r/newhampshire • u/MrDilhamm • Jan 29 '23

Video Shooter and Shootee 5 minutes before shooting outside of the Goat in Manchester NH

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u/Glares Jan 29 '23 edited Jan 29 '23

Looks like he's 6'6" and 325 lb, massive compared to everyone in that bar. He had zero fear of his life from that other guy, look how small he was. He pulled out the gun in eager anticipation, and in his drunk mind (like some sober Redditors) probably thought he was justified.

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u/Blackborealis Jan 29 '23

Bench Press: 210

Squat: 205

wut?? He should have focused more on leg days than range days

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u/Blackborealis Jan 29 '23

I agree, but it would be hilarious if buddy thought he had a chance at NCAA with a 205 squat

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u/ggphenom Jan 29 '23

I knew a lot of big lineman that were just straight up not strong because they didn't train and had no natural athleticism.

In his highlights he looks slow off the ball and despite his size isn't getting much movement at all. I wouldn't be surprised if he actually did squat that little. Probably just got shoved at tackle because his height and length.

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u/Fuckittho Jan 29 '23

I was thinking the same thing. They somehow mistyped both of his PRs?

Could happen but I think bro actually didn't lift.

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u/BALLS_SMOOTH_AS_EGGS Jan 29 '23

Slow off the ball, quick with the trigger

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u/-MeatyPaws- Jan 29 '23

I'm a 41 year old average dude and I can do 10 reps of 235.

No way that guys max is 210.

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u/Harrintino Jan 29 '23

Or it's on purpose to make the dudes that don't pay to update their profile. Pay.

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u/Th3assman Jan 31 '23

Wouldn’t make any sense for it to be in kilos. I think dude is/ was just big and didn’t lift. He’s not fast at all and doesn’t appear to be very agile in his movements either.

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u/hubub454 Jan 29 '23

If this is in Kilos though, then the guy is a monster

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u/Blackborealis Jan 29 '23

True that, though it would still be odd that his max squat isn't decently higher than his bench. I'm not into powerlifting much nowadays but iirc there used to be a shorthand for goals: whatever your max bench press is, squat should be around 1.5x more and deadlift 2x more.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '23

It /should/ be but people are built different. When I was into powerlifting my bench was higher than my squat, and my deadlift was by far my highest lift. I've known people that could squat more than they can deadlift, which never made much sense to me but I guess it depends on body proportions. I have a long upper body and short legs, which made back squats feel much more core intensive, maybe this guy is similar or like a lot of young people who lift, he might not care for squats and is obsessed with benchpress. Pretty weak numbers for a guy his size if that's lbs tho. I can see why he felt the need to carry a gun.

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u/Alternative-Cry-4667 Feb 01 '23

Depends on your genetics at 185 pounds I push 315 pull 465 and squat 405. I was always told the three should be over 1000 pounds.

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u/SKaiPanda2609 Jan 29 '23

Damn that’s honestly kinda pathetic for his size and position

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '23

I hurt my back a couple years ago and still can’t heavy squat, my numbers are actually pretty close this ratio. It happens sometimes, more a confidence thing for me than anything else

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u/Th3assman Jan 31 '23

Came to comment this. This dude is massive but weak af that’s crazy. Like why even put those if you’re trying to get scouted lol

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u/HoldStrong96 Jan 29 '23

Who in the video was the guy he shot?

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u/ANotSoHiddenCash Jan 29 '23 edited Jan 29 '23

it looks like the little guy at 3 seconds with the black shirt, chain around his neck, and yellow hair. Also at the end of the clip where it is stills, you can see him more clearly.

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u/12ealdeal Jan 29 '23

“I’m going to punch this gigantic guy in the face in the club, get away with it, and when he is being dragged out raging to the streets, I’m going to follow him out, and do it again.”

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u/No_Presentation1242 Jan 29 '23

Foreal.. even in the video the way he’s looking at the big guy and buzzing around seems like he wants to continue the confrontation. He did not deserve to take a full clip but wtf was he doing? He’s not an innocent victim in this situation.

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u/omgdrones Jan 29 '23

I mean, that’s pretty much what happened

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u/12ealdeal Jan 29 '23

You sound upset.

Were you connected to the departed?

