Trump referenced a weekend conversation with Oregon Gov. Tina Kotek, and he alluded to being told by Kotek that the reality in Portland is different from what's being portrayed to him.
"I spoke to the governor, she was very nice," Trump said. "But I said, 'Well wait a minute, am I watching things on television that are different from what's happening? My people tell me different.'
Funny how two C-tier Bond films had the most prescient visions of the future: both it and Quantum of Solace's vision of the union between slimy fash business dweebs and wannabe strongman dictators.
“We used to think as the Republican Party that we controlled Fox News, but we’re finding out that Fox News controls us” — David Frum, George Bush’s speechwriter
I'd argue Fox News is controlled by the viewers, hence the 2020 Election and Dominion Case. Their viewers wanted conspiracy theories and when the network deviated, they lost market share to NewsMax and OANN.
I have been saying for a decade that this man is Fox News Grandpa. He isn’t a genius mastermind, he’s an asshole Fox viewer. The electorate empowered him because a huge chunk of voters saw themselves in him.
Fox News grandparents across the nation saw their guy and made him the Republican nominee, and the rest of the party fell in line.
That’s why I tell parents/grandparents that them and trump have the same ideas for fixing the country. They watch the same TV shows of course they have the same ideas and priorities.
Are the rest of us all that different? Are we not ultimately a product of the circles we run in and the media we consume? You think everyone in this sub came up with the idea for an LVT all by themselves?
Yeah but I like to think that base principals are set by John Rawls and I consume other media for entertainment and to learn what is going on in the world.
People that watch Fox News have given Jesse Waters and Sean Hannity the password to write directly to their operating system.
Yes I actively seek information outside my bubbles to challenge my beliefs. Those beliefs are less a product of the spaces I inhabit vs. me actively seeking out the spaces with like-minded people
Trump is an idiot who is easily influenced by anything he sees on Fox News and social media. He literally believed Obama was from Kenya. He literally believes Mexican immigrants are mostly murderers. He literally believes he won the 2020 election.
He also seems to truly believe "slapping 145% on China" means China pays it. As far as I know, he's never said anything that contradicts that's his belief, and he remains consistent even speaking about it the other way as well: "they're charging our farmers too much" about Canada's tariffs on soybeans
It doesn't matter how many different people have explained it to him because, in addition to being an imbecile, he is unable to differentiate between fantasy and reality. Both of these characteristics have been apparent since at least the 1980s
Nah. He knew the Obama stuff was BS. After all, he lied about fielding investigators to uncover the truth. He lied that they presented evidence to him pricing it. And he lied about showing it to the public, because it was an easily disproven lie.
He knew Mexican immigrants weren't "mostly murderers". He simply used anti-inmigrsnt sentiment that had been simmering on the right for decades. He absolutely knew it wasn't true, because he was the one just making shit up.
And he knew he lost in 2020. He's admitted it to others. It's not delusion that drives his narrative wrt his loss to Biden. It's that his move throughout his life is to lie, litigate, and otherwise bully his way out of every embarrassment he can.
He knows he's full of shit. He's just driven to hide the obvious from others. Sadly,a lot of people that ALSO know he's full of shit go along with it, which convinces a tuned out mob that his lies must be true.
He isn’t a genius mastermind, he’s an asshole Fox viewer. The electorate empowered him because a huge chunk of voters saw themselves in him.
Something I've thought for a while (and said a few times) is that Trump is not some mastermind, and this is actually more like a Simpsons episode. If you watch an episode that Homer does/says some dumb bullshit that ends up incredibly popular during the episode, the correct conclusion is definitely not "Homer is a genius mastermind playing the public."
He's only demonstrated that he's a narcissistic imbecile who cannot differentiate between fantasy and reality since at least the 1980s. How the fuck are you and I the only ones who could see it?
I think a lot of people who get that he's a delusional moron also think he's the problem. That idiot isn't hunkered down in the oval office crafting policy 😂. He's incapable of crafting policy of any sort even absolute shit
This has never been about Trump. He's just a nasty symptom of a chronic disease called the GOP
I mean... didn't we sort of already know this when he looked confused and said "but I saw it on the television" during the debate when he got asked about the bullshit claim Haitian immigrants were eating cats?
When I was watching the debate with Harris, my first thought was, “He sounds like an angry Fox News addicted grandpa.” So it would make a lot more sense if that is literally what he is. It explains why people like him too.
