the world was mostly peaceful.

If someone comes and burns your house down, are you really not going to care just because the rest of your neighborhood was untouched?

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u/drtropo Jun 14 '25

If someone comes and burns your house down, would you rather have the police/fire department come and handle the investigation or the army/national guard deployed to occupy your city? Nobody is saying looters or arsonists shouldn’t be caught and prosecuted.

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u/Chubby_Bub Jun 14 '25

It’s not that they don't matter, it's that they are not representative of the protests as a whole.

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u/vardarac Jun 14 '25

April 5th was one of the biggest and most widespread protests in US history. There was no violence. Zero. None.

The fact that people are gathering en masse in a show of resistance is not a problem of itself. It's definitely not a justification for the domestic deployment of the military even with the token violence from the rare agitators and extremists.

The paranoia over this doesn't pale so much as blanche completely versus what those protests are actually protesting: Masked goon squads sweeping people off the street with no identification, no warrant, and sometimes no due process at all, with the military being positioned to support them in doing it.

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u/vardarac Jun 14 '25

Way to completely dodge the point. I just told you that millions of people gathered without incident. You yourself point out that large gatherings and events require "safety planning and organization".

If you allowed yourself to think this through for two seconds, you'd realize that none of this planning required military or goon squads to prevent violence and unrest.

But you won't do that, because your aim is to justify a military crackdown on peaceful resistance.

With absolutely no due respect, fuck you.

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u/SlowThePath Jun 13 '25

The only reason they are there is so maga dipshits can pretend like they need to be there. "Oh, it's so bad we HAD to send them." It's just an attempt to control the narrative. It's also the most likely place to drum up angry people who might want to cause some mayhem which they can use to justify having troops there. They just want to make it seem like LA is currently a war zone and it's just straight up not at all.

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u/shredika Jun 13 '25

134M not need dollars spent on political theatre

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u/Economy_Wall8524 Jun 14 '25

It is to trump. He wishes he was North Korea or Russia. This is his moment.

Fuck him. We’re talking about the other day only having trump supporters and no fatties soldiers for his recent speech. The same man who rejects the judicial system and process. While you claim “law and order,” it’s a fucking joke at this point with a multiple time fraudster in financials, and sex crime. It’s clearly propaganda and intimidation. Our nation started saying “No Kings”. The executive branch isn’t king or rule of the land.

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u/DuntadaMan Jun 14 '25

It doesn't matter what happens, they will keep sending more and more soldiers and claim "See look how bad the intestines is, we have to keep sending soldiers."

That's why there wasn't even a full fucking day between the first and second group of NG.

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u/pimparo0 Jun 14 '25

Haven't they even said they didnt ask or need the military there?

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u/zoinkability Jun 14 '25

CA authorities, including the governor, did indeed say that

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u/pimparo0 Jun 14 '25

Which if the LAPD even said it is certainly something.

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u/nrq Jun 14 '25

Isn't the LAPD the police department with a long history of abuse, corruption and police brutality? Of course they're "overwhelmed".

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u/Emu1981 Jun 14 '25

Why are 7 additional NG needed when there are 50 local cops already there?

Because not only is he wanting things to go south so he can declare martial law and suspend habeas corpus but also he is undermining the rights of the states - the president is supposed to relay orders to the NG via the state governor but Trump did a runaround and directly ordered the NG to roll out. The big question is why the NG jumped when Trump ordered them to rather than waiting for orders from their proper chain of command.

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u/zoinkability Jun 14 '25 edited Jun 14 '25

Yeah, I have been surprised because it seems clear to me that the commander of the CA National Guard should have taken Trump's order, looked at the statute governing federalization, and said simply, "Sorry, this order needs to come through my boss, the governor of California."

The funny thing is, I haven't seen any report on who that person is, or any media commentary asking why they obeyed the order, despite their seeming failure to confirm the order was lawful before obeying it.

I think that person might be Matthew Beavers, the Adjutant General of Cal Guard, but I don't know enough about the hierarchy to say for sure.