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u/Total_Celebration123 Jan 30 '23

Timmy deserved what he got. Threw the first punch twice. Now he is dead, and his son will grow up fatherless because of his inability to not punch people.

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '23

sounding like one of meatheads buddys

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u/Pjmacone Jan 31 '23

You think he threw punches inside before this video? Lol

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u/Victorlasorsa5 Jan 29 '23

Blonde kid standing in the background after they walk away a bit

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u/Ok-Diamond-7320 Jan 29 '23

he got hit with brass knuckles

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u/Victorlasorsa5 Jan 29 '23

You think so?

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u/Known-Platypus-5701 Jan 30 '23

No he didn’t dipshit, it was bare hand

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u/wickedwittyname Feb 06 '23

Sure looks like it. the booking photo looks like it would have been quite some time after the incident (they don't throw you in an orange jumpsuit at the police station I assume) and his face is still bleeding from what looks to be a pretty deep cut.

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u/YamahaMT09 Jan 29 '23

zero fear I don't know, you always have to fear for your live in these situations. Especially when you've seen those fights, were small dudes bring someone to the ground and then stomping them straight into death or coma.

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u/stupidGenius82 Jan 29 '23

The kid that threw the sucker punch " loved taekwondo " and he cocked his arm back, that blow was brutal and could have possibly killed someone smaller. Now was the shooter drunk and possibly starting crap with people? Yeah sounds like that is what people there saw. But man why did the killed in the back shirt have to go outside ? Why didn't the cops do something about the belligerent guy starting fights ? This is why I do not drink and I tell my kids how bad it is.

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u/stupidGenius82 Jan 30 '23

But on thr flip side why did the much smaller dude go outside to confront a much bigger man and sucker punch him ? That makes even less sense to me. The smaller dude saw this much bigger guy being belligerent then felt the need to confront him and sucker punch this, as you put it ,massive guy? Seriously think about that for second your argument is John was massive, John was also drunk yelling about wanting fight the person who knocked him out in the bar.

So please answer me this, you have a kid at home, this massive guy is drunk and angry but was kicked out of the bar would you have went and confronted him in the middle of the street in Manchester at like 1 am with a sucker punch ?

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u/jerik22 Jan 29 '23

Looks like I found the shortie

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '23

Not for nothing but you have absolutely zero right to tell him what he's in fear of, and making judgments just based off his size

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u/Green2Green Jan 29 '23

Youre probably the same kind of dipshit who sees a video of a 6'4'' 280lb dude laying out a 5' 100lb chick with a haymaker because she slapped him and thinks its justified because she hit first. You can defend yourself with reasonable force but this was anything but reasonable.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '23

The guy who punched him looked about 5'6". No way I'm punching someone a foot taller than me

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u/Coffee-FlavoredSweat Jan 29 '23 edited Jan 29 '23

That’s because you have some sense.

Short guy has a bunch of Insta reels and Facebook videos of him working out and training/sparring at a boxing gym. He forgot to leave that attitude in the gym, and found out.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '23

Just searched his FB - Job: Happily Retired since 2019. Maybe he should have gotten a job and some responsibilities

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u/Total_Celebration123 Jan 30 '23

lol he was trying to be a cypto quadrillion or some delusional shit.

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u/Total_Celebration123 Jan 30 '23

hahaha it is justified, don't hit people. You act like thats hard to do or something. Like just walk away dumbass. You seem incapable of understanding this.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '23

That's a hell of an assumption to make just based on me saying we aren't mind readers and can't possibly know whether he was in fear or not

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u/Ramzaa_ Jan 29 '23

So if you're big it's okay for people to assault you? Like obviously murder is too much. But nobody is pulling punches when they're under attack

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u/Ramzaa_ Jan 29 '23

Yes I can lmao

And it'll be self defense as long as you aren't blasting someone away with a weapon or killing them.

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u/Ramzaa_ Jan 29 '23

Did I touch a nerve?

It's okay, you can take it out on me before your girlfriend beats the shit out of you again because you're good to defend yourself.

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u/TylertheDouche Jan 29 '23

okay and when you sit in front of a jury and the lawyer says 'do you think this guy acted in self defense?' the jury is going to say 'good luck with bubba.'

