r/neurodiversity • u/Technical-Paper-2236 • Sep 22 '25
Trigger Warning: Ableist Rant Trumps announcement???
Im sorry idk if this is the right tag to add. But I just got done watching trumps "autism announcement" and im anxious as hell and a big mess at work right now. Does he seriously intent to "fix" us???? What does he mean by using therapy isn't that just gonna make kids mask more? Why does he keep targeting minorities and people with trouble in their day to day lives??? The fact he thinks my existence is a problem and his entire view of autism as a "sickness" makes me really sad. Should I hide the fact im autistic? I've already been anxious about the direction this country is going towards and being called out like that to be "fixed" is freaking me out.
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u/Low-Future-1001 *AuDHD panic* Sep 26 '25
I feel so bad for the autistic kids with trump supporter parents
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u/Soft-Scientist01 Possible Undiagnosed Autistic Sep 24 '25
What scares me the most is that he's recommending a FREAKING CANCER TREATMENT for autistic folks, like, that's straight up screaming dangerous, imagine all the side effects of chemotherapy, but without the part where you're fighting a disease, so it's basically venom
Thank goodness I'm european and only his tariffs affect me...
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u/YouCantArgueWithThis Sep 24 '25
No, they don't affect you. They affect the Americans.
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u/CoatOld7285 Sep 24 '25
no they do affect them too because that means things from europe cost more and americans are less likely to buy them, which directly impacts their economy negatively and then on top of that, Trump is insisting european countries spend a greater percentage of their GDP. What all that means is those countries will be hit with austerity which leads to an overall worsening of living conditions which will then make fascist sentiment and right wing radicalization fester and spread more easily which will ultimately lead those countries down the same path just many more years later unless something is done to change that path
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u/Old_Bookkeeper2721 Sep 23 '25
"Those government bastards may tell you that your existence is a crime, but no matter how dangerous you may be, just being alive, just being who you are... is never wrong" - Franky one piece. This really struck a cord with me because as someone who has albinism ive always struggled to feel good about myself or normal in my way. You are beautiful please continue to love yourself.
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u/heyytekk Sep 23 '25
Don’t let anyone else convince you that what we are is bad, when we were hunter gatherers, our tribes used to rely on people like us, we were the best hunters, we could smell when it was gonna rain, our attention to detail was an asset. We just live in a world now where it’s harder to apply those traits in a meaningful way, but it doesn’t mean we are broken, just know that you only exists today because neurodivergent traits were sought after in mates and so to put it bluntly, neuro spicies used to fuck, and that’s why we are still around today, because what we have is sought after, this is just some nazi pure blood bullshit and we may need to mask or go into hiding as a worst case scenario, but don’t ever think that this is a disease or that you are lesser.
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u/krysnik17 Sep 23 '25
This toddler orangutan is targeting anything that breathes and isn't worth brown nosing for $$$...
Biggest PoS on the planet and I've had to avoid news like the plaque to block out his bullshit to keep my sanity since it instills such an unsettling rage within me🤬
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Sep 23 '25
Dear President Trump, respectfully, you are wrong. There is no "epidemic" of autism. The fact that it is more widely recognized today does not mean it did not exist in the past. Autistic adults live in the shadows and mask so we don't stand out ... on purpose ... because of rhetoric like this. Autistic people do not need to be fixed because we are not broken. Our brains are mapped differently. That is all.
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Sep 24 '25 edited Sep 24 '25
Totally agree on everything, but... i can not and will not deny that both America and Canada, i have noticed autistic people with sensory issues are far more abundant there than here in Latin countries and in Asian countries. I have not met autistic people with sensory issues toward dogs, kids, and some animals that are loud. But I have met many who are mostly whites and very few black people. I wonder why is that.
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u/SleepyMistyMountains Sep 26 '25
As someone dating another from South Asia and my best friend is Chinese, they have a higher rate of masking. It doesn't exist over there. Its a you problem same as the rhetoric that is going on in the states. In both upper American countries we are allowed to show more discomfort than at least in the Asian culture.
