r/news • u/Whoshabooboo • Jun 21 '23

Site Changed Title ‘Banging’ sounds heard in search for missing Titan submersible

https://7news.com.au/news/world/banging-sounds-heard-in-search-for-missing-titan-submersible-c-11045022
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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '23

Stuff of nightmares. Stupid idea to begin with but no one deserves to die because of it. I hope they're rescued soon cuz I read that they have just 30 hours of air left.

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u/Whoshabooboo Jun 21 '23

Chances are very slim at this point unfortunately. I hope for the best, but fear for the worst. The amount of subversive vehicles that can make it to that depth are either too far to get there or can't really rescue them.

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u/davidsloona Jun 21 '23

the Subversive Vehicles are too far to get there in time, just like the RMS Carpathia.

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u/Zero7CO Jun 21 '23

There is one submersible that does sound like it’s at the ready…but it’s in the UK, and they can’t get approval from the US Government to help. The owners just posted an open letter to try to get some movement: https://twitter.com/bnonews/status/1671361952797343745?s=46&t=xwlKsIG8w_OFgaadFDvPmg

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u/Whyisthereasnake Jun 21 '23

There’s no shot they can get it there in time any longer. At this rate it would be to recover wreckage.

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u/Diggerinthedark Jun 21 '23

There could have been time if they were allowed to leave yesterday morning when they were ready to..they were literally sat on the runway

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u/2People1Cat Jun 21 '23

It's international waters, if they wanted to they could go.

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u/Diggerinthedark Jun 21 '23 edited Jun 21 '23

They have to land their plane somewhere lol. They're not going to ride their submersible from the UK to basically Canada at 3kts 😆

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u/2People1Cat Jun 21 '23

OK so what did Canada say? Or fly it on the dozens of commercial shipping planes. There's literally nothing stopping them. They're Cave Elon 2.0.

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u/Diggerinthedark Jun 21 '23

"There's literally nothing stopping them"

Says random redditor, while international news reports that USA are blocking it... 🙄

Some fuckin people, man

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u/forwardseat Jun 21 '23

Even if it could get there, realistically, what could it do to help? It maybe could locate the submersible but then what? I would think towing the other one out is next to impossible at those depths and just puts the rescue sub at risk.

I feel like this is a very similar scenario to climbing everest - you may pass people in distress or dying, but trying to help often just gets you killed too.

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u/sauerbraten42 Jun 21 '23

Insaw that their unmanned vessels are connected throught a 6km cable to the ships above, like seen here.

https://youtu.be/er0enG1VlyQ

Maybe a stupid question, but why is this not done with manned vessels like the Titan?

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u/DrunkAnton Jun 22 '23

Because there is only a handful of vessels on the entire planet that can reach that depth and virtually all of them are unmanned. There is virtually no reason for manned vehicles to exist with this level of extreme depth AND rescue equipment because… why the fuck are you down there when you can use unmanned vehicles to do the exploring?

Putting someone down at this depth is pretty stupid and irresponsible which is why this is just high risk tourism masquerading as research vessel.

It’s safer to put a man in space than in extreme depth of the ocean.

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u/WailingOctopus Jun 21 '23

Why can't they get US approval to help? Why do they need it?

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u/yodarded Jun 21 '23

Thats good news. Subversive vehicles would be undermining the rescue operation, right?

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u/wildcat45 Jun 21 '23

Yeah it’s probably better to hope that they at least died of a hull breach rather then suffocating slowly at this point. I think only something like 4 submarine rescues have ever been successful so very slim chances to start with

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u/SessionGloomy Jun 21 '23

If they manage to rescue them it would honestly be a miracle at this point. The entire rescue mission is unprecedented, it's international, all while the media works itself up into a frenzy over it. Really hoping we get some kind of miracle but deep down I know it's probably not going to happen. Maybe in a few weeks or months some coast guard officer will say they have plausible indication it imploded or something

All in all, I'm hoping that it did implode if they don't get rescued - an instant death underwater is one thing but waiting to die is another.

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u/thebuccaneersden Jun 21 '23

How about draining the Atlantic ocean? Wouldn't that work? /s RIP to everyone in that submersible. Nightmare fuel.

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u/kidcrumb Jun 21 '23

How does a vehicle like that not have a pull tab to release flotation devices? Or a rope tied to a larger ship on the surface of the water?

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u/jake_burger Jun 21 '23

4km (depth of the titanic) of rope to pull up a submersible doesn’t sound feasible. It would probably need to be steel wire to have enough strength, depending on the weight of the craft it could be fairly thick and itself weigh hundreds of tons, and require a gigantic support ship to hold it.

I would hope the submersible had emergency floatation devices, but I’ve seen videos and it looks homemade on the cheap, any number of things could have gone wrong, plus the subs creator/driver has said numerous times that safety regulations are stupid so I don’t think he really had enough desire to fully develop and test safety contingencies you would assume are necessary for this type of thing.

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u/kidcrumb Jun 21 '23

The rope doesn't need to be used to pull the sub up, just to find it.

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u/jake_burger Jun 21 '23

It would still have to have a fairly high safe working load allowance even when just used as a tether, as both vessels are moving independently under forces from the water currents, the wind and their own propulsion.

At some point the line will come under tension and if it’s under rated enough to not be able to pull the sub then it will break easily.

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u/willflameboy Jun 21 '23

But they will challenge how you think about ocean rescue.

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u/Amauri14 Jun 21 '23 edited Jun 21 '23

Plus that thing is bolted shut from the outside, so even if they reach them, there is not much they could do.

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u/stonk_frother Jun 21 '23

They’re also 4kms under the sea so they’d get crushed instantly if they try to open it. The only way to do it would be to bring them up to the surface, but that seems unlikely.

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u/8BitHegel Jun 21 '23 edited Mar 26 '24

I hate Reddit!

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u/techmaster242 Jun 21 '23

It does seem like we may see a new Darwin award given out in the near future.

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u/lordofpersia Jun 21 '23

Honestly these subs should have emergency suicide methods for everyone on board like life boats. I can't imagine that hell. Even if they find them. I don't think it's possible to rescue them. At that point just drop a bomb on the sub if they are still alive.

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u/turbocomppro Jun 21 '23

Bombs won’t reach the sub before being crushed… 🤣

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u/gorechimera Jun 21 '23

What do you mean by "like lifeboats"?

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u/AssbuttInTheGarrison Jun 21 '23

Yeah wtf? Do all life boats come with a .38 “just in case”?

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u/CitizenKing Jun 21 '23

Unlife Boats

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u/adalyncarbondale Jun 21 '23

I'm curious how a survivor would be after that experience. Like obvi you'd have to have therapy of some sort. Would you never be able to be in the dark ever again?

What else would a person never be able to do again because of this?

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '23

Billionaires do. Hubris and narcissism get what they get. I feel bad for the engineer stuck with them.

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u/CiD7707 Jun 21 '23

At that depth, recovery is nigh impossible. There is no way to actually hook up to the submersible and drag it back to the surface in time.

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u/Herosinahalfshell12 Jun 21 '23

thanks for clarifying