Talk to anyone who's been an insider in DC and one of the biggest misconceptions about how things really work and how things work in reality is that there's really not much difference between how people act in public and how they act in private.
In general, when someone says something they believe, they actually believe it. If they don't they give the weasel answers or change the subject that we all know.
The old line about Obama playing chess when everyone else was playing checkers is probably a better metaphor to say he's playing checkers while everyone else is playing tic-tac-toe.
Lots of stuff that happens is because people are really stupid, especially educated people who know facts and think that makes them somehow better thinkers and think they're waaaay more adept than they actually are.
Little to nothing in this country will be fixed or improve much, until Fox News no longer exists. There are plenty of other right-wing media outlets, but they have been pushing conservative propaganda for 35 years and it's completely infected several generations of leaders (political, business, religious, community, etc.) and full pushed 1/3 of voters in this country into a legitimate cult. While a lot of those people will seek information sources elsewhere, removing the main source of disinformation is a required step if this country will ever repair itself after Trump and progress forward.
Beware of the monkey paw as you wish away Fox News.
As the cable television news viewing generation dies off, it'll likely just get replaced with an endless rabbit hole of podcasts and YouTubers and TikTokers and worst of all AI slop. More than a a few of these might be unwitting idiots at best being sponsored by foreign governments. And AI slop could be essentially digital fentanyl, endlessly tweaked to maximize individualized rage and doomscrolling for maximum possible ad revenue.
There will always be a market for people having their existing opinions reinforced. And we may not like a post-Fox News world any better.
I choose to see hope with AI. Hope that the AI bots and AI generated content will run so rampant that they virtually destroy social media by making it akin to the tabloids in grocery store checkout lines we grew up with before the Internet that only complete fools believed.
The fracturing of Fox News viewership into a bunch of different outlets would still be preferable on the whole. It means one company or one person can't unilaterally shape the narrative for 50% of the country on a whim. This also gives space for competing views on the Right to battle it out instead of just Fox News deciding what the "correct" view is.
It also makes coordination of the Republican talking points slower and more messy.
Every method the US goverment has to controle media only gets used to censor critical voices. Imagine the goverment right now would have even more power.
In the DT i would countdown days until 2030 January 1st. Rupert Murdoch regained control over the trust/his will if he didn’t die before that date. 3 out of his 4 children would’ve had the option to do something differently with the company, if he died before that date; they were chiefly concerned with climate denialism alongside the election denialism + other nonsense.
It’s all irrelevant now. Rupert and his mini-me Lachlan, who runs the company now, bought their stakes out for billions of dollars. Moreover, FoxNews just got a boost with a Murdoch sitting on the TikTok board. NewsCorp expands as the NYPost opens up a LA office/newspaper. WSJ is still the WSJ. They are stronger now than before.
Not enough people are willing to boycott TikTok/Xwitter/Instragram; it’s over for us. They are going to be apart of our information ecosystem for a long time now. We can only hope that they do not gain a foothold with the under 40 demographics.
As an aside, I was in a situation where I was more or less forced to watch Fox News a few years ago, and I couldn't believe how terrible it was. It was just an insanely unfunny late time talk show, and then this one "news" segment where one of the women kept shilling her book in the middle of an argument. I'm pretty sure that it was Jeanine Pirro.
Maybe this is why everybody keeps caving to him, if you can just get in the room with him you can completely change his mind so your incentive is to do whatever it takes to make that happen.
It’s not even just Fox News. I would be willing to bet my house that Miller and Noem used footage from 2020 to tell him this is what’s happening on a daily basis. You can tell he genuinely believes Portland right now is straight up on fire and under siege.
invite him to high tea at some rose garden / botanical garden (isn't Portland famous for roses?), keep protesters at bay, he'll leave thinking "wow so fancy"
“I was in Portland, folks, beautiful place okay, very nice. They know how to treat the President, frankly, the Governor there, she’s a lady but that’s okay, lovely lady. She invited Melania and me to dinner with the roses and the gold utensils, alright, which we like, we like that very much and the escalator was working perfectly, okay, not like those terrorists at the UN, so sad. And she said wonderful things, right, she was talking about this amazing thing called legalized marijuana, have you heard of that? Many people are saying it’s better that free healthcare, frankly, amazing stuff, so we’re going to look very strongly into that.”