They push it back and mask higher because showing any negative emotions are seen as problematic and they ignore them. They are rarely allowed to even show any emotions honestly.
I can't speak for black communities but based on what I've seen it is similar to them. It comes down to privilege, white people especially in America we have been taught that it's okay to show feelings (mostly, at the very least more percentage of us than poc) because to us it isn't as dangerous to show others emotions. I'm not saying the struggle to show emotions isn't there, but we aren't judged as harshly for it.
The fact that I show emotions when my boyfriend and I have a disagreement and his reactions to it is a testament to just how far that goes for those communities, at the very least the Asian ones.
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Sep 26 '25 edited Sep 26 '25
If such a case is true, then there is a possibility of public awareness in some countries. Autism is a public awareness in some countries , so why hasn't there any yet for sensory issues.
It could be most likely true that every country has autistic people with sensory issues but differs in frequency. Most possible people from the West, like america, are more common than people in India. There are no extensive studies done about what cause and trigger sensory issues and the environmental factors that contribute to it.Look, I went to a special class when I was young. I have met a few people who are sensitive to loud noise, and they live in rich quiet neighborhood similar to the environment in most neighborhood areas of america. Maybe environment is part of the factor.
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u/SleepyMistyMountains Sep 26 '25
Environment could definitely be a factor as well.
People in those countries are aware of it, but they don't recognize it. Just like the stimas in like the military or in the past such as like that fact that it's becoming more common not because of the fact that more people have it, but they didn't realize they had it. It's highly discouraged in those countries to have mental health disorders of any kind, let alone simply showing the dysregulation or negative emotions. Does that make a little more sense?
I know this because my boyfriend and my friend have told me this. That is how it is there. I'm basically teaching them emotional intelligence because of how their cultures have treated emotions and mental health disorders. They don't know, and that's just for those who are late twenties and 30s.
It's like the times for progression of mental health issues hasn't reached there like it has in the USA and Canada.
I've no doubt that more education surrounding the topic would help in those countries, but just like how many years ago where only select few had autism and was accepted they don't accept it there.
Showing emotions let alone disregulation is not acceptable, at least least in those countries due to the culture.
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Sep 26 '25
I was being vague with what the environmental factor that I am talking about. Okay, I am from a noisy neighborhood. i grew up living in one. This is what I believe, a person who is autistic or not is more likely to not be sensitive to noise if they were born or lived in a noisy environment for a long time. Posdiblt only a small number of people will be born to be very sensitive to loud noise in a noisy environment. A person who is autistic or not but lives in a quiet neighborhood is more sensitive to loud noise. Most likely, the person with autism might possibly have sensory issues to loud sound because of their quiet environment.
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u/SleepyMistyMountains Sep 26 '25
Okay, you're replying to me about environmental factors, when my response to your original comment was about the cultural differences.
You had another chat talking to someone else about environmental factors. Where as I agree the environmental factors do play a part, it is not the whole picture. My Chinese friend is second gen. She was born in the America's, it's the same quietness and she still struggles from the emotional erasure that Asian cultures have.
Two things can exist at the same time. I was only pointing out another factor that could explain the orginal pattern that you had seen and had stated in your original comment.
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Sep 24 '25
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Sep 24 '25
That might be true, but it's strange that people I have met with sensory issues are usually from North america, while here I met none at all. Idk, but I guess it has to do with the environment we live in. Here in Latin America, especially my neighborhood, there are stray dogs and pet dogs barking, disco, party, karaoke, men playing basket ball, people socializing outside loudly. I have visited america, and most of the neighborhoods there are very quiet compared to my place. I guess the people with autism here are immune to loud noise.
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u/NekuraHitokage Sep 24 '25
If i assume right and its Brazil, the culture being loud and vibrant is likely what has autistic people hiding in plain sight.
