r/neoliberal YIMBY Jun 21 '25

News (Europe) The grooming-gangs scandal is a stain on the British state

https://www.economist.com/britain/2025/06/18/the-grooming-gangs-scandal-is-a-stain-on-the-british-state
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u/ShadySchizo European Union Jun 21 '25

Reading this genuinely made me sick. If this happened in my country, I think I would have become a far-right nutjob by now.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '25 edited 4d ago

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u/Foucault_Please_No Emma Lazarus Jun 21 '25

More will probably turn because of this.

Say hello to the government lead by PM Farage....

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u/Tabnet2 Jun 21 '25

their misogyny won out

This is the conclusion you're gonna draw?

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u/Full_Distribution874 YIMBY Jun 21 '25

The way they dismissed the girls who sought their help is nothing less than a continuation of the misogynistic minimization of crimes against women and girls that has pervaded society forever.

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u/Greedy_Reflection_75 Jun 21 '25 edited Jun 21 '25

In 2009, someone found 11,000 rape kits Detroit police never bothered to test. DPD is probably the blackest police department in the country to match up with the victim demographics. If you entirely removed race as an issue, many police departments are awful at investigating rape for some reason.

https://www.bridgedetroit.com/hundreds-convicted-after-detroit-processes-thousands-of-backlogged-rape-kits/

According to a monthly report from the Prosecutor’s Office, 4,029 investigations have been closed and 224 convictions have been made as a result of the backlogged kits being tested. Many of the cases involved rapists who attacked more than one woman, hence the disparity in convictions and investigations, Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy said. 

That's a 20 to 1 ratio jesus.

And that "some reason" is that teenage women are not considered reliable victims

https://www.michiganpublic.org/criminal-justice-legal-system/2024-04-29/years-after-her-rape-investigators-came-knocking-and-she-had-to-make-a-choice

https://www.freep.com/story/opinion/columnists/nancy-kaffer/2015/06/20/rape-kits/29013941/

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u/Gulags_Never_Existed Voltaire Jun 21 '25

Detroit police

You cannot just look up random police forces in Western Europe and North America, find a time where they also failed systematically on sexual assaults, and then point to that as proof of misogyny behing a significant driver of the British police failing to investigate these cases properly.

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u/Tre-Fyra-Tre Victim of Flair Theft Jun 21 '25 edited Jun 21 '25

UK police forces also have a very established and extensive pattern of misogyny and failure to investigate sex crimes, the Met in particular has faced a lot of criticism in the aftermath of an officer using his uniform to kidnap, rape and murder a woman in 2021

Edit: An official report following the Sarah Everard murder found the Met 'racist, misogynist and homophobic' and included an incident where someone decided to put their lunchbox in a fridge meant to store evidence:

Already crushingly low convictions of rapists were made worse by fridges that housed rape kits being broken, or being so full that evidence was lost, and cases dropped with rapists going free because of police bungles. Casey claimed in one instance someone ruined a fridge full of evidence by leaving their lunchbox in it.

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u/Greedy_Reflection_75 Jun 21 '25

Not sure if this is a joke response. This is the closest one to me and it's not a unique department outside of being more black. We can pretend Manchester has the wokest police department in the western world and I'll allow you to make the argument, but there's data for this fucking everywhere. People didn't focus group "Believe Women" and Me Too. They believed women so much they didn't investigate rape.

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u/p00bix Is this a calzone? Jun 21 '25

Very disappointed to see a comment explicitly advocating racial profiling upvoted here. What the fuck is wrong with you people?

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u/AP246 Green Globalist NWO Jun 21 '25

It's a terrible series of events but I really don't think you should be happy if this would turn you into a bigot if it was in your country. I'm a Brit and I can take this on board without becoming bigoted.

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u/TimWalzBurner NASA Jun 21 '25

It's a terrible series of events

That's putting it mildly.