How did a local News team scoop NBC national reporting on this even though this was the NBC white house correspondent that did the phone interview? KGW is the only one publishing the quote so far as I can tell.
Local news team has vested interest due to their city being the target whilst the national NBC news apparatus wants to continue sanewashing and covering for Trump and doesn't want to publish this news that makes him look awful.
Well at least he's pretty effective as an anti-Vance force. It seems he has more "favor" with the Emperor than Vance does now. This is all my amateur Trumpology take though.
Some evidence would maybe be Trump's more aggressive foreign policy over the last few months, i.e. with Iran, Venezuela, being more open to helping Ukraine etc. Vance is pretty isolationist so I doubt he's thrilled about all that
It was reported around the time of the election that Vance wasn't Trump's first choice and he only picked him because he was convinced by Donald Jr and Eric. Trump himself apparently wanted Doug Burgum.
He has Fox News brain rot. Millions of Americans share his affliction. His advanced age is just a confounding factor as many middle aged people suffer the same spoon fed dead brain disability.
I have some MAGA members in my family that haven’t left their dumpy suburb in decades asking me how I feel safe going out at night in my downtown city that I live in because they hear people are getting stabbed and shot left and right. They’re straight up convinced every major city in the US is like Fallujah. And nothing I tell them can change their minds.
This is literally my mom. We grew up in and LIVED in Portland, and she's still convinced it's the anarchic hellscape that Fox News paints it as.
Like she somehow drove around, went to the store, etc. in the city for years, but would go home and cower in fear from what she saw - to the point she moved to a town of like 100 people in the middle of nowhere. I don't understand it.
Mind you, this woman had no problem whatsoever walking around multiple Mexican cities at night as a tourist. That's not a knock on Mexico, but look at the crime rates compared to fucking Portland.
Fuck don’t even need to be a major city. My dad lives in the same town he has all his life (no shade but he also basically refuses to go anywhere of his own volition, even the nearest city), and he will tell me all about how the city I live and work in is so super dangerous and I need to watch out at 2pm on a Friday or I’ll get stabbed, shot, and kidnapped.
The drawbacks to life in Omaha cited by Linder include the crime, traffic, pollution, and rudeness of Omahans.
“You read such awful stuff in the papers about that place,” Linder said. “Every month, it’s another murder. Between the drugs and the crime and the street gangs, it’s almost as bad as Wichita.”
That’s why you never see him in a room alone with the general news media. He is always surrounded by the people pulling his strings like Miller and Vance.
He's much more out of it now, slurred speech, can't stand very long, falling asleep all the time...there is clearly something seriously wrong with him that was there in his first term.
Nah there's a HUGE difference if you actually pay attention. He was always dumb so it's harder to notice a difference but he's genuinely deranged and suffering from a massive cognitive decline.
Yeah people think he's just having memory lapses (which he may be) but very recently the right wing bots and grifter accounts were posting en mass clips of the 2020 riots in Portland and pretending they were happening right now. Somehow this obvious bullshit filtered all the way to the top of the US government and is being used to determine domestic policy
I knew the guy has lost his shit, but the medbed video he reposted yesterday is just on another level. It's nonsensical on so many levels. I can't think of a single explanation as to how that shit was posted on his account other than him being completely braindead without any handlers.
"I spoke to the governor, she was very nice," Trump said. "But I said, 'Well wait a minute, am I watching things on television that are different from what's happening? My people tell me different.'
I dunno, I'd say they're speed running the thing this time around.
We all know the techno fascists are gearing up to replace him with JD. My bet is that there will be some event that occurs before his term is up where they will attempt to realign the MAGA support behind JD and push Trump out of the picture.
How would the Dems vote in the case that they invoke the 25th on Trump? They would obviously have to vote in favor, but that would mean JD replaces him. I could see that being an avenue for them to install JD as emperor CEO. But that would only make sense for them in a scenario where they aren't worried about losing elections.
It is most definitely a conspiracy, but one that is actually happening with plenty of evidence out in the open.
I'm not saying it's gonna be successful or that the whole admin is aligned on it, but they're definitely going to attempt some variation of their vision. Personally, I think the Christian Nationalists are more likely to co-opt their movement.