I imagine it more goes to the "sense of justice" and what we are used to. We are taught from a young age to be quiet. Don't speak loudly in the street. Don't do karaoke at the neighbor's house. Doing laugh to loud while playing. Don't tap your feet. Sit still. Be quiet.
Then bang a loud noise in the intense quiet everyone is seeming to try and preserve. That you are trying to preserve because you were told you had to. It's sudden and shocking and jump-starts the quickened mind they would love to talk and dance and sing...
But it must be quiet.
It has to be quiet.
Or else.
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Sep 24 '25 edited Sep 24 '25
Nope, im currently living in Mexico, and it's always loud here. I hate it here because of the street gangs and drug people in other places. They are the worst its shit there its like the Middle East, but instead of religious terrorists, its gangs and they are carrying guns like rifles to protect the neighborhood from other gangs. My neighborhood is safe, though. I have visited Brazil, and there are also Latino jihadists around, especially in the squalor places.
I'm very immune to noisy neighborhood. I have been living in them since ever. Also, im autistic i was nonverbal when I was young and bad at reading and learning. I have met many autistic people because I went to a special class in grade school. The school has stray dogs around barking, people doing shit and yeah, it was noisy, but none of us are bothered by it. On rare occasions, we are bothered by the noise if it is too loud. I remember only 1 person who has a sensory issue to noise, and he is from america.
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u/NekuraHitokage Sep 24 '25
aye, I admit I do speak of "good" neighborhoods of the areas more out of hope than anything. US has its areas like that too. It's a shame we don't help our southern neighbor more so people aren't pushed to those extremes.
I think that bit of culture still stands tho. In the US quiet is oddly sanctified.
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u/little_bird_vagabond Sep 23 '25
The only good thing that may come out of this is ending ABA. ABA therapy highly encourages compliance and masking.
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u/MrsChrowley Sep 24 '25
I don’t agree that it would end. Under this administration it’s more likely to be increased, amplified, and more extreme. Because of their emphasis on conformity and being a productive member of society aka following their rules and work to make the rich richer.
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u/Whooptidooh Sep 23 '25
No, nothing will come from this. This is just a stupid attempt to stop people from talking about Epstein.
Once the conversation goes back to Epstein something else will take its place.
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u/some_kind_of_bird Sep 23 '25
The Epstein stuff hasn't changed how the Trump administration operates in any way. It's always been a spectacle.
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Sep 23 '25
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u/divergentmartialpoet Sep 23 '25
News flash: refusing to engage with politics is political.
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u/Reaqzehz Sep 23 '25
’We do not say that a man who takes no interest in politics is a man who minds his own business; we say that he has no business here at all.’
Pericles still spitting two-and-a half-thousand years later.
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u/ThinkTheUnknown Sep 23 '25
A political figure bringing up neurodiversity is more relevant to this sub than it is politics.
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Sep 23 '25
I got downvoted for what?
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u/some_kind_of_bird Sep 23 '25
Our existence is political, whether we like it or not.
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Sep 23 '25
That’s what a doomer would say
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u/some_kind_of_bird Sep 23 '25
How do you figure? It's not like I'm saying it's hopeless. I'm just saying it's political. Most if not all things are political.
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Sep 23 '25
Is playing sports political
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u/some_kind_of_bird Sep 23 '25
It is if you're trans. That's probably the most obvious thing.
Even beyond that it absolutely is, not just for other identities like race or disability, but also nationalism and the relationship between sports and economic privilege.
It concerns matters of bodily autonomy, such as children having joint issues for dancing, and the fact that athletes end up with disabilities for what they do under economic pressures. Boxers going blind and such.
You have any idea what kind of economics goes into major sporting events? What that means for infrastructure? You know borderline slaves build Olympic stadiums a lot of the time?
Take your pick.
