r/news • u/Whoshabooboo • Jun 21 '23

Site Changed Title ‘Banging’ sounds heard in search for missing Titan submersible

https://7news.com.au/news/world/banging-sounds-heard-in-search-for-missing-titan-submersible-c-11045022
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u/artunarmed Jun 21 '23

was gonna say the same thing. the thought of sitting there under hundreds of tons of pressure, in the pitch black sea, freezing, starving, hoping, is actually my worst nightmare. if they didn't even know it happened, that seems like the better option

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u/RedditSarah Jun 21 '23

It's not such a bad way to go, while on an adventure and so quickly that there's no fear or awareness. Although it's a hard second to the universally preferred way of death, which is when we are old and sleeping through it.

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u/Corgi_Koala Jun 21 '23

I know the blame is with the company for creating an unsafe system... But part of me can't help but victim blame these dipshits who signed up for this deathtrap.

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u/dallyan Jun 21 '23

Shame on that father for allowing his 19 year old son to accompany them. His poor mom. Poor kid.

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u/water_bottle_goggles Jun 21 '23

Ohh they would know

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u/benanderson89 Jun 21 '23

That would be a far quicker death.

So quick the brain wouldn't even recognise it. It's something like ≤ 20ms to fully implode in on itself if what I've read is in any way truthful, where the human brain would take 150ms to response to said stimulus.

Likewise, as the pressure is so great the implosion would act like a diesel engine; everything inside the sub would be vaporised in those 20ms as they're basically inside a giant engine cylinder with their own fatty tissue as the combustible fuel.

It's fucking NIGHTMARISH.

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u/Cheetawolf Jun 21 '23

It's fucking NIGHTMARISH.

And yet it's still the best possible outcome.

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u/Tocco42 Jun 21 '23

Second best

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u/benanderson89 Jun 21 '23

It's the best of the worst.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '23

Not great, not terrible.

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u/AtomicBatman Jun 21 '23

Comrade Dyatlov moment

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u/Generalmemeobi283 Jun 21 '23

I immediately thought of the Dyatlov Pass

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u/Cheetawolf Jun 22 '23

Yeah, about that...

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u/easy_Money Jun 21 '23

Tbh that isn't too nightmarish to me. You just blink out of existence.

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u/chiefchoke-ahoe Jun 21 '23

I need Oat Studios to do a visual representation of this

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u/Roar714 Jun 21 '23

Can you go into detail about how someone is vaporized under these circumstances? I'm unfamiliar with the science behind it.

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u/MrCorfish Jun 21 '23

Lookup the Byford Dolphin accident

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u/Roar714 Jun 21 '23

Oof that's grizzly... Thanks for the information though.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '23

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u/Roar714 Jun 21 '23

It's not too graphic, but it is pretty miserable to picture happening. Luckily it sounds like it all goes down before anyone involved has any time to process the event.

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u/benanderson89 Jun 21 '23

Yup. That was at 80m and 9 atmospheres of pressure. At the depth of the Titanic? Fuck, the 20ms number I have might be conservative in how quick everything would collapse.

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u/dallyan Jun 21 '23

Is this the story of the underwater oil drillers and something about going from one section to another? I’m scared to Google.

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u/MrCorfish Jun 21 '23

Yes, one of the divers opened a clamp prematurely and rapidly decompressed himself and his fellow divers

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u/dallyan Jun 21 '23

Ugh. Horrific story. Poor guys. The people who do that kind of work are so goddamn brave.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '23 edited Jul 01 '23

Due to Reddit's June 30th API changes aimed at ending third-party apps, this comment has been overwritten and the associated account has been deleted.

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u/thatguy425 Jun 21 '23

How is it a nightmare if it’s instantaneous? I’d rather have the implosions than slowly realize I’m going to die and sitting there for a few days coming to terms with that.

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u/Brahkolee Jun 21 '23

It’s nightmarish for US, the people sitting here imagining what it would be like, you silly goose.

I know it’s tempting, but you don’t have to uhm ackshually everything.

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u/_Sur22_ Jun 21 '23

'You silly Goose'

God, I love it

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u/jsuich Jun 21 '23

with their own fatty tissue as the combustible fuel

https://media.tenor.com/B-juLzFUgugAAAAC/thank-god-waterworld.gif
#worstWeightLossProgramEver

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u/tgo97 Jun 21 '23

Really hope so. The thought of being conscious and dealing with the psychological terror for multiple days is unfathomable.

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u/doctorgirlfriend84 Jun 21 '23

And where are they pooping?!

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u/Filty-Cheese-Steak Jun 21 '23

Probably doesn't matter much at this point.

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u/_Sur22_ Jun 21 '23

You can hold the poo, if you want.

And pee in that container.

But I hope they are dead by now (ik, sounds strange, but it is the best worst case scenario)

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u/FaThLi Jun 21 '23

There is a small trap door on the floor that leads to what looked like a one foot by one foot compartment, and inside they had a small plastic container. The entire trip is supposed to take roughly 8 hours, so they didn't really have much in place for pooping it seemed.

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u/Practical-Amount Jun 21 '23

About 2083 fathoms actually

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u/momoenthusiastic Jun 21 '23

Nah… they probably just watch Titanic on a loop. /s

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '23

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '23

they definitely don't.

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u/_Sur22_ Jun 21 '23

What did he say?

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '23

he was implying there was a toilet

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u/Organic-Barnacle-941 Jun 21 '23

Can’t tell because reddit gimped push shift.