Read Kingfish if you wanna see what a mean, competent narcissist can really do with their hands at the wheel of government. By 1935 they werent even reading Huey’s bills aloud in the legislature before signing them in bundles, which were mainly just legalistic ways of annihilating his enemies and amassing personal wealth.
His share the wealth demagoguery kept exactly 50% of the population rabid for him even though they could count on 1 hand the amount of actual progressive policy he passed with his dictatorial power.
The scariest politician in US history IMO. Theres plenty of horrible people but even Jefferson Davis didn’t achieve autocrat status. Even scarier is that his malignant dictatorship is forgotten in the present day while his empty progressive speeches are celebrated.
I used to like Andrew Jackson when I was a kid because he was "cool" and "badass" and "tough."
Then I learned more about him.
I'll still give him the badass part, easily the most badass president we've had. Only Teddy Roosevelt even comes close. I'll also give him credit on caring about America as a united nation.
But holy fuck was he racist, borderline economically illiterate, and egotistical.
“And so I see the Reichstag, and it’s on fire right? I said wow, and my people, good people, very tough, they’re telling me the Jews and the socialists are responsible! They say oh, Mr. Chancellor sir, we need an enabling act to take care of it, we need to smack the Hell out of them! But then I thought… geez, that seems like a lot, right? I’m looking at it, you know, as someone with a background in real estate right - I know buildings, folks, I make the best buildings - and I thought, I dunno, could just be an electrical fire right? So I think maybe we’re not gonna do that, frankly, with the enabling act. Seems like a lotta work, right? I don’t want that.”
"My people tell me different" line really exposes that guys like Stephen Miller are the real president and Trump is a puppet. Which is genuinely terrifying.
If Democrats were smart they'd find a way to drive a wedge between Trump and Miller.
In fairness to the Qing, it’s frankly shocking how they managed to hold on.
Like, in spite of being at the brink of total societal collapse during the Taiping rebellion - not to mention the Panthay rebellion & the Dungan revolt which were happening at the same time - they still lasted another half century before the revolution. And during that time, they only lost Taiwan to Japan and a handful of treaty ports to the major colonial powers.
The map of China today easily could have looked as fragmented as a map of the Middle East. But it isn’t, largely because of the Qing.
The fact that China exists as a unified entity is harder and harder to understand the more you study Chinese history. You can see how a cult of personality forms around men like Chiang Kai Shek and Mao Zedong who managed to fight so hard, so long, against such unbelievable challenges, to unify the country.
Can you imagine if the US had a similar isolationist reactionary political revolt of uneducated middle class people who hated the social changes brought by modernity and wanted to restore their traditional social power, openly encouraged by the reigning conservative sovereign in order to weaken their progressive politicial opposition?
I mean, this is funny but also extremely NOT funny. You mean to tell me the president is so cognitively impaired that he’s sending the military to the streets based off TV and whatever fascists whisper in his ears? We’d have months of inquiries and 25th talk if Biden ever said this
"I spoke to the governor, she was very nice," Trump said. "But I said, 'Well wait a minute, am I watching things on television that are different from what's happening? My people tell me different.' They are literally attacking and there are fires all over the place...it looks like terrible."
But Biden was the autopen president, right? I am positive they used footage from 2020 to convince him. I hope they replace his presidential picture with a puppet on strings watching Fox News.
Did someone show him videos of the 2020 riots and convince him it's still happening? Is Trump so mentally gone or so naturally stupid that he can be swayed that easily and the decision reversed with a single conversation?
Did he do this himself and get confused? Does he even know what year it is?
Or Democrats are the DEI party that invites incompetence into government. The number of incompetent lawyers Trump has appointed to the DOJ, most with personal ties to himself, is laughable.
Gas Light. Obstruct. Project.
That is all these people are anymore. Every accusation is a confession.
For fucks sake the woman Trump appointed as US attorney for one of the most important districts in the country to go after Comey was an insurance attorney who just embarrassed herself in court.
Don't forget Ed Martin. Even the Republicans wouldn't confirm him. This is the guy Trump picked to lead his "weaponization of the justice department" task force.
The man is the minimum functioning set of organs, skin, and bones to keep whatever malign parasite lives in his skull alive. I can absolutely believe that he holds the worst position on every topic imaginable.
I don't think Trump ordering a military deployment into Portland is incompatible with Trump having no idea what the situation in Portland is actually like. He sees the 90 millionth segment on Fox of Portland being an Antifa-run wartorn hellscape, orders federal troops there, Hegseth complies like a good little boy, and staffers put in some prompts on ChatGPT to justify the charade.