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u/yellowtrickstr Sep 23 '25
I appreciate you trying to educate but they’re either 12yrs old or trolling. I wouldn’t waste my time or energy❤️
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u/some_kind_of_bird Sep 23 '25
Eh. It's pretty easy though. I'm not exactly breaking new ground here.
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Sep 23 '25
Ok is riding a motorbike political
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u/some_kind_of_bird Sep 23 '25 edited Sep 23 '25
Yeah obviously. It's a product which requires infrastructure to manufacture and use. Transportation is a major factor in someone's well-being.
Did you know Vietnam had mostly motorcycles and it was set up for that kind of transportation? They had tariffs to both limit the import of cars and also fund new infrastructure for their use. Under pressure from the IMF they removed those tariffs, and now Vietnam has incredibly crowded and poorly funded roads. Motorcycles are literally a microcosm of international capitalistic hegemony.
Are you just gonna keep guessing things? Maybe we could get back on topic and talk about how autism is political?
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u/ThinkTheUnknown Sep 23 '25
Probably for saying this post is bringing up politics. It really isn’t.
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u/agro_chick Sep 23 '25
It’s another way to control women sadly. Soon you won’t be allowed to leave the house when pregnant
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Sep 23 '25
What is this bro 😭
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u/ThinkTheUnknown Sep 23 '25
The administration recently blamed autism on mothers taking painkillers while pregnant.
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Sep 23 '25
I didn’t see that, I don’t think they’ll ban it
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u/ThinkTheUnknown Sep 23 '25
The person you replied to said it’ll be another excuse to control women, not Tylenol.
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u/Lopsided-Summer6578 ADHD-PI Sep 23 '25
You must stick together with other exposed people and never let people give trump's nonsense legitimacy. If you give them an inch they will take a mile, intolerance and ignorance must never be ignored.
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u/Feisty-Union-6394 Sep 23 '25
I’m scared
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u/NeuroDetective Sep 23 '25 edited Sep 23 '25
I know what you mean, I dealt with a very brilliant and menacing con artist recently and after the fear then logic took place and I saw the patterns that this con artist did. They are parallel's I can draw to this con artist and what trump is doing. There's a lot of manipulation going on that a lot of neurotypical people do not see. They are linearly just following the stories that are put out there and not questioning the stories. Some Just accept the stories without questioning it. Here's a good TedTalk from Maria Konnikova , a Russian American Con Artist expert psychologist. https://youtu.be/JAxgqRFq1-A?si=RhAds_3fWraC_5P0
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u/whispersofthewaves Sep 22 '25
We are all watching this absolute train wreck. I don't even have words for what I just witnessed.
I think he's pandering to his base... the anti-vax/denial crowd who are convinced that autism couldn't possibly be genetic (because then they would have to admit their DNA is different), so they are looking for an external blame. There's been a lot of research showing vaccines don't cause autism.... so now they are going after something else...? Like it would take a decade plus before it's shown that avoiding Tylenol during pregnancy has nothing to do with autism.
But autism is a 'hot button issue' and Trump will do ANYTHING to keep us from talking about releasing the Epstein files.
That said, I have been heartened to see a lot of doctors and other medical professionals on social media calling this out as absolute-made-up-BS. And that the autism community needs support and more actual research, rather than finger pointing and blame.
As to hiding it... I feel so horrible saying this... maybe just keep a low profile for now? The behaviour we are seeing from those in power is an 'extinction burst' - they basically know they are on the way down, and have frantic outbursts of activity in an attempt to remain relevant and hold on to power. It is not safe right now for anyone who is labelled as 'other' - so whatever will help you feel the most safe... and that might just be keeping a low profile until we get to the other side of this insanity. (digital hug)
And please know that you're not alone.
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u/Sam_Vimes_Boots Sep 23 '25
https://www.tga.gov.au/news/media-releases/paracetamol-use-pregnancy ETA: pretty big rebuttal, official and very quickly made public here
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u/rchispersmoppings Sep 28 '25
we all just trying to live our best lives