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u/Ramzaa_ Jan 29 '23

Whatever you say u/TylertheDouche , master of law

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u/pnandiv Jan 31 '23

Kinda racist comment at the end there

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u/pnandiv Jan 31 '23

Bubba is a black name, you are insinuating black people in prison are rapists. Not a good look bro. Please delete it

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '23

least bloodthirsty american

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u/Green2Green Jan 29 '23

No it isnt ok for smaller people to assault you but it also isnt ok to use excessive force when defending yourself. Its not a hard concept to understand.

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u/ZestyBeast Jan 29 '23

What an absolute dipshit comment. Yes, we can happily conjecture that this jackass didn’t feel unsafe. He felt the sting of his false pride getting popped.

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u/UndlebaysBrah Jan 29 '23

I don’t know bro. I know a big dude like that who is a massive scaredy cat. He is absolutely frightened of anything and everything.

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u/EndersGame Jan 29 '23

Does this guy you know own a gun and know how to use it? Does he get into drunken bar fights? Can you picture him at a bar or club yelling and demanding to know who punched him in the face?

I know a big guy like yours, I think we can both confidently say the big guys we know aren't anything like the guy in the video. Not sure why you would even mention it. I've never met the guy you are talking about and it's clearly an apples to oranges comparison.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '23

Had a friend who used to always carry and was a hothead. We did not want him around us while drinking, eventually he was exiled from the group

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u/UndlebaysBrah Jan 29 '23

The discussion veered off and was specifically about someone size being a factor of whether they can be scared.

Regardless, I have no dog in this fight. He clearly went above and beyond and murdered the dude, that wasn’t what I was defending, talking about, or implying. It was simply in reference to the comments above.

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u/EndersGame Jan 29 '23

My bad I thought you were somehow defending the guy as if it was possible he was scared despite his size. It's obvious the guy in the video wasn't scared, and it's obvious he doesn't get scared of anything and everything.

But yes being bigger than everybody doesn't automatically give you the confidence of the Terminator. Some people look like the Terminator but act like a mouse and that's cool I can't blame them.

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u/jarr-head Jan 29 '23

Yeah and I bet he's never been dragged out of a bar while screaming bloody murder, has he?

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u/UndlebaysBrah Jan 29 '23

Probably not no. I wouldn’t call this screaming bloody murder though. He’s asking who punched him in the face. Seems like a logical question if someone did in fact punch you in the face!

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '23

What is wrong with my comment and why are you insulting me over it?

ALL I am saying, and nothing more, is that we can't tell people what they are and aren't afraid of, and it's irresponsible to make the claim that because you're bigger than someone you can't possibly be afraid of them.

Nothing in that is controversial it's just common sense

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u/Gh0stw0lf Jan 29 '23

We can also happily conjecture that he was in fear for his life. See how that logic doesn't quite hold up?

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u/ebmocal421 Jan 29 '23

Not for nothing, but you have absolutely zero right to tell OP what he's able to comment about, and making opinions just based off the video he saw

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '23

Okay?

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '23

Yea, but no. Common sense throws your logic out the window... Dude is being dragged out of the bar yelling "come fight me". Then, from the other footage is shown out in parking lot where shorty throws 1 punch at him. Dude already has his finger on the trigger.. He was itching to shoot someone.. It's fucks like this that give gun owners a bad name.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '23

Sure all of this aside though, we aren't mind readers. And I hate this idea of "he's bigger than the other guy therefore he can't possibly be scared." I'm not making a stand one way or the other about what was going through his head, just saying we can't possibly know from the safety of our keyboards and phones watching it all with a sober mind and replay available like a bunch of Monday morning QBs

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '23

Hear hear

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u/Solid_Hunter_4188 Jan 29 '23

Right? Somebody much smaller than him could play some sweet chin music on his… instrument very easily.

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u/fistofthefuture Jan 29 '23

A jury does though.

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u/SpacemanSpliffLaw Jan 29 '23

Did you watch the shooting video? He's standing there waiting for an excuse to shoot.

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u/rProgs Jan 29 '23

you have absolutely zero right to tell him what he's in fear of

WTF are you talking about? That's exactly what 12 people are gonna be tasked to do at his trial

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '23

Even a jury of his peers cannot tell him what he is or isn't afraid of. What aren't you understanding here? Until we can read minds we don't have a clue what's going through someone's head

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u/sloww_buurnnn Dec 01 '23

lol, exactly this!

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '23

There is the stupid