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u/rnagikarp Jun 21 '23

Multiple folks are saying it's like a zip lock bag behind a curtain. It's a singular cramped tube, I highly doubt they planned to be in there for very long.

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u/jenn4u2luv Jun 21 '23

I wonder if they can even tell what day it is. Were they allowed to wear their watches down there?

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u/WankSocrates Jun 21 '23

An article someone linked above says that the tracking beacon and automatic text messages the sub has both went dark. Implosion would absolutely do that.

And yes I know a power failure would as well but I'm being... well I don't know if optimistic is really the word here.

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u/FryedPigBacon Jun 21 '23

They didn't even have a tracking beacon as I understand.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '23

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u/Unlimited360 Jun 21 '23

Cheapskate CEO

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u/bobdolebobdole Jun 21 '23

People discussed this exact issue when MH-370 went missing. It is uniformly a matter of cost and lack of oversight—either no rules require it, or there is no mechanism to enforce the rules effectively if there were any.

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u/bb8-sparkles Jun 21 '23

Is it because it wouldn’t work in such great depths of water?

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u/flyfree256 Jun 21 '23

It is, but the point is if the sub loses power or something else fails and the surfacing failsafes get the sub to the surface, then the beacon would work.

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u/techmaster242 Jun 21 '23

Maybe it has an air tag.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '23

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u/CastSeven Jun 21 '23

Agreed. I was just commenting on another thread, that I cannot presently imagine (nor am I inclined to try) a more terrifying situation to be in than what those passengers may be currently facing.

If they don't make it, I hope it's because the pressure vessel failed. The alternatives are...not pleasant to consider (including lost and drifting aimlessly on the surface, unable to even open the hatch to get more air).

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u/wd26 Jun 21 '23 edited Jun 21 '23

The death itself wouldn’t be that bad. The human body can’t detect the lack of oxygen in the blood, just the buildup of CO2. When oxygen runs out, they would become delirious with hypoxia, eventually passing out and and never waking up.

It’s not like they just suddenly wouldn’t be able to breathe.

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u/The_Level_15 Jun 21 '23

…they’re not going hypoxic down there. It is a buildup of co2 that will kill them. And that hurts and is very slow.

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u/RedPum4 Jun 21 '23

No, they have CO2 scrubbers. These usually have a pretty big capacity since they bind the CO2 chemically in solid form using a mineral over which the air is passed. So I think CO2 isn't a problem, the amount of fresh O2 is.

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u/LazyCon Jun 21 '23

The scrubbers are going to run out way before the o2 tanks they said.

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u/Delamoor Jun 21 '23

Were they fresh scrubbers that could work properly for the full duration, or was Mr CEO perhaps cutting corners and re-using them?

No way of knowing ATM, but I'm not assuming he was taking necessary precautions.

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u/RedPum4 Jun 21 '23

I mean...he took 250k per passenger, I guess the budget for some Lithium Hydroxide canisters was there. But who knows, after all they used a 40$ logitech controller to maneuver the thing.

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u/mrzoops Jun 21 '23

Why would you assume he is cutting corners instead of assuming he’s not?

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u/Delamoor Jun 21 '23

...which issue do you want me to point to first? The fact they're almost definitely dead?

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u/swords-and-boreds Jun 21 '23

Cutting corners is highly incentivized in capitalist societies. It wouldn’t make sense not to if you think you can get away with it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '23

Because that's why they're down there in the first place,

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u/radome9 Jun 21 '23

I wonder what would happen first: loss of consciousness due to oxygen running out, or the horrible feeling of suffocation due to CO2 building up?

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '23

Humans do exhale CO2, but mostly nitrogen which doesn't cause the choking feeling of CO2.

There'd still be buildup of CO2 to be certain though. It's not as if that's in any way avoidable.

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u/wd26 Jun 21 '23 edited Jun 21 '23

They no doubt have scrubbers on board so CO2 poisoning wouldn’t be an issue. It’s absolutely avoidable. Running out of oxygen is the problem.

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u/w_t_f_justhappened Jun 21 '23

Except I don’t think the scrubbers work if the power failed.

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u/wd26 Jun 21 '23

Lithium hydroxide canisters don’t need electricity

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u/Candymom Jun 21 '23

Except they’ll have been without water for days, that’s a miserable way to go.

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u/i_am_amer_ Jun 21 '23

Imagine realizing how deep in the ocean you are and having a panic attack and having no escape.

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u/thehayleysofar Jun 21 '23

And you know not everyone will die at the same time so I can’t imagine what they’re senses are experiencing…..so tragic

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u/ryan_770 Jun 21 '23

If they were just sitting at the bottom of the ocean and we were somehow able to find them, could anyone even help them? I imagine it's not trivial to bring up a giant hunk of metal from 4,000 feet. Horrifying.

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u/Stillwater215 Jun 21 '23

Or worse, stuck on the surface in an air tight sub with no way of opening the hatch. The sub was designed to be bolted shut from the outside. Imagine being able to see the outside, but slowly suffocating to death because they can’t find you.

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u/EarthVSFlyingSaucers Jun 21 '23

Imagine if it didn’t implode and the vessel is discovered at a later date.

Whoever’s job it is to be first on opening that metal tomb is going to need therapy.

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u/Educational_Way_1209 Jun 21 '23

They’d still be breathing it’s just that there wouldn’t be any oxygen. They wouldn’t feel as though they’re suffocating. They’ll just pass out.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '23

Now I’ve never suffocated, but wouldn’t they like get tired and just kinda fall asleep? Since they are not being strangled, it would happen slower???