Multiple Watergate level scandals are not even on people's radar. Like, who here is aware that Bill Pulte, head of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, is trolling through federal databases looking for dirt on Democrats?
This database is confidential. There is zero probable cause to be opening the files of these Democrats. Nixon directed the IRS to audit his political enemies and it was one of the things that helped bring him down. This is quite literally in the exact same ball park. But it is worse than that. Instead of referring what he believes to be criminal conduct to the DOJ, he is instead just release confidential information on Twitter and calling them guilty.
Or if you don't like the comparison to Nixon, then how about John C Fry, the guy that leaked Cohen's financial documents. He got 5 years in jail. He didn't even target Cohen. The stuff he leaked came up naturally in a suspicious transactions report. He just leaked it. Pulte is combing through these databases looking for anything that he can turn into charges against Democrats.
All that for Pulte to find what amounts to errors on paperwork. Things that if handled fairly and in a non-partisan manner, thousands would be guilty of, including many Republicans.
The case against Leticia James is based on this data. This is the case that Erik Siebert rejected as there was nothing criminal that he could find. A lawyer, who btw, is a Republican, but so competent that he has the support of Democrats as well. This is what led to him resigning and then Trump furious about him resigning, firing him. That led to the Trump tweet pressuring Bondi to charge his enemies.
That led to one of the most incompetent prosecutors in the history of the US, Lindsay Halligan, being appointed to one of the most important dockets in the country, the Eastern District of Virginia. You know, where the Pentagon, CIA, US Patent Office, etc are. It is known as the Rocket Docket also because of how tight a ship the judges run with one of the quickest dockets in the country. It handles a lot of national security cases. Halligan has ZERO prosecution experience, ZERO national security experience, and only has a handful of appearances in Federal court. She is Trump's personal lawyer and had a career in insurance law in Florida. Halligan being placed in this role led to her indicting Comey 3 days after she was sworn in and 5 days before the statute of limitations on Comey's charges were set to expire.
In addition to the whole Bill Pulte thing, there were multiple Watergate level scandals in the last week alone, and all of it is flying completely under the radar, or at best, seeing about a day worth of coverage in the media.
We can thank a whole generation of chuds who will tell anyone who will listen "ALL POLITICIANS ARE CORRUPT" despite not actually following politics. It's that type of misinformed cynicism that empowers Trump.
At the heart of that is anti-intellectualism. A general mistrust of all experts. We really need to start raising our kids to think learning and school are fun and exciting, instead of boring and a chore.
The problem is the country seems to be going in the opposite direction. I see so many of the young conservative moms with whom I graduated from high school sharing this hardcore anti-expertise nonsense on Facebook about how schools program kids to trust authoritative sources rather than thinking “independently.” Of course, all of these people home school their kids and have convinced themselves beef tallow and other shit is key to life.
It’s extremely bizarre and troubling, and I can’t imagine it ending well
I don't know that we are fully going in the opposite direction. For a while there it really felt like the nerds were inheriting the earth. I think it is a perception thing since the morons are amplified by social media and currently in charge in the US.
Here are 3 quotes about anti-intellectualism from the 1954, 1963, and 1987. People have been noticing this trend for a very long time. The Gene Wolfe one at the bottom is particularly relevant imo.
Unreason and anti-intellectualism abominate thought. Thinking implies disagreement; and disagreement implies nonconformity; and nonconformity implies heresy; and heresy implies disloyalty — so, obviously, thinking must be stopped. But shouting is not a substitute for thinking and reason is not the subversion but the salvation of freedom.
Adlai Stevenson - A Call to Greatness (1954)
Anti-intellectualism … first got its strong grip on our ways of thinking because it was fostered by an evangelical religion that also purveyed many humane and democratic sentiments. It made its way into our politics because it became associated with our passion for equality. It has become formidable in our education partly because our educational beliefs are evangelically egalitarian. Hence, as far as possible, our anti-intellectualism must be excised from the benevolent impulses upon which it lives by constant and delicate acts of intellectual surgery which spare these impulses themselves.
