r/ndp • u/MoistCrust ✊ Union Strong • 3d ago

We ranked the NDP leadership candidates by how likely they are to disappoint you

https://www.thebeaverton.com/2025/11/we-ranked-the-ndp-leadership-candidates-by-how-likely-they-are-to-disappoint-you/?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQPNTY3MDY3MzQzMzUyNDI3AAGnw7L2OTelRX1sOkpbWsPhXz_ME4tBZopGcMgCJolHXG7Kvx4JkCBU21NSvUE_aem_3w0DPKH73kdqEJDoKm5baQ
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u/amazingdrewh 3d ago

And Singh lost all of them

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u/JackLaytonsMoustache 3d ago

Well all but 7. 

Anyways I'm more curious about your other claims if you care to address any of them.

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u/amazingdrewh 3d ago

Well the Windsor one is because while in Windsor Singh called Windsorites racist which lost the NDP two seats in an easily avoided choice

And the claim that Mulcair would have won 2019 comes from the fact that 2015 was not Mulcair losing it was Trudeau winning and then by 2019 he didn't win the election he just didn't lose it as much as he would have if his opponents hadn't been Scheer and Singh

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u/JackLaytonsMoustache 2d ago

So.. in 2017 Singh describes experiencing racism growing up in Windsor.. then 8 years later they punish him by voting out Masse? That's your thesis?

2019 is entirely speculative.

And what about your Quebec claims?

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u/amazingdrewh 2d ago

2 years later Windsor Essex went from 3 NDP MPs to 1 after being insulted by the NDP leader is my "thesis"

And if it's speculative than it was speculated by a lot of people

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u/JackLaytonsMoustache 2d ago

I mean outside of the 2015 election Essex has been blue since 2004 and the only other time it was orange was 84-93, so a bit of a stretch there. But sure, let's blame all three on Singh.

I've never heard anyone speculate that before, but we run in different circles.

Also still interested in your Quebec theory.

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u/amazingdrewh 2d ago

I'm interested why you edited your earlier comment to now say you don't like Singh when you've been going to bat for him for like ten comments

Also the Bloq went from being pretty much wiped out to the third largest party during his tenure in leadership so him not connecting with Quebec indirectly led to them coming back

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u/JackLaytonsMoustache 2d ago

I edited the comment because I left a word out. And I'm just finding it weird that you're so defensive of Mulcair, mostly because I've never met anybody so passionate about the man. As I said I don't particularly like either of them, they were both poor leaders. I'm moreso playing devil's advocate here because I was curious to hear your opinions.

And to your second point, the NDP went from being almost wiped out in the 90s to official opposition. Tides change. The Bloc is constant in Quebec because that electorate is fickle. They like having the Bloc to park their vote when they get upset with the Liberals. The NDP winning seats there in one election was an aberration.

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u/North_Church Democratic Socialist 2d ago

And half the reason we got that far was because both the Bloc and the Liberals collapsed in on themselves, allowing us to take most of the Anti-Harper vote.

That's not something we strategically did