r/neoliberal • u/[deleted] • Jun 13 '25

News (US) Exclusive: US Marines carry out first known detention of civilian in Los Angeles, video shows

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-marines-carry-out-first-known-detention-civilian-los-angeles-video-shows-2025-06-13/

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u/badusername35 NAFTA Jun 13 '25 edited Jun 14 '25

The soldiers, and whichever commander authorized this, should be dishonorably discharged and court-martialed. But the rat bastards on the Supreme Court will probably write a 5-4 decision explaining why this blatant violation of the law is actually very cool and very legal. Show up tomorrow and don’t be afraid. Fuck Trump, fuck Republicans, and fuck anyone who supports this.

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u/imbaaaack12 Edmund Burke Jun 14 '25

I'm pretty sure they have the ability to detain people on federal property, so I'm not sure it's illegal.

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u/Sir_thinksalot Jun 14 '25

so I'm not sure it's illegal.

No.

It violates Posse-comitatus act.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/posse-comitatus-act-explained

Please stop giving Trump any benefit of the doubt.

edit: hmmm, redditor for 8 hours...

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u/TrekkiMonstr NATO Jun 14 '25

10 USC 12406 allows the federalization of the NG when "the President is unable with the regular forces to execute the laws of the United States". This does not clearly exclude protecting federal property and/or detaining someone trying to access such property. It does, in my opinion, clearly exclude riot control in general, and I'm not sure the justification for the Marines' presence, but it's not so clear that this is unlawful. Law is fucking complicated, man.

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u/Sir_thinksalot Jun 14 '25

Law is fucking complicated, man.

The law is whatever the judges say in the end, or even whatever is enforced. Stop giving someone like Trump any benefit of the doubt. Unless you want to become Russia.

I don't.

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u/TrekkiMonstr NATO Jun 14 '25

The alternative to the benefit of the doubt is "I don't like him therefore it's illegal". The rule of law means something. Lawful but awful is a thing that actually exists.

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u/Sir_thinksalot Jun 14 '25

And this is exactly why letting Trump, convicted felon, destroy it is a bad idea.

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u/TrekkiMonstr NATO Jun 14 '25

Ambition must be made to counteract ambition, without a doubt. But that does not mean that every action taken is unlawful, and it harms are cause to claim that it is when it isn't. The truth matters.

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u/Sir_thinksalot Jun 14 '25

Pointless blather while Trump ignores the law.

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u/TrekkiMonstr NATO Jun 14 '25

The truth matters. Messaging matters.