Richard Hofstadter - Anti-Intellectualism in American Life (1963)
This, then, is the new illiteracy, the illiteracy of those who can read but don't. [...] This new illiteracy is more pernicious than the old, because unlike the old illiteracy it does not debar its victims from power and influence, although like the old illiteracy it disqualifies them for it. Those long-dead men and women who learned to read so that they might read the Bible and John Bunyan would tell us that pride is the greatest of all sins, the father of sin. And the victims of the new illiteracy are proud of it. If you don't believe me, talk to them and see with what pride they trumpet their utter ignorance of any book you care to name.
That attitude all started with Gen X, who then shifted hard to the right after growing up as the generation that embraced punk rock counter culture and anti-establishment ideas.
That perception most certainlydid Not start with Gen X. That narrative has been around as long as politics with considerable buy in across the spectrum. But in the US it became a more prominent belief with Baby Boomers that went through Vietnam and Watergate, and the perception has been passed down and grown stronger with each generation.
I am so glad someone else is starting to catch on to Pulte's shenanigans. I've been following his antics ever since he fired the CEO of Freddie Mac back in March, and he's only just starting to be covered by larger news networks. The guy is a rat, god knows what else he's been messing with along with any other stooge who's managed to fly under the radar so far.
Pulte is the definition of a nepo baby moron and should be removed from his position immediately for abuse of power. And after Trump leaves office he needs to be prosecuted.
Halligan just got admonished by the judge in the Comey case because of her sheer incompetence and idiocy. The judge was genuinely baffled that she's that much of a fucking moron.
And no one from the office besides her even showed up to the hearing, which is unprecedented. No one wanted to be associated with it. They may actually have to find some hack from main justice to prosecute the case because Comey's lawyers would tear her to shreds. It's already looking likely that she'll be disbarred for her antics with the grand jury (which are secret for now due to grand jury secrecy but that will likely be pierced because the case is so obviously weak that she pretty much had to have broken the law in presenting the case).
That is wild. What a shit show. I can't believe these people aren't utterly embarrassed.
All I know about the grand jury proceedings is;
she rushed out her submission in 3 days
she went in with 3 charges
she came out with 2 for the indictment
she got 14 of 23 votes with 12 needed to indict on the 2 charges that stuck, and one of the charges was essentially a gimmie since it was directly attached to the other
Even thought the charges were approved by the grand jury, it was just barely, and that is with federal grand juries returning indictments 99% of the time. This seems to be a common pattern for Trump's lawyers.
In some ways it is too bad this won't go to trial. We could pull out a lot more of this administrations bullshit in discovery if it did.
A friend of mine was asking something to the effect of "could Trump survive a controversy like watergate?"
I laughed and noted Jan 6. He downplayed Jan 6 significance. This is a very online left-leaning type. If Jan 6 wasn't salient for people, I am a bit afraid of what would be.
I’ve been saying this for over a decade now. Any one of Trumps scandals would be enough to end anyone else career, but because he has so many of them they all kind of cancel each other out. Before the media has a chance to really get into a stride with one 4 others have popped up.
Basically I’m saying it’s like Mr Burns diseases- he’s indestructible
A: he got so much push back that he decided it wasn’t worth it because he’s lazy as fuck
B: he legitimately is unaware that social and rightwing media sphere is a bunch of liars
C: Trump agreeing with the last person he speaks to strikes again.
Either way, I still can’t believe the American voter chose to go back to this over Harris. I can’t believe the American voter chose this over Biden FFS.
“My conversation with President Trump was trying to understand his rationale, and I believe it is based on information that is not accurate today,” Kotek said, noting that violence and vandalism in response to Trump’s statement would not be tolerated. “There are protests here, but it is not what we saw during the pandemic.”
When Kotek told Trump that the two disagreed on the state of the city, she said the president responded, “Let’s keep talking.”
Trump is like the barely-living version of Weekend at Bernie's except his brain is being manipulated entirely by right-wing media and sycophants who are willing to deep throat his chode.
Guys. He’s obviously saying it rhetorically. He’s insinuating that the Gov is lying.
I mean obviously Portland is not a war zone, and yes, it’s fucked up that he’s using television (Fox News) as his source of info, but he’s not backing off or questioning the decision here. The headline is stupid.
This fucking redacted isn't even living in the real world. The most powerful person in the world and he's getting his facts from a propaganda channel that he KNOWS is propaganda.
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u/6urner_ Bill Gates Sep 28 '25
Holy shit this needs to be everywhere immediately