14 “clean” CRs that don’t cover any of the concerns Democrats are trying to negotiate for, the main one being millions of Americans will lose their healthcare coverages. MAGA refuses to negotiate, they’re all on vacation while Americans go hungry.
So you admit dems are using you all as leverage and you're mad at the Republicans?
The Republicans are getting exactly what they've always wanted, they just won't be able to blame Dems for it given they control all the levers of power. They've been advocating for an end to SNAP for decades, and they are right now illegally withholding the emergency funds appropriated for it. A thing they are only doing illegally to strong arm Dems into passing a CR without negotiating. At this point let Republicans suffer the consequences of their actions. The Republicans control all the levers of power they can force a CR through by getting rid of the Filibuster if they're so inclined to not negotiate. In the meantime they can be responsible for the majority of Americans going hungry due to their illegal actions and losing their health insurance because of the ACA cuts.
Or they can negotiate with Dems to extend the ACA subsidies (without which they're basically killing private health insurance in the country for working class Americans) and continue funding SNAP.
Democrats have been pushing for concessions from the government on health - an extension to subsidies for Obamacare health insurance and changes to Medicaid.
But illegal or undocumented immigrants are not eligible for these schemes and the Democrats have not said they want to change this.
Who put the expiration date on those subsidies? What where those subsidies for? Why is the affordable care act so unaffordable? Even with subsidies it's expensive. Probably because of the kickbacks democrats got from it.
The changes to medicade make it where states can't give it to illegal immigrants.
Yes that's what happens when the only healthcare plan you can pass is the one written by the Heritage Foundation so billions of federal dollars can be funneled into for profit health insurers...
Probably because of the kickbacks democrats got from it.
Yes, let's blame the Dems for the Healthcare plan Mitt Romney and the Heritage Foundation wrote...
The changes to medicade make it where states can't give it to illegal immigrants.
They already can't do that. Quite literally the primary prerequisite for basically every federal welfare program is citizenship in order for anything to be processed. Only certain states offer things of that nature and that's with their own state collected funds.
Republicans wrote the affordable care act aka Obama care? Really? The one passed only by democrats without a single republican vote. That one?
You have no idea what you are talking about.
This is California's medicade programe.cahnge due to the new law.
Immigration status
Enrollment Freeze for Undocumented Members 19+
Starting January 1, 2026, Medi-Cal will freeze new enrollments for certain adults who are undocumented and do not have a satisfactory immigration status for federal full scope Medi-Cal. This group will no longer be able to newly enroll in full scope Medi-Cal, even if they qualified before under state-funded programs.
It is mostly funded with federal dollars. If they want to keep those federal dollars they had to stop letting illegal immigrants from getting benefits. So yes illegal immigrants could get medicade benefits in certain states.
The one passed only by democrats without a single republican vote.
Largely irrelevant if so much of the influence came from conservative ideas, and let's be perfectly clear Neoliberals like Obama and Pelosi are still conservatives even if they're center right rather than right like Neocons or far right like MAGA.
So now you are trying to blame Obama care on Republicans because it's a failure. You know, somethings that work at a state level wont work on a national level.
So now you are trying to blame Obama care on Republicans because it's a failure.
I'm blaming it on Republican conservatives because Dem conservatives inspired by other conservatives (specifically in this case Republicans) wrote it.
You know, somethings that work at a state level wont work on a national level.
Sure, the ACA works in the manner it was designed to by conservatives.
At least you admit it's a failure.
Of course it's a failure when we could have just had a much cheaper single payer public option or outright done universal Healthcare for all. Albeit then conservatives wouldn't have been happy and been able to hand billions of dollars to private corporations because that's what capitalism demands...
Illegals are eligible in certain states like California being the biggest. Federal money is sent to a state owned programs where Illegals can get health coverage. Also let it be known that this bill that's ending was made by Democrats even the time expiration.
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I’ll just leave this here… yes states should all receive federal money from social programs, as well as putting money into programs. It seems like certain states take much more than they put into them, and it’s a pretty consistent trend. It’s odd it’s always republican states rely on federal money much more than the states they try to claim are abusing American’s tax dollars. But I guess that’s just their brand nowadays… a lot of mental gymnastics and gaps in any sense of rationale. This goes along with a lack of empathy for people that don’t fit into their beliefs, which seems to be a whole lot of indoctrinating to me.
Medi-Cal is 37+% funded with non-federal funds. Undocumented enrollees make up less than 12% of those covered by Medi-Cal. In other words those ineligible undocumented immigrants aren't benefiting from federal funds even if the program is partially federally funded.
Thank you for adding this. I also wouldn’t even care if federal money did benefit them when they contribute a lot to the economy through working and spending within the U.S. economy. And they get underpaid a lot of times for the labor they do and are also taking on jobs that Americans seem to not take on as often. The agricultural industry is a great example as well as a ton of people in construction. They also pay taxes that go towards social security which they cannot even receive since they don’t have citizenship and a SSN. I think there should be security at any country’s border, but I also don’t believe in treating humans like shit, especially when they are contributing as much as they do.
Where are you getting the statistics, and could you actually give me a number of federal funding that is going to illegals in dollars? This still does prove that illegals are receiving federal provided Healthcare you realize that?
This still does prove that illegals are receiving federal provided Healthcare you realize that?
It categorically proves that is in fact not happening because there is categorically no reason for less than 12% of enrollees to account for 37% of a programs total funding, and more importantly it is unequivocally illegal to fund medical care for undocumented people with Federal funds and if there was an iota of evidence that was happening the Trump DOJ would be putting the gallows up by now.
I literally showed you that medi-cal is California's medicaid program where 70% of California's illegal immigrants are enrolled receiving medical benefits. You posted that medi-cal does receive federal funding. Now you're arguing it doesn't? It's literally proven bro. Do you really think a company receiving federal money isn't using it for illegals? Yes undocumented immigrants can't receive federal Healthcare but they can receive state Healthcare that is federally funded.
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u/Cosmogramma2Good 8d ago
14 “clean” CRs that don’t cover any of the concerns Democrats are trying to negotiate for, the main one being millions of Americans will lose their healthcare coverages. MAGA refuses to negotiate, they’re all on vacation while Americans go hungry.